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DougH  (D License)

Jul 31, 2012, 11:32 AM
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I have been reading and researching a little more this morning. Some of the other videos on the web look real nice, especially the ones where they are putting them on rc helicopters.

Is the BOSS so fundamentally different from the previous OSS that is now an asset, when the OSS would previously make the camera un-jumpable?


mchamp  (D 32129)

Aug 1, 2012, 2:41 AM
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I'm absolutely sold on this BOSS system, absolutely stable and clear as no other.

Now just the wait to see if anything smaller is offered in Jan when sony releases their new lineup and hopefully cheaper along with outside hard case from perhaps cookie or bonehead or tonfly or whomever else.


TDoMatzore  (D 31871)

Aug 26, 2012, 5:15 PM
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Pulling the viewfinder out and up , seemed a good idea , and hypeye also worked good while testing on the ground, BUT waiting for the exit in standby mode, (longer than usual), the camera turned off several times.
I pulled out the view finder a few seconds before exit, and immediately the hypeye button to begin rec.
It worked just fine during the jump.
Despite the problems, great quality and amazing BOSS.
Maybe there is a menu setting i don't know about.
(The camera was not mine)
I ll try to upload the video soon.


TDoMatzore  (D 31871)

Aug 27, 2012, 10:50 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/...x=1&feature=plcp


pope  (D 19947)

Aug 28, 2012, 4:19 AM
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Has anyone had any issues with centrifugal force sending the BOSS out wide when cartwheeling or transitioning from a headdown to head up position? I love what see with the BOSS, but I haven't seen any more aggressive flying with the system yet. Just curious.
cheers.
pope


trunk  (D 28511)

Sep 4, 2012, 5:15 PM
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The camera will not stay on unless the lcd is either flipped open or the viewfinder is pulled out. Unfortunately there is not an option for "power on by LCD" on this camera.


TDoMatzore  (D 31871)

Sep 5, 2012, 8:08 AM
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Even with a new Hypeye (2011 + ) ?


Skwrl  (C 36419)

Sep 5, 2012, 9:04 AM
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In reply to:
The camera will not stay on unless the lcd is either flipped open or the viewfinder is pulled out. Unfortunately there is not an option for "power on by LCD" on this camera.

I just pull mine out. Is there a problem with doing that?


trunk  (D 28511)

Sep 10, 2012, 12:13 AM
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Once it's pulled out or flipped the HYPEYE 2011+ can turn the camera on and off. Unfortunately it's just the nature of the latest sony cameras. We used to have this same issue with the TGx series of cameras. You can leave the camera for weeks like that with no battery drain.


DougH  (D License)

Oct 3, 2012, 11:17 AM
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Just a FYI, Sony and a number of other reputable dealers appear to be running a 200 dollar off sale this week, maybe next.

I am sure come this January or February I will be cursing myself for buying it at 1299, but the price seemed bearable right now, and it is a tax write off.

I deferred the pain a bit with an 18 month deferred interest deal from Sony. Pirate


malboy  (D 103650)

Apr 25, 2013, 7:49 AM
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has anyone also tried the Sony CX410?

ive heard its a cheaper version of the CX730?

also, does anyone have a definitive answer on the hypeye problem (i.e. does it work with the screen turned or viewfiner out?), as this is the only real issue i can see now, with the wide angle lens/front thread and steadyshot issues sorted...

Thanks!


Skwrl  (C 36419)

Apr 25, 2013, 9:17 AM
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In reply to:
has anyone also tried the Sony CX410?

ive heard its a cheaper version of the CX730?

also, does anyone have a definitive answer on the hypeye problem (i.e. does it work with the screen turned or viewfiner out?), as this is the only real issue i can see now, with the wide angle lens/front thread and steadyshot issues sorted...

Thanks!

I have a CX760, which I think is the US version of the CX730, top mounted with a HypEye. When I want to turn my camera on, I pull out the view finder (which puts the camera into standby mode). When I want to start shooting, I press the button on the HypEye.

I don't have mine in a box, so it's a very simple thing to do. Might be more complicated if you have it in a box.


trunk  (D 28511)

Apr 26, 2013, 3:35 PM
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Sony unfortunately will not allow me to turn the camera on without having a screen flipped onto itself or the viewfinder pulled. Last I checked though, once the camera is set this way you can turn off the camera via the HYPEYE 2011+ and use it normally.

The only issue I've heard is if you are using a wide angle lens you will see odd shake. With that said, both of these cameras are super wide stock and you probably don't even need a wide angle lens.


malboy  (D 103650)

Apr 30, 2013, 2:58 AM
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Hi Trunk,

ive noticed that the CX410 doesnt seem to have the half moon connector? do you know if this is correct?

http://www.sony.co.uk/product/cam-high-definition-on-memory-stick/hdr-cx410ve/technical-specifications#tab

on the specs, it does seem to say that the composite out cable is sold separately. have you seen this before, does the hypeye work with some kind of bridge cable?

also, the cx410 seems to have no viewfinder, so the screen would have to be flipped...


brokky

May 1, 2013, 6:00 AM
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In reply to:
Hi Trunk,

ive noticed that the CX410 doesnt seem to have the half moon connector? do you know if this is correct?

http://www.sony.co.uk/product/cam-high-definition-on-memory-stick/hdr-cx410ve/technical-specifications#tab

on the specs, it does seem to say that the composite out cable is sold separately. have you seen this before, does the hypeye work with some kind of bridge cable?

also, the cx410 seems to have no viewfinder, so the screen would have to be flipped...

hi,
i┤ve been trying the cx 410 for some jumps, viewfinder doesn┤t have to be flipped, "viewfinder power on" can be disactivated in the menu. It doesn┤t have the half moon output , you need to buy the optional "multi" cable for that.
Also the BOSS system works fine but only WITHOUT additional wide angle lens. In the menu there┤s the option "lens conversion" but only for a tele lens. On the more expensive models, in the "lens conversion" option you have wide and tele.
Anyway i tried to jump with a additional wide angle lens and the results of the BOSS system were not good.
Without wide angle the BOSS system works really well. The angle of the camera is quite wide, like a 26mm on a full frame stills camera or similar to a 17 mm on a non full frame stills camera.
hope this helps

Bruno


Skwrl  (C 36419)

May 1, 2013, 12:12 PM
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On the more expensive models, in the "lens conversion" option you have wide and tele.

This is true, but from my experience, it doesn't work very well in freefall. Nevertheless, the built in wide angle is wide enough to film, e.g., tandems and other wide shots.


malboy  (D 103650)

May 3, 2013, 9:50 AM
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Hi Trunk, do you sell these?

http://www.sony.co.uk/group/1237478318389#

i live in the UK, thanks.

Ewan


brokky

May 5, 2013, 12:38 PM
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In reply to:
has anyone also tried the Sony CX410?

ive heard its a cheaper version of the CX730?

also, does anyone have a definitive answer on the hypeye problem (i.e. does it work with the screen turned or viewfiner out?), as this is the only real issue i can see now, with the wide angle lens/front thread and steadyshot issues sorted...


Thanks!

This is a video shot with the CX-410 during the recent World Team event in Eloy, no extra wide angle ( as i mentioned before it doesn┤t work with the BOSS system on the cx410 )
http://vimeo.com/...73146/video/65509737


(This post was edited by brokky on May 5, 2013, 1:11 PM)


Zlew  (D 21616)

May 6, 2013, 12:15 PM
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Hi Bruno-

With the adapter, does the Hypeye work? Do you have a link to the multi cable?

I really like the idea of the BOSS...and I am starting to research the cx430 (looks like it also does not have the half moon port).


DougH  (D License)

May 6, 2013, 1:00 PM
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Bruno,

Can you please post the footage with the wide angle? I am curious how it looked.


trunk  (D 28511)

May 7, 2013, 9:46 AM
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With the vmc-avm1 the HYPEYE does work. I do stock a few of them on our website for those of you overseas. I'm working with my suppliers for finding a more permanent solution.

Thank you,
-Trunk


(This post was edited by trunk on May 7, 2013, 9:57 AM)


brokky

May 8, 2013, 6:18 AM
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DougH wrote:
Bruno,

Can you please post the footage with the wide angle? I am curious how it looked.

i didn┤t keep that footage, basicly it looks like the BOSS system is over-compensating, it actually looked worse then with the steadyshot off.


garywainwright  (D 11021)

May 21, 2013, 1:38 PM
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all this was shot at the weekend by Ewan Cowie with a CX410 with no additional lens (not even a filter - notice on the last jump how the shutter closes!)

http://vimeo.com/66597489


DougH  (D License)

May 22, 2013, 3:16 AM
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I wonder about that shutter close? Either way I have a filter on mine, I am to clumsy and don't want to wreck the glass.


malboy  (D 103650)

May 23, 2013, 6:58 AM
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yeah, i have ordered a filter, but it didnt arrive in time, so i jumped without.

the shutter close happened on about half the jumps, only when tracking off...

Bruno, have you tried filming using an external wide lens on the 410 with the steadyshot OFF?


(This post was edited by malboy on May 23, 2013, 6:59 AM)


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