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Robert99

Dec 9, 2012, 11:29 AM
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"Not a chance in hell that they could see much detail IMO."

I agree, unless they had Binoculars which are common on ships?
I think it's possible they cut Morris out of the equation. never
trust a criminal Cool

Morris had a IQ of 133 (Very superior range 99%ile)
the anglins had very little schooling but stuck together.
2 against one......

Go to Wikipedia and search "Frank Morris (Prisoner)".

The escape was on June 11, 1962 and an FBI report is quoted as saying that "on July 17, 1962 a Norwegian ship spotted a body floating in the bay 20 miles northwest of the Golden Gate Bridge. Although they did not retrieve the body and did not report the sighting until October, they told the police the body was dressed in clothes that prisoners on Alcatraz used, and that the body resembled Frank Morris."

See the above article for more details about subsequent events.

Also, the above quote is apparently not the one I originally saw with the same general information.

Robert99


mrshutter45

Dec 9, 2012, 12:01 PM
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"Not a chance in hell that they could see much detail IMO."

I agree, unless they had Binoculars which are common on ships?
I think it's possible they cut Morris out of the equation. never
trust a criminal Cool

Morris had a IQ of 133 (Very superior range 99%ile)
the anglins had very little schooling but stuck together.
2 against one......

Go to Wikipedia and search "Frank Morris (Prisoner)".

The escape was on June 11, 1962 and an FBI report is quoted as saying that "on July 17, 1962 a Norwegian ship spotted a body floating in the bay 20 miles northwest of the Golden Gate Bridge. Although they did not retrieve the body and did not report the sighting until October, they told the police the body was dressed in clothes that prisoners on Alcatraz used, and that the body resembled Frank Morris."

See the above article for more details about subsequent events.

Also, the above quote is apparently not the one I originally saw with the same general information.

Robert99

I have seen the wiki comment, just threw me off when you said one of the anglins, I think it's possible they did Morris in before they left the Island, one body seen and then pieces found in the opposite direction in the area of Angel Island. based on the Marshal's evidence I believe there could be a possibility some of them could have made it, not saying they did,but, I guess it's no different than Cooper....based on these new findings. 30 days in the water, could you identify facial features?


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RobertMBlevins

Dec 9, 2012, 12:13 PM
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Mr Shutter says in part:

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'if they failed to disclose two key pieces of evidence in the (Anglin/Morris Alcatraz) escape, what is in the hijacking files? are they more comfortable allowing these cases to remain unsolved vs finding out what really happened?

History was also changed in the battle of Little Bighorn, for years we read the Government version of what happened and not the Indian version until the field caught on fire reveling the battleground exposing shell casings and leaning more towards the truth of the Indians version!!!

someone is not being 100% honest here IMO...'

I thought it was the research they did at the battlefield, using metal detectors, etc that finally showed what happened at Big Horn. (Quick version: that some soldiers stayed with Custer, while others broke up individually, or in small groups, and tried to flee)

As far as Cooper, if the FBI is withholding a couple of bits of info, they really have no choice but to do so. Without a control factor to weed out the false claims, their job would be worse than it is now.

On Custer: This recent article by Smithsonian dot com is very good, very comprehensive, and is more of an Indian-side account. Eight page article and worth the read if you are BigHorn enthusiast.


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377  (F 666)

Dec 9, 2012, 12:14 PM
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The escape was on June 11, 1962 and an FBI report is quoted as saying that "on July 17, 1962 a Norwegian ship spotted a body floating in the bay 20 miles northwest of the Golden Gate Bridge. Although they did not retrieve the body and did not report the sighting until October, they told the police the body was dressed in clothes that prisoners on Alcatraz used, and that the body resembled Frank Morris."

Something's not right about this alleged incident. There is no bay traversed by ships that lies 20 miles NW of the GG Bridge. Saw a body in June and reported it in October???

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... they told the police the body was dressed in clothes that prisoners on Alcatraz used, and that the body resembled Frank Morris."

If they were 20 miles NW of the GG they were beyond the dredged ship channel and would have been going full speed which was at least 16 knots and likely much faster. No way, even with binocs, could you see enough detail to say the body resembled someone. If they saw a body, especially one in obvious prison garb, they would surely have reported it right away.

Drakes Bay is roughly NW of SF but in decades of commercial fishing I've never seen a ship in it. It's shallow and out of the transit routes for ships rounding Pt Reyes. See chart image attached. Shipping lanes are marked in purple.

377


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mrshutter45

Dec 9, 2012, 12:21 PM
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this is interesting: http://books.google.com/...20bridge&f=false


mrshutter45

Dec 9, 2012, 12:49 PM
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This conflict really escalated almost 30 years ago. In August 1983, a prairie fire swept over the entire battlefield, burning away 100 years of ungrazed grass and undergrowth. It revealed a treasure trove of artifacts and remains laying exposed on the charred surface. The National Park Service seized the opportunity to pursue archaeological examinations of the Little Bighorn. There were four of them - 1983, 1984, 1989 and 1994. They produced some results and theories which completely revised the traditional view of the battle.

even though the truth was coming out about the battle, the fire exposed the truth.

picture is of Custers scouts in 1903 revisiting


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RobertMBlevins

Dec 9, 2012, 1:36 PM
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That's a very good picture considering it was taken so long ago. I tried some enhancements on a couple of the individuals in the picture.


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377  (F 666)

Dec 9, 2012, 1:44 PM
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A ship in 1962 not having a radio? Baloney. Ships in 1962 all had radios and several types. When entering SF they would almost certainly have required a Bar Pilot. The Bar Pilot pickups outside the SF entrance are arranged by radio. It's illegal for ships to enter SF without one unless the Master is a certified SF Bar Pilot and I've never ever heard of a foreign ship captain having this ticket.

This ship story is so full of holes that I wonder if there is any useful info in it.

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mrshutter45

Dec 9, 2012, 2:22 PM
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it is a good photo, names are as follows: from left, Whiteman Runs Him, Hairy Moccasin, Curley and Goes Ahead. Curley
was said to have witnessed the battle.

377, I agree with your statements, seems that case also has it's fair share of speculation Cool


skyjack71

Dec 9, 2012, 6:13 PM
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I did check into that at one time.
Zona would have been 18-20 best I can guess. 9 yrs old last time Duane saw her.

The only time the name Zona was mentioned with an associate of Duane was with Ed.

1962 is when Duane was living as John Collins.

Ed Huran however it was spelled knew Duane from the past, but realized about 5 minutes into the conversation I knew nothing about Duane's back ground and just told me Duane would tell me when he was ready - but not to ever mention our conversation.

This is a pic of Ed taken in 1983 or 84. Blue eyes and scared face.
I never saw him with-out a shirt and jacket.

The only individual with whom the name Zona ever entered the conversation. Ed just told me Duane would tell me when he was ready.

I am going to attach 2 photos.
One of Ed and one of Anglin

There is a similarity in the chin and mouth - not many people hold their mouths like that. The ahape of the head is right.

The eyes are NOT. When I met Ed in 1978 he was sick and we had goneover so Duane could go get Ed's medication from the drug store. The last time I saw Ed was in Atlanta around 1984 - when I took the picture.
I commented I didn't remember his eyes being that blue. Perhaps he was wearing colored contacts.

The eyebrow eyelid area is different - but, someone escaping from Alcatraz would go to Mexico or S.A and get an eye job. My eyelids were done yrs go because of the droop and the surgeon wanted to raise the eyebrows - I just wanted the droop out - not to change my appearance.Smile Now I wish I had let him do it!

I explored this YEARS ago and was quickly dissed, so I did NOT go there again. I am just revisiting the things I have explored and NO ONE seemed interested. The fact that Duane aske Ed about Zona and now to find out one of these guys had Zona tattooed and Duane fathered a child named Zona.

Pure co-incidence I am sure, but I never actually look at the pics of Anglin that closely. I found a lot of co-incidences in all of this and so I have re-visited it just for the sake of BORING you guys.

Attached: Photo of Ed
Photo of Anglin
I no longer have the capability of putting them side by side in one photo so if someone would do that I will appreciate it.


The shape of the face and the chin and mouth and head are dead on, but that is all. What I found interesting is they escaped in 1962 and Duane was living as John in 1962. This picture has me thinking a lot about those yrs from 1962 to 1966 and why Duane spent 16 months in prison as John. I always thought that ODD!.

The only picture I have of Tommy is in my head. I even searched the local papers after he disappeared (I assume died, but never found an OBIT). My memory is good but not good enough to remember a face from the past and compare it to a picture from the past. He sure was shook-up about Duane making the confession and he is the one who threatened me. He knew Duane only as John until 1980. Tommy's complexion was medium to dark and he had dark hair - well, with a little help or touch up.


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mrshutter45

Dec 9, 2012, 6:34 PM
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your not trying to say these two are one in the same? whats next, are you going to solve the Cooper case and Alcatraz along with JFK????????????

come on Jo glide back down to earth Cool

John and Clarence Anglin would be 47 & 48 in 1978
1984 they would be in there early 50's.


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Guru312  (C 6814)

Dec 9, 2012, 6:59 PM
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I can not vouch for the authenticity of this but there is lots of good reading... FBI, Cook and DB Cooper

http://cryptome.org/.../retired-seals-2.htm


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mrshutter45

Dec 9, 2012, 7:09 PM
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I can not vouch for the authenticity of this but there is lots of good reading... FBI, Cook and DB Cooper

http://cryptome.org/.../retired-seals-2.htm

should be simple to verify, is that really cooks email, I don't know?


skyjack71

Dec 9, 2012, 7:38 PM
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your not trying to say these two are one in the same? whats next, are you going to solve the Cooper case and Alcatraz along with JFK????????????

come on Jo glide back down to earth Cool

John and Clarence Anglin would be 47 & 48 in 1978
1984 they would be in there early 50's.

Referencing the brothers - did YOU even READ what the FRIGGIN HELL I wrote. I mention that Anglin was only 31 and Zona - Duane's daughter was maybe 18 to 20 - so NOW do YOU GET IT!

Familia features. NO ED could NOT have been one of the ANGLINS - WHAT I WAS TRYING TO TALK ABOUT WAS ALL OF THE ZONA CONNECTIONS.

I also just went back and re-read the post and it says NOTHING about Ed being one of the ESCAPED Anglins. I was pointing out the FAMILIA features and the connection to the name ZONA in three men.

EXCUSE ME FOR LIVING - I CAN'T SAY ONE WORD THAT YOU DO NOT TAKE OUT OF CONTEXT.

IF you cannot follow my ramblings then DO not make any replies or snide remarks - if you do NOT understand them - pm me and I will explain it in DETAIL. I FOUND NOTHING in the post indicating that Ed was one of the ESCAPED ANGLINS - but the connections to ZONA.

Just tracking Zona! The connection of ED to Zona and I have even stated perhaps co-incidence - but ZONA was NOT a common name and I HAVE another reason there is no reason to inform the LIKES of what this reason is - !!!


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RobertMBlevins

Dec 9, 2012, 7:44 PM
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I can not vouch for the authenticity of this but there is lots of good reading... FBI, Cook and DB Cooper

http://cryptome.org/.../retired-seals-2.htm

should be simple to verify, is that really cooks email, I don't know?

Yes it is. Tried mailing him at that hotmail once. No answer. No surprise. Smile

Side Note: What I call the Christiansen Report is ready to go. Fourteen pages of text, sixteen 8.5x11 photos (with explanatory text) and copies of certain documents. Goes out to Agent Eng at the Seattle FBI tomorrow morning, registered mail, etc. *The information in the report has been updated to the most current we have on Christiansen, the witnesses, and their testimony.*

*This Really Means: 'Any screw ups that ended up in the book were not used, just our latest information, all of which was verified for accuracy.' Smile


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mrshutter45

Dec 9, 2012, 7:48 PM
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"I am going to attach 2 photos.
One of Ed and one of Anglin

There is a similarity in the chin and mouth - not many people hold their mouths like that. The ahape of the head is right. "

what exactly is your intention to this description?

"IF you cannot follow my ramblings" then I must follow everyone's ramblings? rambling is not truth Jo!!

where is the mention of "I mention that Anglin was only 31"??


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mrshutter45

Dec 9, 2012, 7:53 PM
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well, good for you, I guess, I still don't see the connection, but, one must try I guess. all I can say is this Cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-ZpHr5l0U0


skyjack71

Dec 9, 2012, 8:42 PM
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"I am going to attach 2 photos.
One of Ed and one of Anglin

There is a similarity in the chin and mouth - not many people hold their mouths like that. The ahape of the head is right. "

what exactly is your intention to this description?

"IF you cannot follow my ramblings" then I must follow everyone's ramblings? rambling is not truth Jo!!

where is the mention of "I mention that Anglin was only 31"?? ok, sorry I see that now, but explain the rest?


I am only 10 yrs older than this Anglin brother! Therefore I am able to associate the age brackets. IT was NOT uncommon in "the day" of a 31 yr old to be married to a 16 yr old, and Zona was born sometime between 1943 and 1946...which was age appropriate for some one born in 1931 in those days.
Today if a 24 yr old dates a 18 yr old and have sex - look out! She is considered a juvenile and all she has to do is scream RAPE and the poor guy is labeled for the rest of his life. Todays 16 yr olds are very immature but also very promiscuous.

Most 24 yr olds men are NOT interest in 24 yr old females. Like the typical male thing - they like their women younger, but with the laws today - the 24 yr serving his country - can't date an age appropriate young lady

Duane had friends much younger than he was and such was with a man he introduced me to out of CO and in N.Orleans. His friend in GA was much younger.

I was playing with ways the same Zona could be connected with all 3 of them - only because Duane aske ED how Zona was doing. I did NOT at the time Duane's daughter was named ZONA. We had only been married for a few weeks when I met Ed in Denver.

NOW do you GET IT. Also ED was younger than Duane, but he was in poor health - I don't know how much younger. I was a 17 yrs younger than Duane and many of his friends were MY age.


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RobertMBlevins

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well, good for you, I guess, I still don't see the connection, but, one must try I guess. all I can say is this Cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-ZpHr5l0U0

Thank you for the vote of luck.

Robert's Self Check-in at the Reality Hotel: I know perfectly well the report and the docs/pictures can't prove Kenny was the hijacker. What I'm hoping is that the Seattle FBI will finally take a look at him and find out how in the holy hell Christiansen managed to do the things he did between April and October of 1972. If they actually do an investigation and question the witnesses, they will find out one of two things:

1) Kenny got that $21,000 in cash he spent in that time period from the proceeds of the hijacking. That he spent this money can be proven beyond a doubt.

2) The money came from somewhere else, and he wasn't the hijacker.


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mrshutter45

Dec 9, 2012, 8:47 PM
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"I am going to attach 2 photos.
One of Ed and one of Anglin

There is a similarity in the chin and mouth - not many people hold their mouths like that. The ahape of the head is right. "

what exactly is your intention to this description?

"IF you cannot follow my ramblings" then I must follow everyone's ramblings? rambling is not truth Jo!!

where is the mention of "I mention that Anglin was only 31"?? ok, sorry I see that now, but explain the rest?


I am only 10 yrs older than this Anglin brother! Therefore I am able to associate the age brackets. IT was NOT uncommon in "the day" of a 31 yr old to be married to even a 16 yr old, and Zona was born sometime between 1943 and 1946...which was age appropriate for some one born in 1931 in those days.
Today if a 24 yr old dates a 18 yr old and they have sex - look out! All she has she is considered a juvenile is scream RAPE and the poor guy is labeld for the rest of his life.

Most 24 yr old are NOT interest in 24 yr old female. Like the typical male thing - they like their women younger, but with the laws today - the 24 yr serving his country - can't date an age appropriate young lady

Duane had friends much younger than he was and such was with a man he introduced me to out of CO and in N.Orleans. His friend in GA was much younger.

I was playing with ways the same Zona could be connected with all 3 of them - only because Duane aske ED how Zona was doing. I did NOT at the time know his daughters name was ZONA.

NOW do you GET IT. Also ED was younger than Duane, but he was in poor health - I don't know how much younger. I was a 17 yrs younger than Duane and many of his friends were MY age.

I retracted the reply of you stating 31, I'm still confused on how you assume everything revolves around Duane? please advise as to where you stated 31?.... Jo stated ".I mention that Anglin was only 31"??


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skyjack71

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"I am going to attach 2 photos.
One of Ed and one of Anglin

There is a similarity in the chin and mouth - not many people hold their mouths like that. The ahape of the head is right. "

what exactly is your intention to this description?

"IF you cannot follow my ramblings" then I must follow everyone's ramblings? rambling is not truth Jo!!

where is the mention of "I mention that Anglin was only 31"?? ok, sorry I see that now, but explain the rest?


I am only 10 yrs older than this Anglin brother! Therefore I am able to associate the age brackets. IT was NOT uncommon in "the day" of a 31 yr old to be married to even a 16 yr old, and Zona was born sometime between 1943 and 1946...which was age appropriate for some one born in 1931 in those days.
Today if a 24 yr old dates a 18 yr old and they have sex - look out! All she has she is considered a juvenile is scream RAPE and the poor guy is labeld for the rest of his life.

Most 24 yr old are NOT interest in 24 yr old female. Like the typical male thing - they like their women younger, but with the laws today - the 24 yr serving his country - can't date an age appropriate young lady

Duane had friends much younger than he was and such was with a man he introduced me to out of CO and in N.Orleans. His friend in GA was much younger.

I was playing with ways the same Zona could be connected with all 3 of them - only because Duane aske ED how Zona was doing. I did NOT at the time know his daughters name was ZONA.

NOW do you GET IT. Also ED was younger than Duane, but he was in poor health - I don't know how much younger. I was a 17 yrs younger than Duane and many of his friends were MY age.

I retracted the reply of you stating 31, I'm still confused on how you assume everything revolves around Duane? please advise as to where you stated 31?.... Jo stated ".I mention that Anglin was only 31"??


Last night I was having a lot of connection problems and I would make a post and it would NOT post. I would go back and my post would not be there - but, perhaps I should have CLARIFIED IT with that post.

I did state in a post that Anglin was only 31 - if it posted I know not and I stopped going back to check them. I assure you I was quiet well aware of the statment in the thread that he was 31 yrs of age.


mrshutter45

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nothing personal, just seems far fetched to think you hold the key to this crazy case we call DB Cooper, many claim Marla is nuts, Jo is nuts, cook is nuts etc etc.......Cool


mrshutter45

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Jo, your statement reads as follows: Referencing the brothers - did YOU even READ what the FRIGGIN HELL I wrote. I mention that Anglin was only 31 and Zona - Duane's daughter was maybe 18 to 20 - so NOW do YOU GET IT!

this was like an hour ago???
please advise? if I'm wrong, please show the post?

medication and connection problems could lead us to a Conspiracy theory wouldn't you say???


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skyjack71

Dec 9, 2012, 9:19 PM
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nothing personal, just seems far fetched to think you hold the key to this crazy case we call DB Cooper, many claim Marla is nuts, Jo is nuts, cook is nuts etc etc.......Cool

You think I don't look at how the world looks at this - especially people who DO not know me?

Oh! That poor woman is delusional or crazy! She is a liar and fantasy story teller.

I will tell you WHY I keep on - because the things I tell are real and they are NOT made up. NO I am NOT delusional and I am NOT a liar. I have offered to prove this - but, the FBI does NOT want that to happen. Now it has been so many yrs it won't happen because the test would not be valid at this stage.

I created a problem for the FBI - they want to bury this, but NO one counted on my MEMORY being as vivid as it is. I spent over 5k to go to WA in 2010 (money I could ill afford to spend), but I had to make that trip hoping that I could WALK away, but the trip ONLY ENFORCED everything I had told and tried to tell the FBI and others.

Instead of coming home and being able to WALK away - it didn't happen. I learned that JT had DELIVERATELY lied to me about many important facts - things that put my life in TURMOIL for several yrs. From 1996 until I came back from the first trip (short and paid for by a TV company in 2001) and learned on the last day after the crew left that JT had deliberately mislea\d me and that alone left a huge QUESTION MARK!

He had NO idea I was continueing my search and he thought I had just gone away until he found out I was posting on this thread - THEN here he comes again with his horrid attacks on me - VERBAL attacks and threats which actually put me in the ER twice.

WHY did he attack a person on the phone and on a thread? I will leave the answers to that - to your own research into this. I contacted him after the 2001 trip and told him what I thought of him and had NO further contact until the day he found me on this thread - he went right back into attack and destory mode.

NO HUMAN BEING would continue on as I have done -unless they knew what they had to say was real. If I was delusional or actually out of my mind, do you think my family and friends would not have had me committed by now. BECAUSE anyone who knows me knows the story I have told I could NOT possibly have made up - that I actually lived this.

They WISH I would let it go and I have tried - but, it is just not fair that the truth be buried forever.
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Hell the more I say the crazier the world thinks I am.


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mrshutter45

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Jo, nobody is calling you a liar! your perception of truth comes into question by claiming the smallest fact/clue revolving around Duane! he was a criminal period, known to lie, deceive, things Duane did is not as "out of the norm" as one would think when speaking about his past! perhaps you are just so "in the dark" you fail to see the light, I just don't know. I don't have anything against you, but, I just don't see any reason for the theories you claim! how can all the others be wrong just because Duane told you? believe it or not, you are in that category you suppress !!


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