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RevvyAiny  (B 37576)

Oct 11, 2012, 11:10 AM
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I am a rookie skydiver. Might not be a skydiver at all if it weren't for the time Rich has taken to provide instruction and insight and support. For all the reasons already expressed by those who know him much better than I, Rich Winstock has my vote.


HawkDriver108  (A License)

Oct 11, 2012, 11:33 AM
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Rich has my vote!


Skwrl  (C 36419)

Oct 12, 2012, 9:47 AM
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In reply to:
The point is, the survey was sent to people whose involvement in the sport is total.

Ummm, well, I dunno about that.

I received a survey, and (as you know), I have a (non-skydiving) day job. I don't even instruct with respect to wingsuiting or any other skydiving activity. I take pictures of wingsuiters.


flyboy6554  (D 12846)

Oct 12, 2012, 7:26 PM
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matthewcline  (D 21585)

Oct 12, 2012, 7:41 PM
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In reply to:
Please take a moment and click

What?

Matt


stratostar  (Student)

Oct 12, 2012, 7:57 PM
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The link... (in Rich's post top page) Tongue

http://youtu.be/9N9Hz7z9hY8


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matthewcline  (D 21585)

Oct 12, 2012, 8:15 PM
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In reply to:
The link... (in Rich's post top page) Tongue

http://youtu.be/9N9Hz7z9hY8

Oh well, he cooda done did what you just done did!Wink

Matt


stratostar  (Student)

Oct 12, 2012, 8:24 PM
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it's a learning curve thing....Wink

Just let me add this too....

Hey Rich, thanks for returning my call & email today in such a timely manner and on a Friday too at that. Major thanks for your guidance on my issue of concern, that was very helpful! Smile


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Pattybeeny  (D 30938)

Oct 15, 2012, 1:27 PM
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Had an opportunity to speak with many jumpers this past weekend at my "old" drop zone from several years ago - your name came up Rich. It's amazing how many people you have helped over the years how many people respect you and value your opinion. No one had a bad thing to say about you and all verified that you ALWAYS made yourself available and accessible. That is definitely someone who puts the "jumpers" first and definitely someone we need on the board.....kudos - and you definitely have my vote!


Para5-0  (D 19054)

Oct 18, 2012, 10:52 AM
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Hello All,

I just wanted to say thank you for the kind words and the support. The first wave of ballots are on the way. It is important we vote, so bother your skydiving friends and let them know it does matter.

I want to wish everyone good luck and say, all candidates bring one similarity to the table; their commitment and love of skydiving.

Take a moment and read everyones biography, maybe even take the next step and contact them or stop by their website.

http://www.richwinstock.com

Regards,
Rich Winstock
USPA National Director


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lurch  (D 27583)

Oct 18, 2012, 10:54 AM
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No, but come on, man, -I'd- call your involvement in the sport total, myself... you may not instruct, but you were the brains and the action behind getting our local instruction scene going again this year. I wasn't inclined to try again, if not for you and your initiative there'd BE no Northeast Bird School.

And I hold a day job, too, doesn't mean much, most serious birds I know still do.

Frankly I'm still not thrilled about my own perception of the necessity of a rating. I argued against it for quite some time and still have many reservations. I've already talked to Rich myself about some of the proposed conditions- in particular the minimum WSI/E FFC numbers initially proposed make becoming a WSI/E virtually impossible for all birds except those very few who might be able to rack up a couple hundred FFCs inside of a decade, plus theres some things I'd like to see more thoroughly defined such as what exactly constitutes a wingsuit instructional jump because taken literally with just FFCs qualifying as instruction, our school'd be wiped out in one season. We didn't exactly get a whole lot of new birds this year, most of my instructional work was advanced coaching.

I think maybe Andreea did enough FFCs to maintain currency under the proposed set of rules, but I'm pretty sure Rick and I did not, despite having spent much of this season doing advanced coaching. Rich Winstock tells me this sort of teaching does and will qualify toward currency, but I'd like to see it laid out and defined specifically. What we're doing is different than other forms of instruction and requires different rules. I think if there is to be a rating it'll need a bit of tweaking before its ready for prime time, but the people pushing the rating are open to input and revision, and rather than attacking the rating effort I think we ought to speak up and say how it ought to be defined. If there is to be one, well, its -OUR- rating, lets be the ones who actually create it. Nobody is proposing to suddenly impose it on us, so far as I know there's no deadline, no "ready or not this is how its gonna be from now on"... Last I heard, the rating effort is still actively soliciting input and suggestions from the community. Nothing is set in stone yet, so well-informed birds can speak up and make a real difference.

I started off against it, but I figured I'd be better off participating instead of attacking.

I still don't like it. But I can't ignore the fact that people are no longer bringing the kind of self-chosen meticulous care in educating ourselves that we used to take for granted. The fact is, the gear has changed and the picture has changed with it and at the same time, we get a swarm of new skygods who want to fly an X3 inside their first 100 flights with little to no clue what the suit can do with them if they're careless, and what I'm seeing is a perfect storm of impending disaster with absolutely no mechanism in place to arrest it or even affect it at all besides peer pressure. If I'd been a little more aware of the potential myself, Steve might still be alive. It causes me to really think twice about whats has to be done, what ought to be done, and why.

-B


Douggarr  (D 2791)

Oct 18, 2012, 12:34 PM
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I second Patty's emotion. Have been talking up Winnie for re-election for weeks now. So if you want a voice for safe skydiving and progressive training, fun jumping, etc., he's your man.


Ron

Oct 19, 2012, 11:35 AM
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Doc, it -was- sent to the players in the community. The ones actually active in instruction, or the ones actively involved in the promotion growth and development in the sport.

Ah yes, the ones that would profit from it.

Rich, you lost my vote over this. Shame, you had me till this.

Not that I think the USPA actually gives a shit what the average member wants.


matthewcline  (D 21585)

Oct 20, 2012, 8:43 AM
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Doc, it -was- sent to the players in the community. The ones actually active in instruction, or the ones actively involved in the promotion growth and development in the sport.

Ah yes, the ones that would profit from it.

Rich, you lost my vote over this. Shame, you had me till this.

Not that I think the USPA actually gives a shit what the average member wants.

They won't profit any more than they currently do, they would now just happen to have a standardized endorsement, if the program is adopted.

Your distaste for good safety measures and reasonable progress shouldn't lose Rich a well earned vote, makes you sound like a a single issue voter, and I know you're smarter than that.

Matt


Ron

Oct 20, 2012, 2:09 PM
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They won't profit any more than they currently do,

Sure they will, they will be the only 8 that can certify an instructor.

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Your distaste for good safety measures and reasonable progress

Please don't feed me a line of crap about my level of safety concern. I was one of the first people begging the USPA to do something about canopy deaths.

You seem to think the only way to save people is by creating another BS department. That is factually incorrect.

You seem to think I think nothing should be done. Well you are wrong there as well.

To put it simply, I have explained my thoughts.... You either didn't bother to read them or forgot them. But supporting an expansion that is not needed and not even the wing suit community can agree on is nowhere fucking close to not being concerned about safety issues.


firstime  (B 28972)

Oct 21, 2012, 5:48 PM
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well said Patty, He has my vote


RevvyAiny  (B 37576)

Oct 26, 2012, 8:54 AM
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Great piece, Rich!

I appreciate that you are so very available to answer questions and offer guidance. You have my full support!


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Douggarr  (D 2791)

Oct 26, 2012, 11:17 AM
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I can't give a high enough endorsement to Winnie. When I made my comeback three years ago, he made sure I knew what was going on and made sure I was aware of safety standards at busy DZs such as Skydive Long Island. Have since been to a dozen different DZs in seven or eight states and I can say without reservation, he's probably the best national director I've seen in a long time. He understands all the disciplines and favors none. He's into training and developing new skydivers. I'll follow him out the door of any plane, any time, even on a beach demo (which I've done). If you have the opportunity to meet with him or skydive with him, do it. If not, just vote for him anyway.


Pattybeeny  (D 30938)

Oct 26, 2012, 12:10 PM
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Indeed. I have traveled to about 10-12 different DZ's during my skydiving career and honestly have only found 2 that stood out in terms of "welcoming newcomers", "ensuring you were well versed in the area and aware of all of the safety issues" and most importantly - "that you were introduced to other jumpers and placed into safe hands". Rich was one of them -- as I mentioned earlier -- came over (without being prompted) - talked about my gear, ways I could do things differently (in a very positive manner) and then basically nurtured me into being a better jumper. If not for him I'd probably still be flopping in the air with no sense of direction or guidance to better myself.

Did I have fun along the way? Sure I did. But I was having fun falling through the air - not flying in the sky. Rich taught me how to "fly" and in the safest way possible.

I've watching him keep an eye on everyone -- and always stepped in when something was not safe. Of course in this position, you can't please everyone -- no one likes the guy who sets rules and has to say no to something. Sometimes you need someone to step in and implement safety. No one wants to be that guy.....but Rich does it in a non-mean way.

Same with the wingsuit debate. I'm not a wingsuiter - never had an interest (although I love to watch you fly) - but from my understanding -- as mentioned above - there is no set in stone rules - just a fact that there must be "some" rules in place to make it safe and if that entails having someone certified to ensure that people are adequately trained and versed to fly a wingsuit - then why would anyone try and stop that??? THAT sounds more dangerous to me -- trying to stop it. I've watched 2 friends almost die in wingsuits - both had zero training -- just borrowed a friends suit - tried it on and went for it....one got lucky 10 times then had a bad exit and almost killed himself and everyone on the plane.....why? because he was (pardon the pun) just winging it (Cool) But seriously -- no training at all. Another friend had a wicked malfunction on his first attempt at a wingsuuit and almost died....had no cypress - and spent way too long trying to correct the problem. 2 Broken Femurs later...... Not to say that accidents dont happen for any type of flying - but we get trained to fly by an instructor - who then signs us off AFF/AFP when they feel we are adequately trained and safe to fly and not kill ourselves.....why so much hatred for wanting the same for wingsuits? There are a LOT of restrictions and things to consider before donning a suit yet I see people borrowing other folks suits and just throwing them on without ANY training or guidance. Makes perfect sense to me to have some training in place. From my understanding - the floor is open for all involved to "develop" the training protocol and develop a method where people can be "qualified" to teach and then have a method in place to actually teach/guide folks to learn to wing suit. Not my beat really, not involved in it - but it makes valid sense to me.

Despite that - again, Rich is unfortunately in the hot seat for it and obviously cannot please everyone. There will be those "for it" and those "against it" and as Rich stated - his job is to represent THE MAJORITY and the majority rules - so if the majority voted in favor of it -- and he is to represent the majority, there will obviously be some that are not happy. That is just the name of the game unfortunately.

Wingsuits aside - Rich has never steered my wrong, and have never put anyone in harms way. He is a fun jumper, an instructor and someone who truly believes in the sport and wants to see everyone enjoy it as long as they possibly can in the safest manner.

He totally has my vote.....he's not a politician or someone trying to get votes in for their own benefit. That in itself should say something. His only reason for battling on our behalf is to keep the sport as safe as it can be. You can love him or hate him for that - but he's just doing his job and a damn good one at that.


Steve224

Oct 26, 2012, 12:46 PM
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You got my Vote Rich!!
Rich has been there for me since I started Skydiving and is always there for me (you) to help.

VOTE for RICH


ozzy13  (D 29344)

Oct 26, 2012, 1:32 PM
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Rich you have my vote you know that. I also will not be voting for anyone else. This will help you get one up on the others. I suggest everyone else to do the same. It's about time we have someone on the board that cares about skydivers instead of how it affects there dz or manufactures. Tho he is one of many on the board now it would be a great loss to lose him. I know Rich personally. So when I say he has skydivers and skydiving as a whole on his agenda. I wish you the best Rich. Good luck in the election.


NYKid  (C 99999)

Oct 26, 2012, 5:28 PM
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Rich Winstock for Pres

I like Ozzy's way of thinking I'm only voting for him too.


mc2

Oct 27, 2012, 8:49 AM
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As a new student this year one of the aspects I've most appreciated is the time and effort instructors/coaches devote to teaching students - in between work, family, jumping tandems all weekend, USPA board, Rich Winstock still had time to answer my questions, and help out with finding a new rig. Thanks for all the help, good luck! Vote for Rich!

-Michael C


Para5-0  (D 19054)

Nov 2, 2012, 9:29 AM
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Hello All,

It looks like the emails have gone out from USPA. It is easy to vote. Thank you all for your support and kind words. I appreciate it very much.

Regardless of the outcome my hat is off to all of the candidates running. Each of them brings a unique perspective to the BOD. I am sure we will be fine whatever the outcome.

I am still without power and on a generator for the last 6 days. To say I am in hell is an understatement. I have limited access to the internet so if I do not respond to something please give me some time to get back to you.

On a side note: I support Randy Shroeder for eastern region, my home region. Randy is invalueable to the S&T committee and the BOD as a whole.

Blue Sky's and Electricity,
Rich Winstock
USPA National Director


Para5-0  (D 19054)

Nov 2, 2012, 2:14 PM
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BlushUnlike so many running, I am taking a stand on this issue. My stance is based on 6 months of research. I am positive I am representing the majority on this issue. If the opinion poll comes back otherwise then I will fall in line with what the members I represent desire. Until then I will rely on the 300 plus personal contacts that have voiced a strong opinion for USPA to head in this direction. If this loses me support then so beit, it is my responsibilty as a national director to represent the majority.

I urge you to vote YES on the WS opinion poll. Keep in mind that only gives the S&T committee and WS sub committee a base line to move forward. Nothing will change for those out there right now. Only for new WS'ers and for those teaching that do not meet any USPA teaching criteria.



Someone once said "If we do not have standards, we are doomed to mediocrity."


I believe that anyone calling themselves “instructor” or “coach” in the wingsuiting world should be required to demonstrate ability to meet a standardized bar of performance equal to performance requirements of other instructional areas of skydiving.
I believe anyone using the title “Instructor/Examiner” should be required to meet the same performance standards as any other person carrying the rating of “Instructor/Examiner” in any skydiving instructional capacity.
I believe that standardized wingsuit instruction will grow/increase participation in wingsuiting around the world.
I believe standardized training will significantly reduce incidents including fatalities, tailstrikes, and off-landings.
I believe standardized wingsuit instruction is critical to the long-term outlook for wingsuiting on dropzones.
I believe standardized training reduces the ‘worry factor’ for DZO’s as relates to who has/hasn’t met an agreed-upon standard of training.
I believe the culture of wingsuiting is in need of a fundamental change; standardized training will resolve this change.


I believe that the disparities created by the 6 unique wingsuit training camps will be greatly minimized through standardized training administered by USPA. Further, I believe standardized training is required in order for the wingsuiting community to become a cohesive community, freeing resources at all levels and expanding the discipline.

I believe standardized training methods administered by USPA will relieve some concerns at the FAA and aircraft owner/operator insurance industry levels.

I believe Japan, Germany, Holland, France, South Africa, Great Britain, Australia, and other countries correctly address the complexities and rapid growth of wingsuiting and have implemented/mandated standardized training for First Flight Courses going beyond that which some manufacturers offer.

I believe that change in wingsuit culture begins with a standardized First Flight Course/program. I believe that a change in the culture will encourage others to want to fly a wingsuit.

I believe that standardized training has an impact on wingsuiting far beyond the First Flight Course.

I believe Robert Pecnik (inventor of modern wingsuiting) is correct in his written request to USPA to implement and administer standardized wingsuit training through a wingsuit instructor rating program.

I believe in standardized wingsuit instruction administered by USPA.

For more information/photos/FAQ’s: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y-Exdt_44nB2AgINM7MEWkZ-SytVM-HuyzK_HNRWtD0/edit#heading=h.y58a5ed19sc





Robert Pecnik letter to USPA: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BxhZWxju4_IlaHNhWkVHckhvQTQ





Proposed Proficiency Card: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxhZWxju4_IleEc2ZkhpNjR5eHM/edit



Proposed Evaluation Sheet: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxhZWxju4_IlZFA4MEJTaXh1REk


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