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MikeTJumps  (D 5957)

Aug 27, 2012, 1:08 AM
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For the record, here is what I have submitted to the USPA for my 2012 Election Biography.

"As the co-author of Parachuting, The Skydiver's Handbook (the leading introductory text for skydivers) and as an Instructor Examiner (non-current) in our sport, I have had the unique opportunity and privilege of working in our sport for over thirty years. I have also been a jump pilot for Cessna operations as well as co-pilot of Twin Otters and DC-3s. I continue to be heavily involved in BOD meetings (almost continuously since 1997) as an advisor to the Safety and Training Committee. I have had the opportunity to contribute to the shaping of our sport's doctrine and recommendations. I am also the Parachute Industry Associationĺs designated representative to the USPAĺs BOD. While my obligations to the Civil Air Patrol as a squadron commander in Houston, TX have precluded my ability to maintain current ratings, my love and support for our sport is unending. I also serve as an expert witness on legal cases to defend those who do right and admonish those who do wrong in our sport. I have defended the USPA, dropzones and instructors in various cases over the past twelve years. I hope to be able to be a voting member of the BOD by being elected by you. Thank you for your consideration."


stratostar  (Student)

Aug 27, 2012, 5:08 AM
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All fluff and no issues. I'm not interested in hearing all about your past inflammatory text removed by slotperfect, I want to know what your plan is moving forward if your elected.

Let's start here,

1. Pending airport access and PLA's issue
2. USPA funded Demo team
3. medicals for TI's other then Class 3.

And 4. With all your history and hanging around all the old BOD, many of whom have proven their best interest was in the "good old boy's" club loyalty then it was to the memberships as a whole, why should anyone believe your not a card carrying member who should have our vote?


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chuckakers  (D 10855)

Aug 27, 2012, 5:17 AM
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I'm not interested in hearing all about your past quoted inflammatory text removed by slotperfect, side.....

Tough room.


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chuckakers  (D 10855)

Aug 27, 2012, 5:18 AM
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What are you running for - Regional or National?


MikeTJumps  (D 5957)

Aug 27, 2012, 7:51 AM
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National and yes, lots of slander in here.


Premier slotperfect  (D 13014)
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Aug 27, 2012, 7:59 AM
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stratostar - please use some tact in your feedback.


davelepka  (D 21448)

Aug 27, 2012, 8:03 AM
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lots of slander in here.

I don't exactly see it, but you might look at it that way. The only 'statement' about you was that you used to hang out with BOD members, which may be incorrect. The rest were questions as to your intentions if elected.

In either case, I think it's a valid point that your history is only half of the story. It does demonstrate your experience and dedication to the sport, but it says nothing about your intentions if you should be elected.

Can you address issues 1 through 3 as lsited above? While you're at it, how about your position with regards to canopy control courses or canopy size/type regulation?


SEREJumper  (D 29555)

Aug 27, 2012, 8:19 AM
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Mike,

I hope you are not surprised by the reactions of some on here and I do not know you. But really, looking at your candidate statement, you have not been very active in the sport.

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While my obligations to the Civil Air Patrol as a squadron commander in Houston, TX have precluded my ability to maintain current ratings, my love and support for our sport is unending.

I was also involved in CAP, so I know how much time that involves. Personally, I think our BOD needs a more active representative. I still love CAP, its a great organization, but I'm keeping a distance since I know I wouldn't be able to balance the two activities and give them both the time and energy they deserve.


robinheid  (D 5533)

Aug 27, 2012, 9:25 AM
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National and yes, lots of slander in here.

Libel, Mike. Slander is verbal, libel is written.

And when you're running for public office, the legal threshold for either is much higher than for a private citizen, so you might want to just grin and bear it because, as another poster said, ain't nothing here that reaches the libel threshold.

On the other hand, I'm seeing a lot of stuff here that reminds me of the observation made by veteran jumper/innovator/BOD member Madden Works: "Skydivers not only eat their young but their old too."

Can't recall that we've ever met, but the fact that you go to all the BOD meetings for years on end, amplified by the fact the PIA makes you its BOD representative, plus your very current experience in the US GA environment via CAP, speaks volumes to me about not only your commitment to but your understanding of issues relevant to parachutists in this country.

Whether that makes you a good choice for the BOD is a different question, but it seems to me that a lot of the recent hoo-hah about you is a direct result of the adage that if you're not stepping on somebody's toes, you're not going anywhere.

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MikeTJumps  (D 5957)

Aug 27, 2012, 11:03 AM
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I strongly support all airport access issues. There is a lot of discussion about the proposed Parachute Landing Area issues and the time for putting in viewpoints to the FAA is rapidly approaching its termination. The proposal they have promoted is very restrictive to many existing operations and needs to be adjusted with common sense.

As to funding a Demo Team, I think their impetus is to put a really professional team in the mix for airshows which unfortunately did have quite a few mishaps these past few years with some injuries to both skydivers and spectators. I'm a bit wishy-washy on this but I can see their viewpoint.

Medicals for Tandem Instructors, I think they should be required. Unfortunately, with a past (unfortunate) record and/or multiple DWIs, a person may not be eligible for an FAA medical certificate. Several possibilities were brought to the table but none of them passed muster with the existing BOD members. This is one of those things that the FAA may be involved in as tandem incidents continue to increase.

My hope is to be able to represent the common everyday jumper and rating holder, not the team jumper or the DZ owner. I want to bring some sense to the discussions as I have tried to do these past many years.


MikeTJumps  (D 5957)

Aug 27, 2012, 11:07 AM
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I stand corrected!

I look forward to the day we do meet and make a jump together. I will get back into jumping next year as I will be losing my permanent job sometime in the summer due to the company that I currently work for moving from the Houston, TX area to Phoenix, AZ. I'll have some fun time then!


chuckakers  (D 10855)

Aug 27, 2012, 11:59 AM
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As to funding a Demo Team, I think their impetus is to put a really professional team in the mix for airshows which unfortunately did have quite a few mishaps these past few years with some injuries to both skydivers and spectators. I'm a bit wishy-washy on this but I can see their viewpoint.

I'm calling BS on this one, MT.

USPA hasn't made any public statements that I know of saying the motive behind the demo team had anything to do with mishaps on the part of other teams, and if that was a motive that's bogus too. The addition of a USPA "professional" team would do nothing to make other teams safer or reduce "mishaps", unless the logic is that every demo the USPA team does is a demo that another team won't botch. If that's the case, then this team was indeed intended to compete with existing teams, and USPA insisted that was not the case. In fact, they even tried to tell us that the team wouldn't even bid on jumps currently being done by other teams.

Are you saying that was a motive and USPA just hasn't publicly said so? Are you assuming it was? Do you have information that wasn't released to the general membership?

IMO, the USPA demo team is a perfect example of the head shed going off in directions that it was never intended to go.

Since you are running for the board, why don't you give your take on it?


matthewcline  (D 21585)

Aug 27, 2012, 12:01 PM
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I strongly support all airport access issues. There is a lot of discussion about the proposed Parachute Landing Area issues and the time for putting in viewpoints to the FAA is rapidly approaching its termination. The proposal they have promoted is very restrictive to many existing operations and needs to be adjusted with common sense.

As to funding a Demo Team, I think their impetus is to put a really professional team in the mix for airshows which unfortunately did have quite a few mishaps these past few years with some injuries to both skydivers and spectators. I'm a bit wishy-washy on this but I can see their viewpoint.

Medicals for Tandem Instructors, I think they should be required. Unfortunately, with a past (unfortunate) record and/or multiple DWIs, a person may not be eligible for an FAA medical certificate. Several possibilities were brought to the table but none of them passed muster with the existing BOD members. This is one of those things that the FAA may be involved in as tandem incidents continue to increase.

My hope is to be able to represent the common everyday jumper and rating holder, not the team jumper or the DZ owner. I want to bring some sense to the discussions as I have tried to do these past many years.

The Demo Team as presented was not what you wrote here. As presented it would be no better than the semi pro Teams they wished to compete against. The potential for more harm than good was prevalent.

Chucks Reply is far better than mine.

Matt


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stratostar  (Student)

Aug 27, 2012, 12:26 PM
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The proposal they have promoted is very restrictive to many existing operations and needs to be adjusted with common sense.

What do you bring to the table and what are your ideas to deal the FAA on this or as you say "be adjusted with common sense".

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with a past (unfortunate) record and/or multiple DWIs, a person may not be eligible for an FAA medical certificate.

So your saying that you support the granting a waver to a life long drunk who has had his DL revoked for life by the state of Ohio, due to all his DUI's, like 15 of them or so. In order for him to conduct tandem jumps..... Oh wait, I thought everyone was all bent out of shape about DUI's and yet a life long and I might add, highly recorded life long drunks can get a pass.....

See how that shit don't pass the smell test here. Also what professional demo teams have had major screw up's this season where people got hurt?

What is your take on the 9 or 10 or 12 airplanes the industry has had crash this season due to lack of fuel. And with all the education out there on flying without fuel and how that don't work out to well, how do you propose to help end this spike in AC incidents, after all the hoopla over the NTSB report and all that.


matthewcline  (D 21585)

Aug 27, 2012, 12:39 PM
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(wrong guy)

Matt


stratostar  (Student)

Aug 27, 2012, 2:08 PM
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Last in line..Wink




MikeTJumps  (D 5957)

Aug 27, 2012, 8:22 PM
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No, I don't support having a TI rating for a person with multiple DUIs. I think a TI needs to be very professional and have a clean record or one that has been proven to be reliable. Multiple DUIs...no way. One mistake, okay. Two is questionable but three and he or she is out in my book!

Other questions....I can't answer them right now. I'm exhausted from being flight delayed from the PIA meeting. I need some sleep.


MikeTJumps  (D 5957)

Aug 28, 2012, 10:14 AM
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Chuck,
You are correct in that nothing has been publicly stated but I suspect that there will be statements in the USPA's secretary's minutes as to what their intent was. I was there for part of the discussion but not for all of it.

I have mixed feelings about it. I think several teams should be designated as professional demonstration teams representing the USPA at airshows., not just one. Airshows get lots of publicity. The REMAX team of Al Saylor's is one of the good ones that I know of. I've flown his aircraft and jumped on a demo of his in the past. He does a good job.




chuckakers  (D 10855)

Aug 28, 2012, 10:53 AM
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Chuck,
You are correct in that nothing has been publicly stated but I suspect that there will be statements in the USPA's secretary's minutes as to what their intent was. I was there for part of the discussion but not for all of it.

I have mixed feelings about it. I think several teams should be designated as professional demonstration teams representing the USPA at airshows., not just one. Airshows get lots of publicity. The REMAX team of Al Saylor's is one of the good ones that I know of. I've flown his aircraft and jumped on a demo of his in the past. He does a good job.

Just to make completely sure that I'm getting this right, you are telling me that one of the motives behind USPA wanting to start "their own" demo team was indeed because of a few mishaps by existing teams?

And moreover, why should there be ANY teams representing USPA at ANY demos?

Again, we are going places USPA isn't chartered to go. Aside from possibly the Knights, airshow patrons couldn't give a rats ass where a demo team comes from or who they are. Having a team with USPA patches on their jumpsuits won't do any more to promote the sport than a team without said patches, so my next question is exactly what do you believe we have to gain by deploying a USPA team that isn't being gained from the existing efforts of existing teams?


robinheid  (D 5533)

Aug 28, 2012, 12:17 PM
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Chuck,
You are correct in that nothing has been publicly stated but I suspect that there will be statements in the USPA's secretary's minutes as to what their intent was. I was there for part of the discussion but not for all of it.

I have mixed feelings about it. I think several teams should be designated as professional demonstration teams representing the USPA at airshows., not just one. Airshows get lots of publicity. The REMAX team of Al Saylor's is one of the good ones that I know of. I've flown his aircraft and jumped on a demo of his in the past. He does a good job.

Just to make completely sure that I'm getting this right, you are telling me that one of the motives behind USPA wanting to start "their own" demo team was indeed because of a few mishaps by existing teams?

And moreover, why should there be ANY teams representing USPA at ANY demos?

Again, we are going places USPA isn't chartered to go. Aside from possibly the Knights, airshow patrons couldn't give a rats ass where a demo team comes from or who they are. Having a team with USPA patches on their jumpsuits won't do any more to promote the sport than a team without said patches, so my next question is exactly what do you believe we have to gain by deploying a USPA team that isn't being gained from the existing efforts of existing teams?

+1

And not only is there nothing to be gained, there is a great deal that could be lost through the associated liability in the event that a "USPA" demo team mucks up a demo -- regardless of whether it's an "official" USPA team or a "designated" USPA team.

There are always going to be muckups at demos --even the APT has had its moments over the years -- and for USPA to get into this business in any way shape or form is brain dead on its face and would make the Skyride fiasco look like chump change.

And when you take into account the way in which it will steal business from its own members, it's really a recipe for a first-class clusterfink -- and along with the wingsuit rating nonsense is just one more solution in search of a problem that will actually create problems where there are none.

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pms07  (D 7571)

Aug 28, 2012, 7:21 PM
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Mike,
Many members, including me, want USPA to stay out of the demo business. There are potential conflicts of interest and other issues with that proposal...and I don't recall anyone ever proposing that mishaps with other teams was part of the rationale. Recommend you get that issue straight.

Not answering questions from anonymous troll-like posters is entirely reasonable. But, expect an infrequent communication like that if you are elected. At least that was my experience on the Board...

Meanwhile, explaining your currency circumstances is advisable. For me, a candidate not having recent jumps in no way disqualifies them and there are several outstanding past BoD members that did not jump for many years because of injuries or other reasons. I could name at least 3 I've voted for multiple times.

At the same time, when I mark the ballot of a candidate that has not jumped for years I want to know why...and I might question something like "I've been too busy for 4 years". I don't know or have comments on your circumstances other than what I've seen in this forum...but I think a more expansive explanation might be in your interests.

Some in this forum are likely unaware that you are a long time USPA activist and have put significant effort into supporting USPA...including working with the BoD, all at your own expense I assume. I admire that and think it's great to have another candidate with a track record of contributing to the sport.

Pat


robinheid  (D 5533)

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Mike... when I mark the ballot of a candidate that has not jumped for years I want to know why...and I might question something like "I've been too busy for 4 years". I don't know or have comments on your circumstances other than what I've seen in this forum...but I think a more expansive explanation might be in your interests.

Jan Meyer hasn't jumped for years, either. Funny that no one demands to know why or challenge her fitness to be on the board because of that.

Some years back, I opposed Jan being on the board because she was an unnecessarily disruptive loose cannon incapable of working as part of a team.*
Even then, she hadn't jumped for some time, but that was never among my objections because it's not important.

In fact, over the years I've seen a number of mad skillz super-current jumpers who were complete disasters on the board.

So this continual yammering about Mike's jump currency -- especially given his very-current-in-GA status, is what in propaganda is called a "straw man" -- an issue of little significance that is put forward in order to "win" an easy argument.

So get over it, all of you. There may indeed be good reasons to oppose Mike for a slot on the board, but jump currency isn't even a bad reason; it's just a straw man standing in puppy poop.

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* For the record, none of my above-listed objections to Jan are... current any more. She has reduced her downside while increasing her upside and I think she has become one of the better members of the current board and maybe even one of the better ones ever to serve, and I've been around a lot of them.


pms07  (D 7571)

Aug 29, 2012, 11:30 AM
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Robin,
For me it's not about challenging the candidates fitness. Rather it's something I'm interested in knowing so I better understand the candidate and their interests in skydiving. And I said nothing about opposing Mike...

I see that as a legitimate question but in no way would consider it a disqualifier. While you may consider it a straw man other members may assign more (or less) significance to currency, just like any other issue. Opinions vary...

I have voted for JM and would do so again. I also have discussed this question in PMs with MikeT. I have no reservations about his qualifications as a candidate and believe he would be a great BoD member.

Pat


robinheid  (D 5533)

Aug 29, 2012, 1:23 PM
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Robin,
For me it's not about challenging the candidates fitness. Rather it's something I'm interested in knowing so I better understand the candidate and their interests in skydiving. And I said nothing about opposing Mike...

I see that as a legitimate question but in no way would consider it a disqualifier. While you may consider it a straw man other members may assign more (or less) significance to currency, just like any other issue. Opinions vary...

I have voted for JM and would do so again. I also have discussed this question in PMs with MikeT. I have no reservations about his qualifications as a candidate and believe he would be a great BoD member.

Pat

Fair enough. Sorry to lump you in with the straw man terminators.

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chuckakers  (D 10855)

Aug 29, 2012, 4:46 PM
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Robin,
For me it's not about challenging the candidates fitness. Rather it's something I'm interested in knowing so I better understand the candidate and their interests in skydiving. And I said nothing about opposing Mike...

I see that as a legitimate question but in no way would consider it a disqualifier. While you may consider it a straw man other members may assign more (or less) significance to currency, just like any other issue. Opinions vary...

I have voted for JM and would do so again. I also have discussed this question in PMs with MikeT. I have no reservations about his qualifications as a candidate and believe he would be a great BoD member.

Pat

Fair enough. Sorry to lump you in with the straw man terminators.

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My problem with long-time uncurrent jumpers on the board is that their absence at the DZ gets them out of touch with what's really happening in the real world every day at DZ's, which eventually leads to decisions based on poor logic.

This is a sport of great nuance equal to consequence. I believe that the folks calling the shots at HQ should be regulars at the DZ's they represent and active, involved players in their jumping communities. Otherwise I don't see them having the detailed understanding from the field to call good shots.

I don't believe a board member can make an educated decision on mufti-faceted issues like canopy training, wingsuit instruction, etc. based on a 30-minute presentation by a lobbyist or their detractors, or a board meeting Q&A. They need to be in the field.








Ron

Sep 4, 2012, 1:20 PM
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As to funding a Demo Team, I think their impetus is to put a really professional team in the mix for airshows which unfortunately did have quite a few mishaps these past few years with some injuries to both skydivers and spectators. I'm a bit wishy-washy on this but I can see their viewpoint.

You lost my vote.

There is no place for an organization to compete against its own members.... period. It would be like the USPA funding a 4way team using my dues money to compete against me - Total Bullshit.

Also, not ONE single comment about the creation of the "USPA team" was due to accidents of Pro rated teams.... I call BS on this one as well. It was clearly an attempt to raise money for the US comp teams.... A noble idea except it screwed the membership.

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Medicals for Tandem Instructors, I think they should be required. Unfortunately, with a past (unfortunate) record and/or multiple DWIs, a person may not be eligible for an FAA medical certificate.

Lost my vote again.

1. the 'unfortunate' accidents you mention all were from guys WHO HAD PASSED A MEDICAL!!!! It did nothing to prevent them. Further the FAA recognizes that you do not need a medical to teach light sport or fly commercially in a balloon.

2. The DUI angle is weak.
a. If you have DUI's, you do not have a drivers license. So make the DL equal a medical like the FAA does for Sport Pilot.
b. How about I don't care what the TI did last night as long as he is not drunk today? Let the DZO run his organization and if he even thinks the TI had a drink, GROUND HIM!

This is just more pandering to the manufacturers.

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My hope is to be able to represent the common everyday jumper and rating holder

Your statements here do not show that hope.


MikeTJumps  (D 5957)

Sep 4, 2012, 7:50 PM
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Such is life. Your one vote for someone else will count for them and I wish them good luck.

I will never be able to please everyone of the members. I just hope that I can please a majority of them.


chuckakers  (D 10855)

Sep 5, 2012, 5:43 AM
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Such is life. Your one vote for someone else will count for them and I wish them good luck.

I will never be able to please everyone of the members. I just hope that I can please a majority of them.

Mike, you never answered my request for confirmation that the mishaps by demo teams was one of the reasons for the proposed formation of a USPA demo team.

Can you confirm that this was one of the reasons as you posted earlier?


Ron

Sep 5, 2012, 7:26 AM
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People like you are the problem with the USPA.

You support the USPA competing for jobs against its own members - All based on falsehoods.

Further, you support the manufacturers over the members. It is clear you are very entrenched in the PIA because that is an organization for the manufacturers, but the USPA is supposed to be for the MEMBERS... It seems too many on the BOD (or who aspire to be on the BOD) forget that.


normiss  (D 28356)

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^This.



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