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Fall0ut

Apr 14, 2012, 2:19 AM
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Re: [stayhigh] Elsinore or Lodi for weekday jumps? [In reply to] Can't Post

Hi stayhigh,

Can you please give me a little more detailed information?
- What makes Lodi for "non-badasses" like me with 150 jumps so difficult? The DZO, not getting slots because of tandem priority, the landing conditions or skygods?
- Which Perris rules do you mean killing the fun factor?
- And what are "real" and "fake" tunnels? Do you only consider recirculating tunnels "real"?


matthewcline  (D 21585)

Apr 14, 2012, 1:54 PM
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Re: [Fall0ut] Elsinore or Lodi for weekday jumps? [In reply to] Can't Post

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Hi stayhigh,

Can you please give me a little more detailed information?
- What makes Lodi for "non-badasses" like me with 150 jumps so difficult? The DZO, not getting slots because of tandem priority, the landing conditions or skygods?
- Which Perris rules do you mean killing the fun factor?
- And what are "real" and "fake" tunnels? Do you only consider recirculating tunnels "real"?

Paris is a real tunnel, it is one of the earlier Cali Tunnels and there is no shortage of world class and proven coaches there.

Paris, never saw a fun factor killing rule there. Maybe stayhigh meant "rules" in general? As in Paris has some basic safety ones.

I personally would pick Elsinore or Paris.

Matt


crotalus01  (B 28932)

Apr 14, 2012, 6:10 PM
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I have never jumped at Lodi, but from what I have gathered from reading here, the outs are less than ideal - I believe it is surrounded by vineyards and a busy highway? I am sure someone who has experience there can correct this info if it wrong....


Premier DSE  (D 29060)

Apr 14, 2012, 7:49 PM
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Re: [crotalus01] Elsinore or Lodi for weekday jumps? [In reply to] Can't Post

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I have never jumped at Lodi, but from what I have gathered from reading here, the outs are less than ideal - I believe it is surrounded by vineyards and a busy highway? I am sure someone who has experience there can correct this info if it wrong....

Lodi is not a place where you want to land off, both from the "outs" perspective or DZO's pleasure.


headoverheels  (D License)

Apr 16, 2012, 12:11 PM
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Re: [crotalus01] Elsinore or Lodi for weekday jumps? [In reply to] Can't Post

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I have never jumped at Lodi, but from what I have gathered from reading here, the outs are less than ideal - I believe it is surrounded by vineyards and a busy highway? I am sure someone who has experience there can correct this info if it wrong....

The landing area is quite large, but many outs that were there 20 years ago have been planted in grapes.


mchamp  (D 32129)

Apr 16, 2012, 11:45 PM
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Re: [matthewcline] Elsinore or Lodi for weekday jumps? [In reply to] Can't Post

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In reply to:
Hi stayhigh,

Can you please give me a little more detailed information?
- What makes Lodi for "non-badasses" like me with 150 jumps so difficult? The DZO, not getting slots because of tandem priority, the landing conditions or skygods?
- Which Perris rules do you mean killing the fun factor?
- And what are "real" and "fake" tunnels? Do you only consider recirculating tunnels "real"?

Paris is a real tunnel, it is one of the earlier Cali Tunnels and there is no shortage of world class and proven coaches there.

Paris, never saw a fun factor killing rule there. Maybe stayhigh meant "rules" in general? As in Paris has some basic safety ones.

I personally would pick Elsinore or Paris.

Matt

There is a tunnel in Paris? LaughLaugh ok ok everyone knows what you mean Wink

Fallout: By fake tunnel I believe he meant underpowered compared to other newer tunnels. For people who don't have too much TT or don't weigh too much its really not a big deal

In terms of Perris killing the fun factor I believe stay higher is a CP/swooper? and there are NO hook turns allowed that are above 90 degrees. In other words people who are looking to swoop go elsewhere for bigger rotations.


stayhigh  (F 111)

Apr 17, 2012, 5:44 AM
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anything that produces less than 135 mph is fake tunnel.

Perris and Hollywood. Hollywood used to reach up to 155=170 ish, than the crack happened, and they detuned it to 145-155 ish. than VFD went out, and they detuned it down to 135-140.

Belly/Back flying is fine but anything else, you'll have to work hard.


matthewcline  (D 21585)

Apr 17, 2012, 7:29 AM
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anything that produces less than 135 mph is fake tunnel.

Perris and Hollywood. Hollywood used to reach up to 155=170 ish, than the crack happened, and they detuned it to 145-155 ish. than VFD went out, and they detuned it down to 135-140.

Belly/Back flying is fine but anything else, you'll have to work hard.

"Fake" because Vertical RW is hard to do, got it.
In other words it is real, with real coaches, just not what you want.

Matt


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