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type245

May 10, 2012, 5:08 AM
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Hello,

I am looking for a freeflysuit which is good for both, tunnel and outdoor. I am interested in tonfly uno 619, boogieman cristal, sonic v2.

I have less than 300 jumps. I am actually a beginner in freefly, able to sitfly and stand up a bit.

I am going to do some tunnelcamps. At the moment I use a freeflypants and a shirt to jump.

Are these suits designed more for advanced or is it a good investment for my freefly, especially if I want to go in the tunnel, regularly?

And which one do think is the best for me?

I am 1,75m and 80kg.
Thanks a lot


type245

May 12, 2012, 3:37 AM
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Nobody an advice?


EmuuuH  (D 31663)

May 12, 2012, 10:49 AM
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I have a sonic v2.0 and it is really good.
You do not need a suit like this. Maybe if you want to compete world class.

But it is really nice, and you can definitely feel the difference in flying with this suit.

It definitely makes you a better freeflyerCool


KaiPirat  (C 68262)

May 13, 2012, 8:33 PM
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Sonic V.2.0 no doubt..

Realy comfortable and very fast....
This is the suit if you're a Freeflyer.


linestretch  (D 21060)

May 16, 2012, 3:48 PM
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to say the suit makes you better freeflier or 'is the suit if your freeflier' is silly. You make the freeflier...NOT the friggin suit. I've been jumping a worn out hand me down for the past few years and would like to consider myself a freeflier. I wouldn't waste a lot of money on something super fancy until you get good enough to know what you need. Otherwise, you're gonna look like 'that guy' that has matching everything but just sucks. My suggestion is look for something used on here and work with that until you really get an idea of how much drag you want, where you want spandex, where you want cordura...bla bla bla.


rehmwa  (D 12816)

May 17, 2012, 10:57 AM
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I wouldn't waste a lot of money on something super fancy until you get good enough to know what you need.

I like this. As long as the suit isn't a super loose and flappy affair, this really does it.


stayhigh  (F 111)

May 17, 2012, 9:22 PM
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really funny to see a newb with super tight freefly suit, because that is what all badass are wearing, when the kid actually needs some drag or lose weight.

prime example of why you should wait till you figure it out a little.


piisfish

May 18, 2012, 1:15 AM
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if you are looking into european suits, I can recommend the Sonic Basic (or similar from other manufacturers, but I am partial to Sonic) http://sonicflywear.com/...ategory/1-free%20fly which is more than enough for beginning (and progressing), a coupl eof years ago these "basic" suits were World Champion Shocked


Squeak  (E 1313)

May 18, 2012, 1:35 AM
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really funny to see a newb with super tight freefly suit, because that is what all badass are wearing, when the kid actually needs some drag or lose weight.

prime example of why you should wait till you figure it out a little.
a lot of times they get what is recommended to them, so perhaps instead of laughing at then you could guide them.


pilot-one  (D 30000)

May 18, 2012, 5:23 AM
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really funny to see a newb with super tight freefly suit, because that is what all badass are wearing, when the kid actually needs some drag or lose weight.

prime example of why you should wait till you figure it out a little.
a lot of times they get what is recommended to them, so perhaps instead of laughing at then you could guide them.

I agree with you Squeak.


stayhigh  (F 111)

May 18, 2012, 7:12 AM
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i can only laugh because they never asked???


Squeak  (E 1313)

May 18, 2012, 9:33 AM
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i can only laugh because they never asked???
perhaps you're not the sort of guy people would feel comfortable asking


linestretch  (D 21060)

May 18, 2012, 11:42 AM
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really funny to see a newb with super tight freefly suit, because that is what all badass are wearing, when the kid actually needs some drag or lose weight.

prime example of why you should wait till you figure it out a little.
a lot of times they get what is recommended to them, so perhaps instead of laughing at then you could guide them.

Totally agree. But remember there's a lot of jumpers out there that already know it all and don't ask (so yes, lets laugh at them). But Yes, guiding is needed more in the sport as is listening.

To the OP, I recommend you get something used/cheap...whatever and work with that until you really know what you want & need. I see it all the time where jumpers just get what they think looks good...and that's all fine and dandy until you realize you can't fly it and it's really holding you back. Baby steps.....you will get there but you need to hit the steps between start and 'farther down the line'.


ataltitude  (C 1009)

Jun 7, 2012, 4:20 AM
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Hey type

The best thing to do is email manufactures, give them your spec's. Go from there.
Enjoy


jdizzle  (D License)

Jun 8, 2012, 1:40 AM
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use the suits at the tunnel. since your new to it you'll be spending a lot of time on the net especially learning to back fly. no sense in ripping up your new million dollar jumpsuit. also the ones at the tunnel have grippers that help the instructors spot you through transitions. save your money for flying.


stayhigh  (F 111)

Jun 13, 2012, 7:12 AM
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it is all about the suit, buy the most expensive one.
The suit will fly YOU.

More money=better flying. DO it.


adagen

Jun 13, 2012, 7:50 AM
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If you're planning on doing a fair bit in the tunnel, cordura on knees and backside will reduce the wear.


rehmwa  (D 12816)

Jun 13, 2012, 10:45 AM
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it is all about the suit, buy the most expensive one.
The suit will fly YOU.

More money=better flying. DO it.

LaughLaugh


tsisson  (D 19283)

Jun 13, 2012, 9:27 PM
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it is all about the suit, buy the most expensive one.
The suit will fly YOU.

More money=better flying. DO it.

You are just a treat...never had a mentor in life? Learn to pay it forward skygod...


Squeak  (E 1313)

Jun 14, 2012, 12:45 AM
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it is all about the suit, buy the most expensive one.
The suit will fly YOU.

More money=better flying. DO it.

This may explain in part why people seem to bypass you when looking for adviceSlySlySly


Zenister  (A 42)

Jun 14, 2012, 10:15 AM
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use the suits at the tunnel. since your new to it you'll be spending a lot of time on the net especially learning to back fly. no sense in ripping up your new million dollar jumpsuit. also the ones at the tunnel have grippers that help the instructors spot you through transitions. save your money for flying.

only if the tunnel's suits fit you well. If you are in between their sizes the smaller ones will restrict your range of motion and the larger ones will flap around so much you wont learn proper position and control as quickly.


type245

Jun 19, 2012, 7:27 AM
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Thanks for your input. I'll use that ones from the tunnel. And will looking after a used one.


DrewEckhardt  (D 28461)

Jun 22, 2012, 2:58 PM
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If you're planning on doing a fair bit in the tunnel, cordura on knees and backside will reduce the wear.

I have all my freefly suits made with reinforced rear and knees because the airplanes we crawl around in when sky jumping often have bits like cargo tie down tracks that can do a number on jump suits.


propilot  (C License)

Jun 25, 2012, 9:42 PM
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What is the problem with buying a top of the line jumpsuit if you can afford it? Its not like we are talking canopies here. A 600 dollar jumpsuit isnt going to hurt.

I am in a similar boat. Why should I pay 200 dollars for a used jumpsuit that someone has farted in for 2 years, that doesn't quite fit me, and that I will want to replace soon anyway.

Id rather pay twice as much and not waste 200 dollars. Get something that fits. Has stretchy areas for increased range of motion (not common on even slightly older used suits), and that I will use for a long time to come.

This isnt like reccomending a new rider buy a less powerful sportbike because 20K ducati will hurt him. Its a suit.


virgin-burner

Jun 25, 2012, 10:05 PM
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if you're being LO'd and wear a fancy suit, the guy doesnt know you and you tell him you're shit, the poor guy wont know if you're fucking around with him or not! Tongue


hparrish  (D 25090)

Jun 26, 2012, 6:21 AM
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I used to believe this. However after purchasing a new modern jumpsuit. I'm amazed at the additional range I now have. I say if you are new and can afford a modern suit then get one. It won't hurt you a bit.


stayhigh  (F 111)

Jun 29, 2012, 6:18 AM
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plus 1 on that comment.

seriously, don't waste your money on suit that fits no one.

you could've spent just 700 dollar on a suit. not 200 wasted than another 700. so that jump suit now costed you 900 dollar.

if you bought that 200 dollar generic suit, that one will sit in garage somewheres until you get your tandem rating.

and flying with freefly pants and t-shirt doesn't work either.

and that freefly pants sat somewhere until I got my tandem rating.


(This post was edited by stayhigh on Jun 29, 2012, 6:22 AM)


propilot  (C License)

Jun 29, 2012, 11:32 AM
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Now if only we could get the nicer jumpsuits without waiting an entire season! 24 weeks!


linestretch  (D 21060)

Jun 29, 2012, 12:11 PM
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and flying with freefly pants and t-shirt doesn't work either.


really? How's that possible. So it's back to 'it must be the suit....not my skills'. I jumped that way for a LONG ass time. I think you're wrong there.

The bottom line is, if you have the money and it's not an issue, buy whatever you want. The reality is this though, you'll most likely STILL end up getting another suit that more suits your needs/flying/weight....bla bla bla. I wish I had the money to throw away. And remember, there a lot of used suits out there. Once you're done with a suit doesn't mean it will sit in the garage and never get used again....pass that thing on. Sell it (or since money is no issue, give it away).


kentAllan  (B License)

Jul 1, 2012, 12:41 AM
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I'm a fairly fresh jumpeer who started jumping last year. I have about 80 jumps and for the first 40 i used a crappy Pittz suit. I got tired of it and ordered a Sonic V.2. I love it. It have far more range than the pittz suit. both my tracking and sit skills have improved after I got my new suit.
I paid the rush fee on the suit, and it took about 2 weeks for them to make it for me.


DrewEckhardt  (D 28461)

Jul 1, 2012, 11:57 PM
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What is the problem with buying a top of the line jumpsuit if you can afford it?

Because the people building "top of the line" jump suits

1) Aren't familiar with the average fall rate at your home dropzone where a suit built for that neutral speed will leave more range for movement.

2) Aren't the ones measuring you which makes time consuming finger pointing probable if anything is wrong.

3) Will have a longer delivery time from their backlog.

4) Will charge you much more to cover overhead and because they can.

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I am in a similar boat. Why should I pay 200 dollars for a used jumpsuit that someone has farted in for 2 years, that doesn't quite fit me, and that I will want to replace soon anyway.

There's no reason to do that either.

I paid $250 for my last brand new jumpsuit in 2005 made to measure with the stripes sewn in as panels instead of done as apliques which also offsets the seams so they're not on top where your rig hangs.

That one came from a local rigger with suit making experience and abilities just like the two before it.


propilot  (C License)

Jul 2, 2012, 7:49 AM
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What is the problem with buying a top of the line jumpsuit if you can afford it?

Because the people building "top of the line" jump suits

1) Aren't familiar with the average fall rate at your home dropzone where a suit built for that neutral speed will leave more range for movement.

2) Aren't the ones measuring you which makes time consuming finger pointing probable if anything is wrong.

3) Will have a longer delivery time from their backlog.

4) Will charge you much more to cover overhead and because they can.

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I am in a similar boat. Why should I pay 200 dollars for a used jumpsuit that someone has farted in for 2 years, that doesn't quite fit me, and that I will want to replace soon anyway.

There's no reason to do that either.

I paid $250 for my last brand new jumpsuit in 2005 made to measure with the stripes sewn in as panels instead of done as apliques which also offsets the seams so they're not on top where your rig hangs.

That one came from a local rigger with suit making experience and abilities just like the two before it.



Well I would say you are probably on to something. Not everyone has someone local that will do it though.


stayhigh  (F 111)

Jul 10, 2012, 8:41 PM
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Yeah, I jumped that way for a long time as well. but not to the full potential of your 25 bucks.

t-shirt and freefly pants are the worst combo for sit flying.
Specially if you are new and trying to learn.

yeah, you can sit fly in anything, track pants and no shirt. but not easy as a even drag thru the body, you'll have much easier time turning points while sit flying with proper suit.


propilot  (C License)

Jul 23, 2012, 2:40 PM
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On the off chance anyone cares..

I ended up ordering a Freak N Suits FF suit. I have one of their camera suits and a seamstress friend was amazed at the strong construction.

Its not a Sonic V3 but it should work for me for quite some time.



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