LouDiamond (D 25931)
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REVIEW: BoneHead REVOLVE Helmet
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Just a heads up on a new helmet that will be hitting the streets here shortly. I've been wearing BoneHead's latest helmet, the REvolve and am quite pleased with it. The Revolve is an evolution of the HAVOC and a few new ideas.
So you're thinking that this is just another full face helmet, what can be different right? Well for starters this IS and IS NOT a full face helmet. Meaning you have the option of being able to remove the face shield from this helmet and use it like any other open face helmet, it is 2 helmets in one. Simply remove the 2 cotter pins on the hinges inside the helmet and the ladder strap screw and you have an open face helmet. Another great feature is that unlike other full face helmets, there is an unobstructed view of your mouth and a wider peripheral view. What this means is that you can talk to others and they can see your lips. This comes in really handy when coaching in the tunnel or simply talking to someone else in the door. I don't have a face shield with anti-fog treatment on it as it's a prototype but unless you are a prolific mouth breather, as in hyperventilating, fogging isn't an issue as I have had none while using the helmet.The wider peripheral vision of the cut of the face shield gives you a field of view that makes you forget that your wearing a helmet.
So how does it fit? Well like all BoneHead helmets, it can be custom padded by you and baked to fit your head. Because this helmet is supposed to leave your mouth exposed, you have to pad it properly to fit your head, otherwise it will slide on your head and cover your bottom lip. After a few minutes of tinkering, I had the padding set up inside the helmet so that it fit me snugly and didn't shift on my head. This is actually pretty important as an improperly padded helmet will move around on your head.
So how does it work? To open the face shield, there is a detent on the ladder strap that you must push down to allow the face shield to rotate up. This takes a good deal of pressure and a bit of learning to find the detent on the first go around. The detent is also very stiff when new so you have to use it before it becomes easier to manipulate. The production models may/might have a different detent configuration than that seen in the pictures as what you see is a prototype. What this means is that there is absolutely no way your face shield is going to accidentally fly open or that a blow to the head on exit could dislodge it. To close it, just pull it down and it locks in place automatically.The helmet has a typical under chin strap but with a properly fitted and padded helmet it is next to impossible to remove the helmet when the face shield is in the down position. The other nice thing about the helmet is that it gives you full cranial coverage on the back of your head. Most full face helmets lack any shell coverage at the base of your skull due to the cord cinch systems they typically use to hold the helmet on your head. Of course it has the usual audible pockets/slots inside the helmet.
How does it fly? I've been using the REvolve for just under 20 hours now in the wind tunnel doing both RW (belly) and FFing in every imaginable orientation. The wide field of view really does make it feel like I don't have a helmet on. The exposed mouth has helped me communicate better with others in the tunnel when conveying instructions along with hand and arm signals. In fact, I have been using less hand and arm signals and have simply been talking. For back flying, sit flying, head down, etc, it works wonderfully, no wind creeps into the shell through the top of the shield edge like it does on some full face helmets. The helmet weighs no more than a typical full face helmet, although I haven't actually weighed it.
If you want a open face and a full face helmet but don't want to buy 2 separate helmets or you don't want to carry 2 different helmets in your luggage, this might be the ideal helmet for you.
(This post was edited by LouDiamond on Aug 19, 2010, 4:14 PM)
I also want to point out that this helmet is available in three different shell sizes for those of you with really large heads and is able to accommodate glasses. We've added a mounting surface for ContourHD on the left side as well.
I've been really pushing that and we'll have a mount for the GoPro shortly after its release. Mr. Boss-man just needs some time to perfect that mount, ya know? Not to worry, we're on it!!
How is the ladder strap secured? From the photos it looks like it's just the one bolt at the back, so I'm assuming that it's just floating in the channel over the top. Does this mean that flexing in the ladder strap can allow the visor to rattle up and down, or is there perhaps tension in the hinges to limit this? Maybe it would be easier if I could see one but at the moment I'm imagining that a force applied to the visor from beneath the chin would lift the visor and flex the ladder strap on top by some amount.
Are they already released, or if not, when are they expected to be released into production?
How is the visor replaced? I haven't looked at how the havoc works, but I'm assuming that there are just some screws and/or clips in the helmet body to allow replacement of the clear plastic visor.
I wanted to ask a question...I know my question isn't about the new helmet...(which looks very cool by the way...) but I forgot to bake my liner...how much of a change will I notice if I decide to bake it regarding the fit...(which in my opinion is already very nice)
Thanks for answering in advance...
Edit to add: The helmet I currently have ia s BH Mamba
(This post was edited by regulator on Aug 20, 2010, 10:57 AM)
Brettski - There's a screw in the front that you can't see when closed. This is the main screw which carries the load during a chin strike. The screw on top actually just serves as a pin which secures the aft part of the ladder strap. This only carries a small load from pulling the visor down and it also allows you to remove the visor without any tools. To remove the visor, you just pull back the top liner and pop the ladder strap off the pin from inside then remove two cutter pins.
The point of the overkill ladder strap is to hold front half of the helmet on. A small pin like used on the Mamba would work but with the Mamba it only needs to hold a light frame down. We made that improvement on the REvolve because it needs to hold the whole front portion on during a hit.
It'll be released and on our website for sale next week.
The anti-fog lens can be easily replaced, it's held down by two screws.
Amazon - Rattling in the Havok was due mainly to design. There's only one way to find out how well the REvolve handles 300++! I'll PM you.
BIRDDOCTOR - I'll post some pictures of it without the visor as soon as I have 'em.
Regulator - Are you having any issues with the fit? If it fits well the baking isn't necessary. I never baked the liner in my Mamba and the fit is perfect.
Just so you all know, we're looking for ideas for mounting the GoPro. There's a post in the video forum and more opinions are needed. Here's your chance to get in on the design process. Cheers
Crap...i just saw you already have a helmet called Halo. I think calling the revolve Halo would be more fitting, looks just like the helmet from the game.
I don't have any pictures of a colored REvolve but our colors can be viewed on our website. They're the same colors that we use for our other helmets, so if you've seen any Bonehead in yellow or navy blue that's pretty much how it will look.
...if you've seen any Bonehead in yellow or navy blue that's pretty much how it will look.
Yes, excellent point. I didn't think of that. Work has fried my brain this week!
Thanks for the quick response. Right now the plan is to get my DZ's feedback this weekend on my potential purchase. Hopefully BH will have an order from me next week!
I also want to point out that this helmet is available in three different shell sizes for those of you with really large heads and is able to accommodate glasses. We've added a mounting surface for ContourHD on the left side as well.
Are these shipping yet? Last time I talked to someone there, they said it would be 4 to 6 weeks for delivery. My season will be over by then. I was pretty excited about this helmet!
I just wanted to add a few things now that I have jumped the helmet a few times.
It's very comfortable, although it's a bit hot in the sun. I wouldnt change anything about the lining though. It's incredibly comfortable. I have a large shell with the medium liner, and it's extremely well fitting. My head measures around 22 1/8", which says small on their charts, but the medium is perfect, and is borderline too tight. I definitely wouldn't want it any tighter, but thats good in my book.
On my first jump, my head most definitely felt heavier than with the open face pro tec i was using as part of student gear. I noticed this the first jump, but didn't seem to notice it on any other jumps after. The visibility is exceptional. I can my handles perfectly. I love that whoever I'm jumping with can see my mouth clearly. If nothing else they can at least see the shit eating grin on my face when we stick the exit.
The ratchet mechanism works much better once it wears in some. Initially I opened and closed the visor over and over while watching tv for about 30 minutes. It really helped to make it easier to open with one hand. Initially it was a very tight and tough to open without using both hands, but now it's very quick and easy. My glasses fit perfectly under the revolve, and they are unaffected when I open or close the visor.
Thanks again to everyone at bonehead. They really went out of there way to help me out, and gave me a really great product.
GoPro says they are coming out with an LCD screen you can attach to the back. I'm hoping to share footage after a jump with friends just like the other camera guys...
At our DZ one of the guys bought a WDTV and they just plug the USB from the gopro/contour right into the WDTV. Then you can browse and play the clips on the TV just like you would on a PC. Works great. http://www.newegg.com/...22-136-472-_-Product
There a link to the "Live" version, but if you can find the normal version it's about 10 bucks cheaper but does not have the network streaming features.
Seems to work very well for the non LCD type cameras. It should play just about any camera format right off the camera (in theory)
(This post was edited by simon021 on Oct 4, 2010, 2:10 PM)
At our DZ one of the guys bought a WDTV and they just plug the USB from the gopro/contour right into the WDTV. Then you can browse and play the clips on the TV just like you would on a PC. Works great. http://www.newegg.com/...22-136-472-_-Product
There a link to the "Live" version, but if you can find the normal version it's about 10 bucks cheaper but does not have the network streaming features.
Seems to work very well for the non LCD type cameras. It should play just about any camera format right off the camera (in theory)
Yup, I have one of those, I plugged my CX-100 into it and played the videos right off of it.
I just ordered the REvolve and I am debating on selling my GoPro and buying the VHoldr.
I want to keep the GoPro because they are supposed to come out witht the CLD attachment. (any idea when that will come out?)
But I don't want to stop documenting my jumps because it won't fit my helmet...
I am looking forward to your mounting solution.
I just ordered the REVolve. I've used the Contour HD on lots of jumps using 3M Dual Lock. I will really like to see it mounted on the REVolve. Strange... I've not been this "jazzed" over a helmet before...
I received my helmet today after anxiously waiting! They told me it would take 6-8 weeks for production and then an additional 2 weeks for shipping. I received it in under 6 weeks thanks to their excellent efficiency. It is absolutely beautiful and such a solid design.
My helmet however fits my head but the moment the visor is closed it crushes my nose. I emailed them about my issue and very soon after I received a response by Linda determined to help me rectify the issue.
After explaining about the fact that my size is small according to the sizing chart and then sending pictures of it on my head, I received an email from Chris. He is replacing my helmet with a larger shell ensuring that it will fit and allowing me to keep the helmet I have in my possession already.
I am completely overwhelmed by their brilliant service and customer support. They are fantastic to deal with and I have never experienced such service like this before. I am so excited to receive my new REvolve which is one of the nicest helmets on the market.
I got my REvolve yesterday and I am going to jump it today! Very Excited.
My impressions so far... Built Great! When I got it the ratcheting mechanism was jammed into the top part and I couldn't get it down. I took most of it apart (thankfully a very simple process) and got it un jammed. I keep trying to recreate the situation but I haven't been able to. Just to be on the safe side I won't open it too hard to avoid this. I think it was a freak thing but I would hate to not be able to put it down as I am about to exit the plane...
I have a narrow head and so there is some space on either side by the ears/jaws. Because of this it jiggles / shifts a bit on my head. I contacted bonehead last night and got a response this morning. (I am amazed at how fast I got a response. Didn't expect to hear anything on a saturday.) They have shims to help with the fit and will send them to me next week. What amazing service!
The helmet does look a bit bulky but it looks a million times better than my pro-tec knock off that I have been using. I don't jump with my glasses but if I choose to the visor fits right over them with not problems at all.
It sounds very quiet but I will know for sure when I jump it. Of course anything is more quiet than the Protec knock off I was using... even if I did put tape over the ears...
I like it that you can see my whole face with the visor down. I think it is important to be able to see the jumper's face to get all the visual cues possible when jumping with others.
All 5 were sit-fly jumps. I imagine Sit Fly is the most challenging for a full face helmet since all the air comes from below. The REvolve did not dissapoint. I jumped with a heavier guy and I was in a stand a lot of the time going FAST!
I think I will love this helmet even more when I get the wedges to make it more snug on my head.
If only there were a mount for a GoPro... I will probably sell my GoPro and get the Contour now so I can fly a camera with this helmet.
I have to give a shout out to Bonehead for stand up service. I bought an XS Mamba that, after a few jumps, I just accepted that it was too big for my freakishly small head. I posted it on DZ.com to sell it. Naomi contacted me and offered to send me a REvolve to see if it fit better than my Mamba, and if so, keep the REvolve and send the Mamba back.
The REvolve fits my head nice and snug. The ratchet system is fantastic and I always have an easy time lifting the visor. Its awesome on the ride up to lift the front section up, much better than just lifting the visor on regular full faces, IMO. Peripheral vision is excellent with the visor down.
I love my new helmet and can't say enough about Bonehead customer service.
(This post was edited by TiaDanger on Oct 12, 2010, 12:40 PM)
With the full face it's pretty quite (compared to the protec I was wearing) I had to really modify the audible hole for my protrack, the helmet wasn't nearly as comfy after i stuck that thing in there. Once i finally got the hole big enough, it's much better now. It's uncomfortable for a few minutes when I first put the helmet on, but after the foam kinda settles in between my head, the protrack, and the helmet, then I can't even tell it's in till it beeps at 1000 ft.
I planned on jumping it with the visor removed, but I'm not sure if I'll get to it this season. Weather is making the downhill turn finally :(
Mine never had one. Maybe because it was a pre production and was probably shown around a bit or something and not just strait out of production right into the box.
I got my wedges and finally got out to jump it with a good fit. Thanks to bonehead for great service and getting me the wedges to make my helmet fit perfectly.
I had the same problem with my protrack. It is getting pushed really hard against my ear. I have to cut the hole bigger or something.
The only time I felt air leak under the chin is when I have to go into a stand and catch up to the fast fallers... Then there is just a little air coming in but nothing that bothers me. I used to have problems with my goggles when I went into a stand to catch up and would flip up.
I am much more confident when jumping with this helmet on.
Under canopy I can flip it open and feel the fresh air on my face. I can easily flip it back down if I feel like there is too much air...
I got my wedges and finally got out to jump it with a good fit. Thanks to bonehead for great service and getting me the wedges to make my helmet fit perfectly.
I had the same problem with my protrack. It is getting pushed really hard against my ear. I have to cut the hole bigger or something.
Hey!
Make sure that your audible isn't resting on top of the cotter pin. That should fix the problem. PM me if you need any help. Thanks!
Just so you all know, we're looking for ideas for mounting the GoPro. There's a post in the video forum and more opinions are needed. Here's your chance to get in on the design process. Cheers
yea.. i was thinking of the same setup. i sent bonehead and email asking about that setup. they said that they have seen the Drift on the net but the helmet was setup for the contour. so ill wait till i see how yours (starFlyer) works out.. :)
Doesn't look like it will be a problem. I think it's even easier then the Contour. How is the mounting side of that camera? Perfectly flat? or is there a thumb screw or something. You'll probably only need the side plate for the REvolve and some good Velcro and a couple straps of some sort. Looks like a cool camera.
Drift has a couple of videos on the HD170/X170 including one showing how to helmet mount the camera (see the 3rd one down at http://vimeo.com/channels/135990) - looks simple enough. Page 10 of their User Manual also show various mounting adaptors that come with the camera, see http://www.driftinnovation.com/HD170-Manual.pdf.
Question: The BoneHead site lists two different mounting plates.
Contour Side Mount ONLY - $40.00
Contour Rail AND Side Mount - $60.00
I expect I should still order and mount the camera to one of these plates. What's the difference between the "Side Mount ONLY" and "Rail AND Side Mount"? (Do I need just the Side Mount only? What does the "Rail and Side Mount" do differently?)
I got my wedges and finally got out to jump it with a good fit. Thanks to bonehead for great service and getting me the wedges to make my helmet fit perfectly.
I had the same problem with my protrack. It is getting pushed really hard against my ear. I have to cut the hole bigger or something.
I'll check this when I get home. I hadn't thought of the cotter pin being in the way. I would think I'd have noticed some scratches on my protrack, but it's pretty beat up to begin with :D
Thanks!
Hey!
Make sure that your audible isn't resting on top of the cotter pin. That should fix the problem. PM me if you need any help. Thanks!
My brand new REvolve full face helmet has just been tested under the most cold conditions I’ve ever jumped below 14k!
I would like to thank BH for providing me with one of the best skydiving helmets I’ve owned, since hat shop to factory diver, oxygen to Z1 and Mamba. God, it was cold! But REvolve just has some good new ideas that make it probably the best amongst the others.
Beginning with some extraordinary good padded inside cushions, that not only keep your ears warm and protected, but also provide excellent noise reduction during the way up. Oh!
Did I mentioned that we don’t have to take the helmet off?
Yes, that’s right, the full face helmet becomes totally clear face when the chin protection and visor comes all the way up! And that’s a major advantage when you need to agree on something inside the plane, especially with a RW team or even a student to brief. More advantages that might not be noticed unless you skydive often with a RW team trying to reach higher on points (going crazy sometimes) is the fact that the chin protection is one of the best and strongest I’ve tried. Yes, I’m the one that managed to destroy two flip up lens on the Z1 (nearly got myself blind on one with the broken slices of shredded glass/plastic!), on a hasty approach to tail’s boot(ies) in block 2 (I’m point, going around as close and fast as I can…) and also the Mamba’s visor got open twice on head to head bumps with OC.
Apart from all those improvements, REvolve looks tough and aggressive, the way I like a helmet to be, comfortable and easy to operate, has both sides pockets to hold your audible devices, a discrete chin strap with all the extras you need to personalize your head adjustments, an easy removable lock to release the visor which also locks automatically when lowering it (and that’s also a big advantage as you don’t have to worry much when getting ready to exit and just want to lower it on the last second…) and the most effective lens I’ve ever seen on skydiving helmets. Narrow, as in strong, easy to replace, only two attachment screws, huge field of view (that matters on RW, especially if you’re point and have to fly backwards all the time…) and did I mentioned comfort? Yes, I guess so.
No longer I have to go spitting or blowing my nose inside the helmet (yes, that’s disgusting, isn’t it?) after deploying the canopy. What about for landing and walking to the packing area? No longer having to carry the helmet on one hand, or just balancing it on the top of my head (risking letting him crash on the ground) or just for wasting time when on a back to back jump.
For all of that and for supporting our REvolving Atmosfera Portugal G4 TeamTHANK YOU VERY MUCH BONE HEAD!
Blue skies from the westernest country in Europe!
This review was made by João Henriques, my 4way team mate.
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What is the total weight of the helmet with and without the visor?
BH Composites- I believe you said you have to remove 2 cotter pins to remove the visor, correct? I was under the understanding that no tools were needed to remove the visor. And the cotter pins would wear out after a few times of taking this on and off wouldn't they? Not trying to be a skeptic at all I am very interested just curious before buying.
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What is the total weight of the helmet with and without the visor?
BH Composites- I believe you said you have to remove 2 cotter pins to remove the visor, correct? I was under the understanding that no tools were needed to remove the visor. And the cotter pins would wear out after a few times of taking this on and off wouldn't they? Not trying to be a skeptic at all I am very interested just curious before buying.
The helmet with/without the shield is comparable to the Pimp Daddy / a bit lighter than the Mamba weight wise. I find it to be very light for a full face, it's not a heavy helmet.
You don't need any tools, you can remove the pins from the inside of the helmet by hand. The cotter pins are not the ones I am guessing you are thinking of, BH uses "hair pin" cotter pins that look like THIS. They insert through the metal pin that holds the visor on. Unless you deform them intentionally, I highly doubt you would wear these out.
i just put in 4 jumps and 30 minutes in the tunnel with my new revolve and i didn't even notice it was there! no fogging...ever (so far.) extremely light, great quality, fits perfect, and the face shield flip up is a one finger job.
i also liked wearing earplugs with the provided/student helmets but always hated em once under canopy...this helmet cuts wind noise considerably so no more plugs for me!
i dont have much experience with SDing helmets but from experiencing average motorcycle helmets and top quality ones, i know what a 'run of the mil' helmet can do to your head at speed, and this helmet is like a knife through butter in the air. good job bonehead!
I definitely want one of these. I spoken to my instructor and confirmed its fine to wear open faced until I get my B licence. A couple of questions though:
How much would it be to get it to the UK (shipping, import duties etc)
How would returns work? A couple of people have mentioned the size guide is a bit off and I don't want to get stuck with an ill-fitting helmet on the wrong side of the atlantic.
got my new revolve a couple of days ago-its awsome, as expected after reading all the reviews. 2 things; 1- no anti fog coating(though from a couple of the reviews this doesn,t seem to be a biggie) 2- no instructions on how to take the face off. got the bit about the pins but even after unscrewing the front-top screw cant seem to get the ratchet of the ladder. any ideas?
Got mine on order.. i hear you guys are making these helmets as fast as you can ! it's going to take 4 weeks to get mine but im sure it will be worth the wait.. :)
got my new revolve a couple of days ago-its awsome, as expected after reading all the reviews. 2 things; 1- no anti fog coating(though from a couple of the reviews this doesn,t seem to be a biggie) 2- no instructions on how to take the face off. got the bit about the pins but even after unscrewing the front-top screw cant seem to get the ratchet of the ladder. any ideas?
Glad to hear you and others are enjoying it. Give the rep on your side of the pond a call and they will get you sorted on removing the face shield.
hey guys. still got 3 week before mine gets here but has anyone had any issues raising the front wearing sunglasses? i wear liquid's and wanting to know if they would catch or something.
I thought I'd post the REvolve visor instructions for those that may need it:
Please carefully follow the step by step instructions below in order to experience the helmet's design features to their fullest extent.
To Open: 1. Locate the ladder strap receiver mounted to the top of the face shield. 2. The release button on the receiver can be identified by three short grooves. 3. Push down on the three grooves to disengage the ladder strap and then rotate the visor back. 4. A slight tug down on the visor simultaneously while pushing down the release button may be required to help disengage the ladder strap.
To Close: 1. Pull down on the visor frame. 2. The release button is not required for this operation.
To remove the visor frame (no tools required): 1. Pull back each ear pad and remove the hairpin cotter pin from each clevis pin. 2. Remove the clevis pin and associated washers from the helmet and face-shield. 3. Pull back the rear portion of the top pad from inside the helmet. 4. A short portion of the ladder strap enters the helmet through a cut out slot and then rests over a pin. Using your finger tip or pick of some type, lift the ladder strap off the pin and slide it out of the helmet. 5. Push down the release button and slide the face-shield off the ladder strap. 6. Reinsert the ladder strap into the helmet and secure it back over the pin. This may required you to push it down onto the pin.
We suggest that you practice opening and closing the visor to become familiar with its operation prior to jumping.
We suggest that you practice opening and closing the visor to become familiar with its operation prior to jumping.
A bit of practice is very important.
(One guy at our DZ jumped his Revolve the first time and found he couldn't feel the latch through his gloves. No major problem, he just had to fly and land "visor down".)
Feeling the latch button through gloves can be tricky. Practice developing muscle memory to open the visor with either hand:
- Stroke from back to front with your thumb and middle fingers until you feel the top of the visor.
- Your index finger should now be almost directly over the latch (this is where practice and muscle memory come into play).
- Press down on the latch with your index finger, pull forward slightly on the visor to release, then lift the visor back.
About 10 minutes practice in gloves will make it easy to open the visor with either hand.
(This post was edited by StarFlyer on Jan 31, 2011, 6:53 PM)
hey guys. still got 3 week before mine gets here but has anyone had any issues raising the front wearing sunglasses? i wear liquid's and wanting to know if they would catch or something.
I personally haven't had a problem wearing my Liquids and the Revolve at the same time. They may be hard to put on if you already have the helmet on until the foam compresses to the contour of your face and is broken in a little. As far as opening and closing the face shield, no problems.
Got this helm from the post office Saturday. Haven't jump in it yet but if fits my head perfectly without any moves or rotates.
Somebody here wanted some pics of colored ReVolve... So, here they are... Enjoy.:)
Ahh, mine's yellow too! Looks great. It got a good workout this past weekend with about 2.75 hours in the tunnel doing some aggressive 4-way FS. I feel like I got good protection (took plenty of feet to the head hard, and, even got slammed pretty hard and took some paint off.) The visibility was really good. No problems with the design for FS work!
My hints... Keep the chinstrap tight to perfectly seal the airflow when on your belly. Also, the black "ladder strap" on top makes for perfect debriefing and catching your head switches... It does NOT lie on the video!
Question for anyone with a Revolve. I'm looking to upgrade, I have a Gunner and one of my beefs was the audible pocket was only accessable by pulling the foam pad off the velcro every time, to get at the back side audible pocket.
How does the REVOLVE audible pockets work? Can you get at it without removing padding, etc? I pull my Pro-Track out frequently to get look at the jump stats log or change altitude alerts.
I have been looking for an open face for sit flying since my havok tends to scoop a lot of air and rattle a bit. I am happy that I won't have to find extra room for a second brain bucket in my gear tote. Just ordered mine yesterday under the trade in program. Just wondering what the current delivery time is. Also like most everyone else I am waiting for a gopro mount. Any progress with the engineering?
i purchased the contour mount for my helmet, got it in 3 days. drilled 2 holes and boom this sucker is shootin video! with the helmet on my head and the camera on the mount, i got into an arch and had a buddy find where to drill the holes. the lasers on the contour that tell you where the camera is aiming make it too easy. havnt needed to adjust it after the initial mount.
(had to shrink the photo a bunch to get down to 300kb)
has anyone used the mounting plate with a Drift POV ? i am getting the Drift Stealth and my Revolve is on it's way but i didn't get the mount because im unsure about if it is even able to mount to the side.
I have been looking for an open face for sit flying since my havok tends to scoop a lot of air and rattle a bit. I am happy that I won't have to find extra room for a second brain bucket in my gear tote. Just ordered mine yesterday under the trade in program. Just wondering what the current delivery time is. Also like most everyone else I am waiting for a gopro mount. Any progress with the engineering?
Holding my breath...
I called Bonehead a couple days after ordering and, as I thought, they were backlogged and said that it would be 4-6 wks for delivery. You can imagine my surprise when I received an email with tracking number the next day (or two days later(crappy memory))!
FedEx delivered it today! I took it out of the packaging and began to inspect. Flawless! There are so many improvements over the Havok.
The first thing I noticed was the shell size. The Havok is a one shell for all sizes so it seemd rather large on me since I have a medium sized head. The REvolve, from what I am told comes in 4 shell sizes so it is much more low profile that the Havok. Mine came with extra liner inserts for all 3 pads. I tried it on and it felt a little loose on top of mu dome so I added the extra pad and it fit perfectly. My head measures the (22 1/2 inch if I remember correctly) max for the medium but head shape always a factor.
Audible ports are accessed through flaps so no need to pull out liner for insertion/removal. Threw in my soloII and tried it on again. No problems. Can hardly tell it's there.
Ladder strap is different than the old one and seems to have a stronger spring so the shield stays up with somewhat quick head movements. The Havok shield would tend to lower a few clicks when doing this.
As far as the GoPro is concerned, I can't seem to find a place to mount it where it can be used with shield in any position, without making a large snag point on the side of the helmet. The best option I was able to come up with is attaching it where the ladder strap lock is screwed to the face shield. It would be slightly forward of the lock mechanism to leave room for operation of the latch but the camera would not be facing forward with shield up. I'm thinking I will probably go with a Drift and save the GoPro for other uses.
The Havok was an innovation in the world of skydiving helmets and I loved it for what it was. The REvolve is the answer to most, if not all, of the issues that were found with that helmet over the years. Can't wait to jump it!
I jumped mine for the first time Saturday. Straight out the box the fit was perfect. With the face up it's very easy to get on and off just like any half shell. Freefall was great, noise about the same as the mamba. I jumped a few sit fly positions, back and belly. Threw in a few flips and it worked perfect. Under canopy it took 2 seconds to raise and have that nice wind in my face. Visibility is great. I plan on getting the camera mounting plate and putting a drift stealth on there and see how that works out. All I can say is that I am extremely happy with the helmet. It took about 5 weeks to get in but was worth the Wait. Good job Bonehead. Great helmet.
I took the plunge and ordered a Revolve helmet from BH. I was told to expect it mid-April, but it arrived, much to my delight, today.
I was jumping a Protec, which was fine, but I wanted the flexibility offered by the Revolve (full face or half-face). So, after wearing it around the house for much of the day, here is my very abbreviated review.
First, as you can see by the pictures, I ordered a red helmet. The color is excellent and really stands out. Neighbors who have seen it comment about the overall look and color of the helmet.
Second, the finish is excellent and the overall construction of the helmet appears to be superb. It fits perfectly out of the box and is very, very comfortable.
Third, for those of you who wear glasses, the Revolve accomodates glasses frames easily and comfortably.
Fourth, the visor hinge takes a few attempts to get it to work but once you get the feel for it, it is easy to move up/down.
Fifth, the helmet is lightweight and offers a very good view of your surroundings when on your pumpkin.
Weather permitting, I'll jump the helmet this weekend but I can say this: BH did a great job on this helmet. I'm very impressed so far and cannot wait to get into the air.
Quick question, I just ordered my revolve today and wanted to know if you can remove the visor if you have the Contour HD Camera Mount installed on it, or if you have to remove the mount first in order to be able to remove the visor? Thanks, ElMono
Quick question, I just ordered my revolve today and wanted to know if you can remove the visor if you have the Contour HD Camera Mount installed on it, or if you have to remove the mount first in order to be able to remove the visor? Thanks, ElMono
Yes, you can remove both the lens and the face shield without removing the camera.
It appears other full face helmets are having fogging issues at the moment. Just wondering how the REvolve is doing in this aspect. A lot of extra work and money go into the treatment, so I'm wondering if it's doing the job.
And thank you for the excellent helmet. I jump with it since April'11 and I just love it.
Well, when I've been jumping my first post-AFF jumps in April, it was something around 40K (4 to 6C) AGL. The visor was a little foggy, but only at sides, so I could see everything pretty well.
Central venting hole really helps. You can see it on this video:
Had mine since April, here in hot humid Chicago. No issues with fogging. In the fall when it starts cooling off will be the real test.
My only issue has been the chin strap keeps loosening between jumps, and it's a pain to keep having to tighten it in the plane. Is there a recommended way to tack/secure the length or something, so it doesn't change?
I live in FL so the humidity is awful, but I've been having a lot of trouble with fogging once under canopy if I can't get the visor open right away. Wearing gloves, there are days I have a little trouble finding the latch (yes I have practiced) but until I get the visor up it REALLY fogs up.
How long have you had your helmet? I'm thinking it could have been an early one sent out with an uncoated lens. These lens shouldn't fog up. Did it come with a little bottle of solution?
I previously posted about my interest in the Revolve helmet back in September 2010. Shortly after my post I tore my ACL (non-skydiving related injury) and had to take a hiatus from the sport. I recently returned to the sport and finally obtained my A-license.
I am, once again, looking into gear options, including a new helmet. My question is a newbie question of sorts. So, at my level, I don't yet have a good feel for whether I want to focus on relative work or freeflying. My immediate perspective is to focus on relative work for a while and then perhaps try freeflying intermittently or later on in my development.
So, in that regard, I feel like most skydivers will either be belly flyers or freeflyers and generally stick to one discipline. If you agree that this is a true statement, then do experienced jumpers really have a need for an open face AND a closed face helmet such as the Revolve? I'm assuming that if you are doing relative work you are using a full face versus an open face for freeflying (from what I've read).
I think for someone like me, who is new to the sport, I might benefit from having the option since I don't know where my interests will lead me. What about those of you with experience? Are there any experienced jumpers out there that use the Revolve and use it as both full-face and open-face? Can you share anything about your experience, specifically from this regard and also what you think about this helmet for a new jumper?
I purchased it right off of AFF so I could have an open face until I was at a level safe to wear a full face. I do mostly belly flying. Recently I sold it and bought a G2 (because I thought like you I would stay with one discipline), but shortly after I ended up picking up a Mindwrap from bonehead cause I really missed getting that open air feeling every now and then. I thought the Revolve was a a great helmet. Actually think it is quite a bit more comfortable than my G2.
It appears other full face helmets are having fogging issues at the moment. Just wondering how the REvolve is doing in this aspect...
last Saturday I've been jumping at -25 C ( -13 F) AGL. At the exit altitude it was somewhat -40. Two things:
One: Bonehead guys, special thanks to you for this vent groove below the lens. My visor was completely frozen by 2500m (8200 ft). There was only a small window just above the groove, so I could see my altimeter thru it. Otherwise I had to pool high or open the visor at freefall. I don't like both ways.
Two: to everyone who is insane enough to jump at such temperatures: Do not use this stuff http://www.mcnett.com/...ing-System-P127.aspx It work great above freezing temperatures. Below freezing it doesn't work at all. So before my next jump I have removed the lens and jumped with goggles.
Beside that - the helmet is very warm. Especially if you remove the lens only, keeping the visor, it's lining helps to protect your face from cold.
Other guys who have been jumping that day with other fullface helmets had no such a serious icing issues. As I understand it - it comes from one of REvolve main advantages. It has the best field of vision of all fullface helmets I've ever seen. Especially in below direction. You can see your handles very well, you can see everything that happens below you in freefall, without tilting your head down. No need to explain how important it is. But you have to pay for this. You breath on your lens.
Conclusion: it is better to jump at summer or in some warm country:) You can also deal with your paraholism using VVT if you need. Gone skiing until April.
This May I have broken the contour's rails at one nasty landing.
Contour has sent me a new one for free, but I had to wait for the package for 2 month due to my distant location... Also as I said before, I think that BH plate is not ideal from lines entanglement perspective...
So I'm designing my own, with bells and whistles.
Please take a look and let me know what you think:
Currently I'm planning to polish and paint it, and after that order somewhat 20 copies made of plastic similar to ABS. Most likely it will be Biresin VG280 or GTS 850.
Can be installed at any helmet with flat side surface. Will try to make an adapter for some other RW helmet models for my friends who jump with Contours.
This May I have broken the contour's rails at one nasty landing.
Contour has sent me a new one for free, but I had to wait for the package for 2 month due to my distant location... Also as I said before, I think that BH plate is not ideal from lines entanglement perspective...
So I'm designing my own, with bells and whistles.
Please take a look and let me know what you think:
Currently I'm planning to polish and paint it, and after that order somewhat 20 copies made of plastic similar to ABS. Most likely it will be Biresin VG280 or GTS 850.
Can be installed at any helmet with flat side surface. Will try to make an adapter for some other RW helmet models for my friends who jump with Contours.
I would appreciate any comments.
Thanks
CLicky
(This post was edited by scottd818 on Sep 26, 2012, 8:32 AM)
I've been really pushing that and we'll have a mount for the GoPro shortly after its release. Mr. Boss-man just needs some time to perfect that mount, ya know? Not to worry, we're on it!!
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How long have you had your helmet? I'm thinking it could have been an early one sent out with an uncoated lens. These lens shouldn't fog up. Did it come with a little bottle of solution? 
