Oct 21, 2012, 5:35 PM
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Re: [nigel99] Does your DZ try to guilt you if you have a cutaway?
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Sadly that is pretty true. But if people stand their ground and don't compromise, eventually a safer sport prevails. I accept that a single person trying to follow the rules is probably like a fart in a thunderstorm though.
Now you know how I was feeling the last couple of years...
Oct 21, 2012, 6:00 PM
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Re: [FlyingRhenquest] Does your DZ try to guilt you if you have a cutaway?
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I think this is the case at many DZs. I think there should be a clear written policy posted where everyone that rents gear can see it. I fail to see why a business owner would leave something so potentially expensive in a gray area. In my opinion though a lot of DZOs seem to have the "everything is cool and no big deal" attitude till the shit hits the fan.
My gear is insured, I don't know why a DZO wouldn't do the same.
That's what the "rental fee" should be for. By my calculations, I've spent $1125 in rental fees since I started skydiving in July. I haven't had to cut away so far, and I hope to make many more jumps before I do. Now you watch, on my next jump my canopy will explode or something and I'll need one...
Most of the time when they do have cutaways they recover the canopy. But you know, sometimes shit happens and they cant find it.
If they're getting bent out of shape due to a lost canopy, they're probably not charging enough in rental fees. They're running a business, they should be charging enough to cover expenses and grow their business. Having people get injured or killed because they were afraid to chop when they should have is not good for business.
Exactly. The DZO is responsible for normal, anticipated use of the rig; it's legally considered the "cost of doing business" even if it's in the waiver that the renter is responsible for loss or damage. The DZO would lose the case in small claims court, so make him go through the trouble of suing if he's being that big of a knob about it.
On the other hand, when a jumper who just cutaway lands and starts looking for high-fives while he's jumping up and down with glee because he just had a cutaway then he isn't going to get a lot of sympathy from the DZO while the canopy flies away. It's probably a good idea to show some immediate concern for recovering the canopy and minimizing the DZO's liability.
I've seen plenty of people renting gear have to chop at my DZ. Never once has anyone been upset about it. Everything I've ever heard was...if it's unsafe, and you don't think you can fly it or land it, chop it. Sure, there is always a chance a DZ is going to lose and have to replace a main...but aren't there other inherent risks in this sport?
Oct 21, 2012, 7:01 PM
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Re: [sacex250] Does your DZ try to guilt you if you have a cutaway?
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Exactly. The DZO is responsible for normal, anticipated use of the rig; it's legally considered the "cost of doing business" even if it's in the waiver that the renter is responsible for loss or damage. The DZO would lose the case in small claims court, so make him go through the trouble of suing if he's being that big of a knob about it.
You must be very popular at your DZ?? However, I like to think that "Skydivers" are better than that! When one of us is struggling, the rest of us help!
I've been around this sport for probly longer than you've been alive. I can walk onto any DZ in the world, and I'm always welcomed with open arms!!!! This is a community we're talking about. You lose someone's gear, you take responsibility and Man-Up.
These (DZO in this case) are our friends and brothers in sport. Respect and friendship are the only requirement for membership into this community.
(This post was edited by skyjumpenfool on Oct 21, 2012, 7:02 PM)