Nov 20, 2010, 1:53 PM
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I know you cannot enforce such behavior. It sounds nice on paper, though it's akin to saying a ban on all guns will remove gun related crime. The people you are trying to change will continue to live outside the rule and the manpower to enforce such things is unavailable.
A discussion needs to occur regarding the Group Membership in its entirety. Do DZ's belong in the USPA or maybe at PIA or their own industry association? Who are we representing, the jumper or the business? Long before I started jumping DZ's had become less of clubs with instruction and more and more what is refered to in its extreme case as a "tandem factory". Does a "Tandem Factory" deserve the funds from the Airport Access Defense coffers? Do the desires of the business interfere with the desires of the members at the USPA level? These are the questions that need be discussed, not how to strong-arm a business owner into having ethics.
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Nov 21, 2010, 4:52 PM
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IMO, if we do not support the business, ie. tandem business, the sport will die. The costs to jump WILL go up without tandems. I for one do not desire a bunch of private clubs with mostly Cessna jump planes, with the occasional Caravan. It has to support the business as well as the individual jumper.
Dec 5, 2010, 2:07 PM
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OK I need to apologize on this point:
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3. He flies jumpers w/out commercial licence, totally irresponsible.
Apparently he managed to cheat on the tests and get his commercial omnibus and such. Hence substitute with:
3. Abbie's gaY;, only christian priests share such privilege all others must like pUSSy, hence totally anti-christian behavior on his part and definitely against a christian country and association.
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Dec 7, 2010, 2:23 PM
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OK I need to apologize on this point:
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3. He flies jumpers w/out commercial licence, totally irresponsible.
Apparently he managed to cheat on the tests and get his commercial omnibus and such. Hence substitute with:
3. Abbie's gaY;, only christian priests share such privilege all others must like pUSSy, hence totally anti-christian behavior on his part and definitely against a christian country and association.
wow, you really put a lot of effort in badmouthing him. he must have something that you wish to have yourself. i feel very sorry for you :-(
Feb 4, 2011, 10:39 PM
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Thanks Abbie, for giving your time and opinions. They were obviously well thought out. People who care, and run for office, to better the community, never lose. 1345 votes.....Good Job. Abbie Mashaal 2012 ?
Feb 4, 2011, 11:01 PM
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Great thoughts, how many who complain put them selves out there to the scrutiny of so called "Peers"? Good on ya Abbie for giving it a try. Never quit until you've taken your last breath!
Feb 5, 2011, 6:40 PM
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I know you cannot enforce such behavior. It sounds nice on paper, though it's akin to saying a ban on all guns will remove gun related crime. The people you are trying to change will continue to live outside the rule and the manpower to enforce such things is unavailable.
A discussion needs to occur regarding the Group Membership in its entirety. Do DZ's belong in the USPA or maybe at PIA or their own industry association? Who are we representing, the jumper or the business? Long before I started jumping DZ's had become less of clubs with instruction and more and more what is refered to in its extreme case as a "tandem factory". Does a "Tandem Factory" deserve the funds from the Airport Access Defense coffers? Do the desires of the business interfere with the desires of the members at the USPA level? These are the questions that need be discussed, not how to strong-arm a business owner into having ethics.
Feb 7, 2011, 10:38 AM
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10 reasons why I hate Abbie and why he should not be an USPA director:
1. He's a son of Abraham, he has not accepted jesus as his savior, he would kill his mom for a penny. We are a nation of christians, go back in the desert.
2. He does that base jumping thing, we're skydivers out of airplanes, that base stuff is crazy and anti-christian.
3. He flies jumpers w/out commercial licence, totally irresponsible.
4. He has promiscuous sex with women, sex should only be used for procreation, totally anti-christian behavior.
5. He has lots of body hair, USPA directors should have smooth hairless chests.
6. He smokes that weed substance, christans are drunks, drop the pipe and start sucking on the bottle. Pot is a schedule I drug, the most dangerous of all drugs known to peoplekind.
7. He's a libertarian, as americans we no longer believe in life, freedom, and the pursuit of happiness.
8. He does not like wind tunnels, we all know that to be a skygod you need at least 100,000 hrs on the tunnel.
9. Most of his friends are worse than him, look at your friend to know yourself.
10. He loves his dog, dogs don't accept jesus as their savior and they are doomed to go to hell, hence Abbie will go to hell, we need heavenly directors not hell beasts.
Feb 8, 2011, 10:47 AM
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I believe the USPA as a whole pretty much frowns on 8 year olds skydiving even if they are your own kids.
At the time that occurred, he broke no rules.
And nobody that I know of has stepped up and said that they paid Snake River Skydiving for a jump while Abbie was the pilot in command. So that is all hear-say and has absolutely no bearing anymore, since Abbie has his commercial ticket.
Plus I never directly said that M. Mullins disregarded USPA regulations. I said the USPA frowned on children skydiving.
Feb 9, 2011, 6:38 PM
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Thank you everybody for your support and the voting, whichever way your vote went.
1345 votes... Amazing! I was honored when I received the call with the results. As a first time candidate without all the connections and history some of the other names have, this tells me my stance resonates with a number of jumpers out there.
Look for my name on the ballots again 2012. We will not give up.
Thank you to so many people for your comments, many of them have been printed and hung on my office wall.
I'll be at PIA this coming week I look forward to running into many of you there!
