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New AAD from Altimaster ??

 


Dumpster  (D 27314)

Feb 16, 2011, 9:31 AM
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HEard a rumor that Altimaster has or will be introducing a new AAD? Anybody know more? I didn't find anything on thier website....

DBlank  (C 39191)

Feb 16, 2011, 10:59 AM
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Saw this picture on someones Facebook from what I assume is the DZO conference, less info that what is on the website other than being able to make out the activation altitude at the bottom (1475ft).

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/...021334_2142716_n.jpg

Premier DSE  (D 29060)
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Feb 16, 2011, 11:15 AM
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you'll see an interview with Roger and Sandy on the PIA channel. Should be up shortly.
IMO, this is "best of show."
15,000 hours or 15,000 jumps before maintenance of any kind.
999.00 retail.
Several algorithms, easy menus, offsets of up to 2995', user-replaceable cutter. CYPRES just might have a run for their money.

Dumpster  (D 27314)

Feb 16, 2011, 11:33 AM
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I'm just about ready to plunk down for a new AAD....(Cypres2).
Wish there was some more info and details about availablilty, etc !!

Premier DSE  (D 29060)
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Feb 16, 2011, 11:48 AM
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I was gonna plunk down for CYPRES 2's as well (need two new AADs for student rigs). But...I'm *really* glad to see these M2's.
they have a decade + of testing in military applications, so I like that, too. So....now am on the fence. Going back to talk to Roger more today about waterproof, etc.

Premier Remster  (C License)

Feb 16, 2011, 11:56 AM
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In reply to:
you'll see an interview with Roger and Sandy on the PIA channel. Should be up shortly.
IMO, this is "best of show."
15,000 hours or 15,000 jumps before maintenance of any kind.
999.00 retail.
Several algorithms, easy menus, offsets of up to 2995', user-replaceable cutter. CYPRES just might have a run for their money.

Is that 15,000 hours on "on" time? Or something else?

GLIDEANGLE  (D 30292)

Feb 16, 2011, 1:11 PM
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Imagine the future... an Alti-2 AAD talking to an Alti-2 N3Audio. Rather than just a tone at "dirt alert" level you could actually have the AAD trigger a voice alarm ..... "EMERGENCY! EMERGENCY! AAD firing now!".

The "emergency" warning might prompt action in time to prevent an AAD fire. If not, the "AAD firing now" might be a help to identify a two-out situation early. I don't know for sure... just musing here.

Perhaps too many words is a bad idea at that point in a skydive gone bad. I would have to give that some thought.

Interesting potential to think about. It is sort of like the communication between the airbags, the GPS, and radio on vehicles with "On-Star".

Dumpster  (D 27314)

Feb 16, 2011, 1:19 PM
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What I heard was something like 15 years or 15,000 jumps? And competively priced. I mean, I wish I know how much and how soon I can order it, I am really dying to get my rig back together in time for Safety Day. I'd like to learn as much as possible before investing $$, but still.....

happychick  (C License)

Feb 16, 2011, 7:07 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/user/VASSTTraining#p/u/2/4jK9c1wvO9k

I'd like to know if you need to turn it on before each jump or if it shuts off after x number of hours?

spootch  (C License)

Feb 16, 2011, 9:39 PM
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In reply to:
I was gonna plunk down for CYPRES 2's as well (need two new AADs for student rigs). But...I'm *really* glad to see these M2's.
they have a decade + of testing in military applications, so I like that, too. So....now am on the fence. Going back to talk to Roger more today about waterproof, etc.


hey Spot, do you think you could ask em for access to a user manual for it? online perhaps?

IanHarrop  (C 1152)

Feb 16, 2011, 10:22 PM
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A link to the manufacturers site, Alti-2 will be distributing it:
http://www.marsjev.cz/...ucts/n-1.htm?lang=en

antonija

Feb 16, 2011, 11:14 PM
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Quote:
The safety device m2 provides automatic opening of the safety parachute in cases where safety of the parachutist is in danger.
That is some seriously bad wording for US market...

Premier parachutist  (D 25468)

Feb 17, 2011, 12:10 AM
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Expected to be available in June is what I was told today at PIA. Yes it turns off after 14 hours according to the rep

piisfish

Feb 17, 2011, 12:14 AM
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In reply to:
A link to the manufacturers site, Alti-2 will be distributing it:
http://www.marsjev.cz/...ucts/n-1.htm?lang=en
So it is not an Altimaster, but a MARS.
Seems interesting for cost. Would the technology be the same as in the MPAAD ? Just the "look" is new ? or is the whole technology inside brand new ?

Mr.B  (B License)

Feb 17, 2011, 4:01 AM
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In reply to:
Seems interesting for cost. Would the technology be the same as in the MPAAD ? Just the "look" is new ? or is the whole technology inside brand new ?
MPAAD is "all in one" type of device (meaning - central unit, cutter and control unit are all in one box), so I think it's a bit more than just a new looks ;) At least the cutter must be a completely different design.


cheers,
Bart ;)

Premier Remster  (C License)

Feb 17, 2011, 6:39 AM
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They "reconfigured" the unit for sport jumping. I'll let other others test jump the reconfigured, and standard swooper friendly algorithm.

Dokeman  (D License)

Feb 17, 2011, 7:27 AM
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After all the problems with neptunes.. No Thanks!

theonlyski  (D 31594)

Feb 17, 2011, 7:39 AM
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After all the problems with neptunes.. No Thanks!

They're not making them, just distributing them.

davelepka  (D 21448)

Feb 17, 2011, 7:46 AM
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They're not making them, just distributing them

Ok then, after all the problems with the Vigil and Argus, no thanks (at least not for a couple years).

theonlyski  (D 31594)

Feb 17, 2011, 7:52 AM
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They're not making them, just distributing them

Ok then, after all the problems with the Vigil and Argus, no thanks (at least not for a couple years).

Don't get me wrong, I won't be running out and buying one of them for a while, I was just pointing out that they're not the ones making them.

spootch  (C License)

Feb 18, 2011, 1:04 PM
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Thanx IanSmile

skimming through, they have an interesting washer for the loop (doesn't need a knot in it)Shocked

mjosparky  (D 5476)

Feb 19, 2011, 8:50 AM
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Thanx IanSmile

skimming through, they have an interesting washer for the loop (doesn't need a knot in it)Shocked

But it needs a road map to thread.

Sparky

Skycow  (D 18270)

Feb 21, 2011, 10:05 AM
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Hi All,

Many of the questions asked have been answered, but I just wanted to make sure that all is clear. Alti-2 is the exclusive importer of the M2...not the manufacturer. The manufacturer is MarS, a Czech company. MarS has been manufacturing AADs for the Czech military for over a decade and the M2 has been in design for approximately 3 years.

The feature characteristics are as follows:

15 year or 15,000 jumps (20 min per jump) batter life.

No routine maintenance

Changeable cutter

Water proof - 6' for 1 hour (changeable water filter)

Expert, student or tandem modes available in feet or meters

Retail cost - $999

We will be publishing more detailed information on our website in a matter of weeks...all documentation is currently being translated as original documentation is in Czech.

We are currently taking orders from our dealers, but the units will not start shipping until early Summer.

Please feel free to email me at Alti-2 with any other questions.

Sandy Bobo (sandy@alti-2.com)
Marketing Manager

Alti-2, Inc

pchapman  (D 1014)

Feb 21, 2011, 10:46 AM
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MarS's website only has a short English description, but a little more in the Czech version.

Run thru Google Translate, it becomes:

http://translate.google.com/...vyrobky%2Fm2-aad.htm

whoops  (D 2600)

Mar 20, 2011, 1:56 PM
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this M2 isnt multimode system and isnt MPAAD remake
coolest feature is algoritm how close you were to activate your M2 in percent 999 means - YOU MOTHERF... STOP OR DIE
another thing is 15000jmps (300000 mins = 5000hrs = 208days permanent work) or 15 yrs...
i have my Vigil in rig so no problem with AAD, but in other case ...

g3ninfinite  (A 56501)

Feb 23, 2012, 12:55 AM
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Any new info on this?

mchamp  (D 32129)

Feb 23, 2012, 2:01 AM
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If you really really want it from what I know it's currently available in Europe.

The only thing that is keeping it coming to the U.S from what I understand is the approval from the rig manufacturers. I've heard that this approval is going to be quite difficult after the argus incident and all.

If you're in the market for a new AAD I'd suggest buying a Vigil or Cyrpes as there's no telling when it'd be released/approved here

skydiverek  (C 840)

Feb 23, 2012, 5:29 AM
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You can buy one in Poland since June 2011:

http://wingstore.aero/mars/808-m2-aad.html

rifleman  (Student)

Feb 23, 2012, 8:12 AM
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Just compared the dimensions of both the CYPRES and the M2 from the user manuals. Info listed below:

CYPRES


Processing Unit 85 x 43 x 32 mm
Control Unit 65 x 18 x 6.5 mm
Cutter 43 x 8 mm dia

Mars M2


Processing Unit 85 x 45 x 23 mm
Control Unit 63 x 18 x 5 mm
Cutter 58 x 8 mm dia

Users manual in english can be found here:

http://www.marsjev.cz/...-1/n-11.html?lang=en

video of cutter test here:

http://www.facebook.com/....php?v=2547748207680


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