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Krip  (Student)

Jul 10, 2011, 3:09 PM
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Good morning Gentlemen.


I'm so Old that I can't even remember they if they had a lottery.

I just thought a classificaion# and registration number was all that was required. My first classification was 1SH.Wink

Anyone still remember their lottery number from almost back in the day and where they were when they learned "the number".

We googled the subject last night they even had some news videos on YoutubeCool. It was to late to get started.

Damn I can read a hell of a lot faster than I can type, don't have to worry about spellings nazi's, grammer, proof reading or ramblingShockedSly


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nebug  (C 7042)

Jul 10, 2011, 3:24 PM
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December 1, 1969 - the number was ---------27
Two years later was in Pleiku, Republic of Vietnam (not having a very good time, though - mix up at the tourist bureau probably).


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JerryBaumchen  (D 1543)

Jul 10, 2011, 5:49 PM
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Hi Krip,

I was in & out long before they came up with that 'game.'

One of the guys I went to college with, who was in ROTC & owed Uncle Sammy 5 yrs of active duty, got #366. Crazy

JerryBaumchen


Divalent  (C 40494)

Jul 10, 2011, 6:17 PM
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JohnRich  (D License)

Jul 10, 2011, 6:26 PM
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Number 46 from 1971. I was screwed. Newborn son in July 72, draft notice received one month later, reported for induction one month after that. That's quite an abrupt lifestyle change...
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Krip  (Student)

Jul 10, 2011, 9:47 PM
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HI

I was a REMF air force puke draft dodger etc. Never saw the "Letter you posted"

Every hear the story from almost back in the day about the Stolen C-130. 1969

http://www.bing.com/...amp;src=IE-SearchBox

Damn the clicky thiing wouldn't workFrown I'm oldTongue but you can see my search criteria. so if your interested do your own search.

The crew chief stole the daamn airplane and didn't bring it backShocked "Thats gov't property son do you know how long its going to pay for that bird"Crazy

If you read the the results you'll see there were two versions of what happened to the bird. No doubt that we splashed him.

Two much time away from his wife. The whole squadren was close to that point. Officers dancing on the bar in the O club wearing noting but foot gearShocked

Enlisted swine threatening to burn down the Enlisted swine club.Mad

Can we keep this quite (like mature adults) and see how much traffic we get on this lottery thing.

I'm old, and If this thread ends up in SC Frown I'm doomed, doomed I tell youWink I decline the wonderful opputunity to go there.Pirate

I've tried my best to keep politics, guns etc out of the subject. It's part of the histroy we all shared when us old farts were "Yutes"Wink

I know unrealstic expectationsBlush

R.I,P,


jdobleman  (D 7790)

Jul 10, 2011, 11:57 PM
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You already know I was #2. Any #1's out there?

madjohn


mjosparky  (D 5476)

Jul 11, 2011, 2:26 AM
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Hi Krip,

I was in & out long before they came up with that 'game.'

One of the guys I went to college with, who was in ROTC & owed Uncle Sammy 5 yrs of active duty, got #366. Crazy

JerryBaumchen

Like you Jerry, in 1964 out 1968.

Sparky


davidlayne  (D 3102)

Jul 11, 2011, 2:57 AM
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Was drafted in 1967 before the lottery. Spent a year in RVN.


jimmytavino  (A 3914)

Jul 11, 2011, 3:34 AM
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sure do..Unsure

i was in college... it was early 1972...

"student deferments" had been eliminated....
i lived on a floor in a dorm, which had mostly upperclassmen,,, but there were 5 or 6 freshmen, all of whom would be affected by the lottery draw......

one by one birthdays and corresponding lottery #'s came up... one guy got something in the low 300's most of the others were in the high 200's...THEY all went to the Rathskeller to celebrate

Me????? Unimpressed I waited it out....
Unimpressed well MY birthday came up # 16... Go Figure !!!!

i was healthy, in decent shape, Quite likely to PASS a pre-induction physical,,, and NERVOUS....

Really preferred to STAY in school.....
anyway I received a notice to report for that physical in NYC, sometime in sept...

wrote back to say.. "i'm in college, 375 miles AWAY... can't make it." they responded, Ok sit tight.. we'll re-schedule you to someplace in Buffalo.... Then in Dec of '72 got the new notice, borrowed a roommates van,, drove into rochester. where they put us on a bus to Buffalo.. and bascially spent the rest of the day "Qualifying" for induction....
Was classified 1A. went back to school.. to wait for the draft notice... Within ONE month,,,, Nixon "ended" the draft.... and i was never called...
I had started jumping in sept of '72 and so was happy to finish college and to continue jumping.... AS A CIVILIAN !!!ShockedCoolSmile
often wondered about what things would have been like.. IF i HAD been drafted......Unimpressed

jt


jonstark  (D 8298)

Jul 11, 2011, 4:02 AM
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#5

but the draft ended before they called me up... Whew!

jon


jimartle

Jul 11, 2011, 9:18 AM
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Jan 1970 #36. March 1970, broke my arm on the Parafoil, got a steel plate and a medical deferrment. 3 months later, I was jumping again, and they never called me up


Krip  (Student)

Jul 11, 2011, 9:34 AM
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In reply to:
Hi Krip,

I was in & out long before they came up with that 'game.'

One of the guys I went to college with, who was in ROTC & owed Uncle Sammy 5 yrs of active duty, got #366. Crazy

JerryBaumchen

Like you Jerry, in 1964 out 1968.

Sparky

Hello Gentlemen

GOOD MORNING DZ.COM ( robin williams name that movie)

Jerry and Sparky and the rest of you sweet young things.

I'm still doing my independent research on The internet and there are lots of incorrect info. I know it's the internet but I'm still Shocked.

There were lots of ways to dodge the draft without bugging out. All of my peers in the air force were draft dodgers. I'm a draft dodger and want credit for itMad One guy was only 17yo barely legal to drink when Johnny came marching home from the war. He was a very young confused draft dodger, but even he could find Air force.

I can not tell a lie I only did 3 yr's and 9 month's 66-70. No I didn't bug out, desert, make excuses. Recieve the scarlet double letter DD.

I did get a DD214 good as goldSmile

There were rulesSmile and some people still try and tell me "the rules are the rules" but a GI knows the real deal knew real deal.Sly

Think a polish 2S deferment on the back sideSly

I'm so old and confusedFrown Whine whine whine, Stop picking on me, make them stop picking on me whine whine whine. Smile

Please no politic's, religion or spelling, grammer nazi's. Respect our young brothers that weren't as lucky as us. I like getting olderSmile

I still remember the pics of some of the golden knights on the inside back cover in their PR pic of the parachutist that got sent back to their units and never came homeFrown

R.I.P.

FWIW my bosses first name starts with a K + rip =
KripSmile TMIFrown


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bozo  (D 10154)

Jul 11, 2011, 2:27 PM
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Number 4 summer 1971

Greetings James Bozarth !


JerryBaumchen  (D 1543)

Jul 11, 2011, 3:50 PM
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Hi Krip,

Like Sparky & you, I did my time: 3 yrs 10 mos 24 days in the good old USAF; who could forget? BTW Enlisted in '59 & out in '63.

I was very fortunate in that I was in & out before VN got cooking. Had it been later, I would have gone if called; that's the type of person that I am.

But I'm very glad that it was peacetime for me.

JerryBaumchen

PS) I, like a lot of folks, lost a good friend over there; but that is war and it is never nice. I have the utmost respect for those who had to face it.


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mjosparky  (D 5476)

Jul 11, 2011, 5:04 PM
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Like Sparky & you, I did my time: 3 yrs 10 mos 24 days in the good old USAF; who could forget?

Jerry,

I was not in the USAF, I was a Navy Corpsman. In 1967/68 I was attached to Second Battalion Third Marines in South Viet Nam, Republic of. I got to tour all the hot spots, Hue, A Shau Valley and Khe Sanh. A good time was had by all. Unsure

Sparky

http://i397.photobucket.com/...arky/AndyMikeDes.jpg

http://i397.photobucket.com/...osparky/RockPile.jpg


muff528  (D 17609)

Jul 14, 2011, 9:16 AM
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#315 in the 1st lottery + student deferment. Can't remember the classification (maybe 2-S?). Then from ~1970 till the end of the draft I was 1-A but was never called.


Faicon9493  (D 9493)

Jul 17, 2011, 5:04 AM
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I remember this like it was yesterday. My number was 348. My best friend's number was 1. Fortunately for him, an injury from his high school football days saved his bacon.


kd5xb  (Student)

Jul 17, 2011, 5:40 AM
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Jerry,

I was not in the USAF, I was a Navy Corpsman. In 1967/68 I was attached to Second Battalion Third Marines in South Viet Nam, Republic of. I got to tour all the hot spots, Hue, A Shau Valley and Khe Sanh. A good time was had by all. Unsure

Sparky

GOD BLESS YOU, SPARKY!

Earl
USMC 77-81
USAF 83-99 (RET)

I was in the first year that didn't get lottery numbers. I was class 1H, which meant "holding". However, I DO remember my draft card numbers, even though the Marine Drill Instructors took them away from me and I never saw them again -- 41 35 54 0390


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Krip  (Student)

Sep 26, 2011, 5:25 AM
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GOOD MORNING DZ. COM!!!!!!!

"Robin Williams"

I actually found some news video's of the free lottery number system. Shocked

The draft board or who it was sure dressed funny back then. Cheap suits ties and women wearing dress's and funny hairdooo's.

I'm not sureWink if the current, paid lottery system $$$ would accept the low stds set for the free system

I was expecting numbered ping pong balls, a air machine mixing the balls up in a random manner etc etc.
That wasn't the way it was done "almost back in the day".

To be continued at a later date. Sly

R.

FWIW this is not a bump, or a DB cooper groupie travel log from a recent trip to forida.Crazy

I'm not complaining in any way. I sent the Green Hat a PM and told him what was going on and they allow it to continue. Cool

So whats good for the golden gooseWink

What time is it? Damn it's time to clock out and go homeSmile Hate posting on my own timeLaugh


MikeRipcord  (C 8021)

Oct 16, 2011, 5:04 PM
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Lottery????? I didn't even get a ticket. I was across the pond when that contest started, but they gave me a number there. The Big Red One. (2d Bn (Mech) 2d Inf) Dau Tieng and the Michelin.


MikeRipcord  (C 8021)

Oct 16, 2011, 5:16 PM
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Since we may have vets of a certain age and era reading this thread, listen up!!!!

The US VA has attributed ISCHEMIC HEART DISEASE to Agent Orange.

If you have heart problems get checked out, and if it shows disease FILE a CLAIM thru tour County Veteran Service Officer, The DAV, VFW American Legion etc.

The only burden of proof you have is that 1.) You served in Viet nam and 2.) You have ischemic Heart disease. (To my knowledge, approx 87% of all heart disease is Ischemic in nature.)


Krip  (Student)

Oct 16, 2011, 7:38 PM
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Hi Mike

And all vets and their families.

11/11/11 is veterans day this year.

I don't know what the odds are of this happening again, but I'm glad to have lived long enough to see it, and sorry for those vets that missed it.

R.


JerryBaumchen  (D 1543)

Oct 17, 2011, 6:44 PM
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Hi Krip,

Quote:
11/11/11 is veterans day this year.

And a number of companies are again doing freebies for vets; one being Applebee's which will be doing a free meal.

JerryBaumchen


Krip  (Student)

Oct 17, 2011, 8:09 PM
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Hi Krip,

Quote:
11/11/11 is veterans day this year.

And a number of companies are again doing freebies for vets; one being Applebee's which will be doing a free meal.

JerryBaumchen

Hi Mr Baumchen

Thanks for the reminder, I also carry a copy of my DD 214 in my wallet in case i stop by home depot or lowes, for their 10% dicount. Available 365 days/yr based on my personnel experience. If you askSly

FWIW there are some people I address as Mr, because they have earned my respect, your one of them.

But in the big picture showing my respect really doesn't mean squat except to Number one. MeWink

FWIW I stumbled on the 11/11/11 date by accident due to a Dr's appt. Enjoy the triple 11's on vets dayCool

R.


winsor  (D 13715)

Oct 18, 2011, 7:38 AM
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They're all here.


Krip  (Student)

Oct 18, 2011, 9:04 AM
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They're all here.

Hi Mr Winsor

Thanks for the linkSmile

Here's some more info

News coverage of the actual event, folks sure dressed funny back thenWink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVwUEABV9mg

And some info from wiki.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lottery_draft

Personally I don't think a draft would ever work again, no one would be able to pass a piss test Sly, and for some reason women are still exempt from even registering for the draftBlush.

IMO the draft system still needs some updateing.

R.

R.


popsjumper  (D 999999999)

Feb 13, 2012, 4:03 PM
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'69....#52

http://www.landscaper.net/...0of%20the%20Draw%22?

Home in Tampa being a hippie wannabe.


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popsjumper  (D 999999999)

Feb 13, 2012, 4:50 PM
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Tampa, Fl. '68/69
Sharing an apartment with my buddy, Gene, and being hippie wannabe’s.

We were getting close to being drafted so Gene came up with this grand plan to go to Canada. We told the landlady we were leaving; we had the water and electricity cut off and out bags packed.

Now here’s where I blame Gene for what happened to me the rest of my life. If it hadn’t been for him, my life would have been a lot different.

Gene: “Hey! Before we go, let’s hitchhike to Daytona for the weekend. We’ll come back here, pick up our stuff and head out to Canada”.
Me: “OK.”

So, Saturday morning we got out on I-4 and stuck our thumbs out and lo’ and behold, two beautiful young ladies pick us up in a cherry hot-rod ’68 Camaro. YES!

It turned out that one of the girls came from a family with money and they decided to take us all the way. And they did. They took us there, got the hotel, paid for everything and screwed the livin’ liquids out of us the entire weekend. We didn’t see much of the beach that weekend.

Sunday night we came back, the girls had to be in school on Monday. They took us to the apartment, gave a good flailin’ (one for the road, you know) and left their phone numbers in case we ever came back into town.

So far so good but here’s where my life took a quick left turn and I blame it all on Gene. If he hadn’t come up with the idea of going to Daytona, I would have lived a different life.

After a day of recuperation, Gene says, “OK, let’s head out to Canada.”

Now, I don’t know if you ever experienced something like this in your life and it sure got me in trouble. What I was thinking and what I was saying was two different things. I heard these words coming out of my mouth but it wasn’t me that was talking. It was Tally Whacker that said, “I’m staying here with the pussy!”

So… Gene leaves and establishes a great life for himself in Vancouver. I stayed and…
1. Got drafted
2. Got her pregnant
3. Got married
4. Went to Viet Nam
5. Got divorced
6. Became a real-life hippie after ETS
7. Became a DZ bum later.

So...Gene, if you’re out there…Fuck You!


Ahhh…but all’s well that ends well, eh?
Laugh


BIGUN  (D 23385)

Feb 15, 2012, 12:27 PM
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They're all here.

I'm a little late to this party.

I would have been number 333 in 1973's lottery for induction the following year in which I joined - 1974 (VOLAR)

While the draft ended in 1972, the lottery continued until 1975 for 1976 inductees.

http://www.sss.gov/lotter1.htm


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Krip  (Student)

Feb 15, 2012, 1:34 PM
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Hi Bigun

Three 3's That a very nice numberCool

Funny thing about the draft in the 21at century is women don't have to registerShocked Can anyone tell us why? I'm not whining, just confused.Unsure

All women can't serve just like all men can't serve, but register everyone in spite of gender, family connections, $$$ etc. Let the Dr's choose who is 1A.

I'd love to serve with Amazon. I could hide behind, in front of next to her. She's got the muscle to handle the big guns or just squeeze the life out of the Mcnasty's.Wink

I still remember one of our leaders saying something about women couln't stand in a foxhole filled with water up to a certain height.Crazy

I don't expect to see draft again. Even if they fix the gender thing.

Triple 3's beats the hell out of 3 cubedCool

Rant over.
66-70 USAF draft dodger enlisted swine.

R.

Who's the A hole that started This thread Me Me MeSly


Dust-It  (D 11320)

Feb 15, 2012, 4:34 PM
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1970 mine was 280 a day earlier would have ben 14.
I was 1-A.The high number put me on a trip to Fl.
rather then Mexico.

BD Chuck


skyrider  (D 14710)

Mar 15, 2012, 10:49 AM
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I never had a SS number back then, and was traveling with the carnival, seems they didn;t know we existed, No tax records, no draft....

Thank You to all that did go though...My best friends survived it, Just to be killed by a drunk 6 months after getting home...


ripcordbk  (D 358)

Mar 19, 2012, 7:08 AM
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The lottery came well after I was discharged from the Navy, but I do have a story that may be of interest.

I have a relative that was 24 years old, married, a senior in college, with good grades when the Draft Board in Illinois called him in again. The Draft Board informed him that they had received a letter from his wife, stating that he and his wife were in the process of a divorce. The Draft Board yanked him out of college, and sent him to Nam.


JohnRich  (D License)

Mar 19, 2012, 3:39 PM
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I have a relative that was 24 years old, married, a senior in college, with good grades when the Draft Board in Illinois called him in again. The Draft Board informed him that they had received a letter from his wife, stating that he and his wife were in the process of a divorce. The Draft Board yanked him out of college, and sent him to Nam.

Something seems fishy with that story. If you were in college, that kept you out of the draft. Being married did not disqualify you from the draft. So getting divorced should have had no effect on his draft status. And being in college should have made him exempt from being drafted.


ripcordbk  (D 358)

Mar 19, 2012, 6:01 PM
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The other key in the story was he would be 25 when he graduated. If memory serves me correctly, they couldn't draft you when you were 25.

I know the story to be true because I was there when it happened.


JohnRich  (D License)

Mar 20, 2012, 7:33 AM
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I know the story to be true because I was there when it happened.

I was married with a one-month old baby when I got my draft notice, so marriage didn't make you exempt. Therefore, his divorce should have had no bearing on the reason why he was drafted.

I was also in college but dropped out to work and support the wife and kid. As long as I was in college, I was safe. When I dropped out, they snagged me.

That story doesn't add up compared to my experience. I don't know what the explanation is for that...


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Krip  (Student)

Mar 20, 2012, 12:17 PM
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Hi JR

It's the gov't so you never know.Shocked

Pre Lottery: AFAIK the draft boards are local so they have their own Board members and "fish barrel" so maybe YMMV.

Post lottery:

My dentist and his office partner, both had lottery numbers in the mid 30's while in college. They never got the letter.

Talked with one guy that heard about a state that had open slots in the national guard and signed up with them.Cool

So many fish, so many rules, so many variablesCrazy

R.


steve1  (D 23640)

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I was 1-A after a tip to Butte in the Spring of 1969. I figured I was too broke to go to college. I was gun-ho back then. I gave the Marine Corps a look. I hunted all Fall, and I needed a job and a home. It was in Oct. when I joined something called the Special Forces National Guard. My old scout master sweet talked me into joining. I found out later that the draft board was in the process of drafting me. Two more weeks and they would have had me.

I didn't really know what Special Forces was all about. I knew they all wore this fancy green hat. I figured I'd look cool in one of those.

When I figured out my orders, I realized this wasn't going to be much fun, and that I might not measure up. I might never earn a full flash on my beret.

First there was basic and infantry training at Ft. Polk. We had these old WWII baracks that you froze your rear off in. Then there was the rains that never seemed to quit that winter. Most of the DI's took delight in making you as miserable as possible.

Jump School was a pick-nick after that. I even enjoyed Georgia in comparison to Louisiana.

Then we rolled into Ft. Bragg. They had these really nice brick barracks on Smoke Bomb hill. I was rough and tough back then. Camp Mckall was pretty miserable. Never enough sleep, ten mile runs, not enough food, crotch rot, and athletes foot. It all took it's toll. But heh, I made it through.

Then I started weapons training. I always liked guns. I kind of liked that. You'd shoot ammo, till it made you sick of shooting. I about ruined my ears one day in heavy weapons training. I forgot my ear plugs. I didn't want to flunk out for being stupid, so I never told anybody.

The last phase of training was kind of a killer. You were cross trained in the different MOS's. There were classified classes at JFK Center for Special Warfare. Night equipment jumps out into the boonies. I kind of thrived on much of that training. One of the hardest parts of that training was Method of Instruction Week. You had to get up in front of a large group of soldiers and teach some classes. The thought of that scared the crap out of me. Hell, I was so shy that I couldn't even give a book report in High School...but I wasn't going to quit.

When we graduated, everyone was given E-5. There was only two of us that were N.G.'s. When I went up to get my diploma the band started to play. They also started up again when this other National Guardsman walked up to get his diploma. That was supposed to have been a joke.

Being a National Guardsmen then wasn't popular back then. Most of my classmates would be fighting over in Nam, in a few short months. I couldn't fault any of them for being pissed. I was headed home the following week.

It felt good to walk through Ohare Airport, with my green beret and jump boots. I must have looked like a 16 year old kid. I felt like I was ten feet tall.

What a let down it was to come home to my home National Guard Unit. It was a real joke. Noone took the guard drills seriously. I found out later that most of these soldiers had flunked out of SF training. I should have gone back on active duty. Instead I stuck it out for six years and got out. We got to jump every couple months, and that was fun, but most of it was a big waste of time. Guardsmen weren't sent to Viet Nam.

I don't think the numbering process started till 1970. I was on active duty by then....

If I had it to do over again, I would have stayed on active duty. I'll agree with anyone who says the National Guard was a joke, back then.


RobertMBlevins

Apr 2, 2012, 1:47 PM
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I was #123 for the 1974 lottery, which was never used to call anyone up anyway, because the authority to induct had actually expired the previous year.

But I joined the Army anyway, in May of 1975...as soon as that damn war was over. Ended up serving at Fort Lost in the Woods, Misery.

Talk about your boring jobs. Instead of going off to Germany as promised, they left me at the same place I took Basic and AIT. Then...they assigned me to a Basic Training company right up the street from the one where I trained.

64-C 30. My main duties were driving lunch out into the field for trainees, and pulling CQ overnights. My main job on CQ was lying to the sergeant's wife about where he was when she called. He was usually out with another girl at the EM club, or shacked up for the night over in Waynesville. Crazy

The only good thing about that duty was we had access to the Arms room and plenty of shooting range time and almost no limit on certain types of ammo...especially for the M-16. Wink

Even though I'm classified as a Vietnam-Era vet, the closest I ever got to a jungle was that palm tree plant sitting in the corner at our company quarters.


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Krip  (Student)

Apr 2, 2012, 4:02 PM
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Hi Robert

Did you have to enlist for 3 yr's for the "promise" of germany?

Did you use the G.I. Bill? That could almost make duty at Ft Leonard Wood bearable. In spite of the heat,humidity, chiggers, ticks hillbilly's etc.Frown

Small world we went to MU in Coulumbia MO on the G.I. bill and graduated one yr before you almost got to go to Germany.Smile

BFIF. Thank you for your serviceWink

BTW do you think it's time to pull the plug on the DB Cooper thread? I don't think there's going to be any thing of value from that thread except more PA's, bitching, and hard feelings.

R.


oldwomanc6

Apr 2, 2012, 7:50 PM
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BTW do you think it's time to pull the plug on the DB Cooper thread? I don't think there's going to be any thing of value from that thread except more PA's, bitching, and hard feelings.

R.
They should leave it up forever. If they do away with it, the rest of us would have to listen to them all the time.

Not only that, the mods would be just as busy saying let DB R.I.P. Tongue


Krip  (Student)

Apr 2, 2012, 9:18 PM
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BTW do you think it's time to pull the plug on the DB Cooper thread? I don't think there's going to be any thing of value from that thread except more PA's, bitching, and hard feelings.

R.

They should leave it up forever. If they do away with it, the rest of us would have to listen to them all the time.

Not only that, the mods would be just as busy saying let DB R.I.P. Tongue
Hello Nice Lady

Thanks for the momentaty chance to knock "that" thread from the top of the forumCool

Resistance is futileCrazy Mr Hooper got at least a warning for siggesting that "the thread" be moved to its own forumShocked

In a wierd sort of way the thread is some kind of a statement about human nature. It started with the best intentions and now for whatever reason it is what it is. IMO much worse than speakers corner.

If you got a second check out the last two pages at any time.Crazy Then check out the first post in the threadUnsure

BTW how did you guess my DZ nicknameShocked


RobertMBlevins

Apr 2, 2012, 10:01 PM
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Hi Robert

Did you have to enlist for 3 yr's for the "promise" of germany?

Did you use the G.I. Bill? That could almost make duty at Ft Leonard Wood bearable. In spite of the heat,humidity, chiggers, ticks hillbilly's etc.Frown

Small world we went to MU in Coulumbia MO on the G.I. bill and graduated one yr before you almost got to go to Germany.Smile

BFIF. Thank you for your serviceWink

BTW do you think it's time to pull the plug on the DB Cooper thread? I don't think there's going to be any thing of value from that thread except more PA's, bitching, and hard feelings.

R.

Yes, I got a promise for Germany. It wasn't like today's army, more like Stripes or something, or Catch 22. Post-Nam, pre-Grenada. Morale at an all time low, drugs and drinking in mass quantities, etc. I played it straight, but there were plenty who didn't.

I used my GI Bill to go to community college because I didn't feel like getting a regular job. Cool I took Speech and Communications and spent half the day spinning records at the college radio station - for credit. I earned extra cash on one of those Financial Aid Office work-study jobs.

DB Cooper thread? It's pretty trashed lately. I don't think they should shut it down, though. I know the outside traffic to that thread is high. The Google Ads alone probably pay the server bills.


Krip  (Student)

Apr 2, 2012, 10:37 PM
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In reply to:
Hi Robert

Did you have to enlist for 3 yr's for the "promise" of germany?

Did you use the G.I. Bill? That could almost make duty at Ft Leonard Wood bearable. In spite of the heat,humidity, chiggers, ticks hillbilly's etc.Frown

Small world we went to MU in Coulumbia MO on the G.I. bill and graduated one yr before you almost got to go to Germany.Smile

BFIF. Thank you for your serviceWink

BTW do you think it's time to pull the plug on the DB Cooper thread? I don't think there's going to be any thing of value from that thread except more PA's, bitching, and hard feelings.

R.

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Yes, I got a promise for Germany. It wasn't like today's army, more like Stripes or something, or Catch 22. Post-Nam, pre-Grenada. Morale at an all time low, drugs and drinking in mass quantities, etc. I played it straight, but there were plenty who didn't.

Booze was always a problem even in the 60's,
Drugs well we were in the air force didn't really see it.
Morale? YMMV depending on the job. Think
Draftee's, Air force draft dodgers etc and lots of army and marines getting hurtPirate

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I used my GI Bill to go to community college because I didn't feel like getting a regular job. Cool I took Speech and Communications and spent half the day spinning records at the college radio station - for credit. I earned extra cash on one of those Financial Aid Office work-study jobs.

Did the same to build up my GPA then moved on to MU for my last two yr's.
G.I. Bill was $175/mo even had enough $$ keft over to jump every weekend. Best time in my life. College women and jumping I think the last yr we got a raise to $225/mo We maxed out the G.I. bill even went to summer school (we needed it)Tongue

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DB Cooper thread? It's pretty trashed lately. I don't think they should shut it down, though. I know the outside traffic to that thread is high. The Google Ads alone probably pay the server bills.

Thanks for your candor I thought there had to be a reason that made senseCool Let the good time rollTongue

R.


popsjumper  (D 999999999)

Apr 25, 2012, 3:46 PM
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I won the lottery!

I won:
-free clothes
-free food
-free lodging
-free health care
-free dental care
-free schooling
-free travel

WooooHoooo!


steve1  (D 23640)

Apr 26, 2012, 8:26 AM
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And don't forget all the big money you could make as a new recruit. As an E-1 private I was nocking down $93. a month. That was Nov. 1969. That didn't stretch very far, even then.Unsure

It was really fun being spit on for serving your country back then.Mad

I'd better quit. I'm getting depressed just thinking about it.


JohnRich  (D License)

Apr 26, 2012, 9:54 AM
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And don't forget all the big money you could make as a new recruit. As an E-1 private I was nocking down $93. a month. That was Nov. 1969.

I got lucky and they doubled the pay scale just before I was drafted/joined in 1972 - a whopping $180 per month - with rent to pay, and a wife and child to support!

I found a two room shack to rent for $75, which left me a whole $105 to pay for food, car, gas and electricity.


Andy9o8  (D License)

Apr 28, 2012, 2:59 PM
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And don't forget all the big money you could make as a new recruit. As an E-1 private I was nocking down $93. a month. That was Nov. 1969. That didn't stretch very far, even then.Unsure

It was really fun being spit on for serving your country back then.Mad

I'd better quit. I'm getting depressed just thinking about it.

Don't be. Some things are not missing, they're just late.

Despite my moderate-to-liberal leanings, I've thanked my dad and my uncle to their faces for their service during WW2. As far as I'm concerned, they gave me, and my children, our lives (and I don't mean biologically).

So, Steve, and all of the rest of you in this thread: Thank you.


(This post was edited by Andy9o8 on Apr 28, 2012, 3:01 PM)



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