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mircan  (D 32291)

Aug 16, 2010, 3:26 AM
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FYI

!= means NOT equals.

Blues.
Ian

Oh I did not see the exclamation mark, is that some sort of txt shorthand?

more in programming

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davelepka  (D 21448)

Aug 16, 2010, 7:16 AM
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Re: [skydivefj] Scirocco - new x-braced main by Skylark [In reply to] Can't Post

 
You're making a big deal out of the X-braced (and beyond) market, but you have to remember that those canopies represent just a sliver of the overall sport parachute market. If you design an even higher performance canopy, chances are it will be more complex and therefore more expensive, that wing would hold an even smaller market share.

Take PD for example. Since the Velo was released, it has produced one higher performance canopy, the Comp Velo, which is really just a Velo with some factory mods. In that same time, they have release the Pulse, Storm, Sabre2 and the Optimum Reserves (did I miss anything?). It shows you where they put their R&D time and money, and it ain't the leading edge of hgh performance.

There might be ten better ideas out there then X-bracing, but finding someone to develop them and build them into a canopy that jumpers can afford and want to jump is the real trick.


mchamp  (D 32129)

Aug 17, 2010, 8:35 PM
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Re: [davelepka] Scirocco - new x-braced main by Skylark [In reply to] Can't Post

Scirocco Speed Vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKe0D7Fnj4M&playnext=1&videos=z55yK5ne1gg&feature=sub


Scirocco Distance Vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t54UugVulNs

Sorry Don't know how to make it clicky......Unsure


Premier LouDiamond  (D 25931)
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Aug 17, 2010, 9:25 PM
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In that same time, they have release the Pulse, Storm, Sabre2 and the Optimum Reserves (did I miss anything?).


Yes, the ZERO.Smile


Master_Yoda  (D License)

Aug 17, 2010, 9:28 PM
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Scirocco Speed Vid

http://www.youtube.com/...e1gg&feature=sub


Scirocco Distance Vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t54UugVulNs

Sorry Don't know how to make it clicky......Unsure


Bolas  (D License)

Aug 17, 2010, 9:33 PM
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In that same time, they have release the Pulse, Storm, Sabre2 and the Optimum Reserves (did I miss anything?).


Yes, the ZERO.Smile

The Katana and the Vengeance too.


davelepka  (D 21448)

Aug 17, 2010, 10:03 PM
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Yes, the ZERO.

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The Katana and the Vengeance too.

Zero, yes. Katana, yes. Vengeance, I'm not 100% sure came out after the Velo. Anyone know the release dates on those?


matt002

Aug 18, 2010, 4:50 AM
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Re: [mchamp] Scirocco - new x-braced main by Skylark [In reply to] Can't Post

Nice to see some new HP canopies being developed, the XF-15 is getting some good results too.


Heatmiser  (C License)

Aug 18, 2010, 8:56 AM
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found one on youtube.
clicky


Sobakin  (C License)

Aug 19, 2010, 4:34 PM
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It opens really sweet - like Crossfire. Flying really good - I like it more than Velo. Has a bit shorter arc, but it still in preproduction stage, many changes may be done.
Didn't jump JVX, so can't compare with it.


Cashmanimal  (D 30009)

Aug 20, 2010, 10:55 PM
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Nice to see some new HP canopies being developed, the XF-15 is getting some good results too.

I've been having lots of fun with mine Smile http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_JrrwHC_hI


Zver  (D 32516)

Oct 18, 2010, 2:54 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYXoNsLnLWI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQFCAs3XaRI

The typical Scirocco terminal speed opening


(This post was edited by Zver on Oct 18, 2010, 2:58 PM)


Zver  (D 32516)

Oct 26, 2010, 2:34 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEvR-pgquw8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdwndejyP1U

Video 2-way flocking on Scirocco DZ Kolomna


(This post was edited by Zver on Oct 26, 2010, 3:48 PM)


Zver  (D 32516)

Dec 10, 2010, 9:44 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/...a9xuUcL5SPk&hd=1
Unpuck opening scirocco-72


Zver  (D 32516)

Jan 22, 2011, 11:24 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dloBNrRdVyA
Speed 1st round on Skylark Scirocco-72ft Dubai 2011


raymod2  (D 25630)

Jan 22, 2011, 4:44 PM
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Re: [Zver] Scirocco - new x-braced main by Skylark [In reply to] Can't Post

Was that you Bedrin? It was a nice looking run and it looks like you got the best time on that round (2.909 seconds).


Marc84

Jan 31, 2011, 12:05 PM
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Hey Zver

Nice videos... keep up the testing... Canopy looks like it is coming a long nicely.


Premier ianmdrennan  (D 25821)
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Jan 31, 2011, 4:49 PM
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Thanks for sharing.

Note: Possibly edit the videos so we can see the opening, then go to the setup and landing? No need to watch the whole plane ride, and flight down Smile

Blues,
Ian


yoink

Feb 5, 2011, 10:31 PM
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Completely as an aside, that video is a great example of just how much faffing post-deployment an RDS adds on to your process, and why a full RDS isn't an everyday 'jumping in groups' deal.


bofh  (D 13995)

Feb 19, 2011, 9:38 AM
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According to Skylark's web page, they are now selling the Scirocco.

Sizes from 64 to 124. Listed price is 1845USD for all sizes, one can choose between HMA-350 and HMA-400 lines and with or without a RDS. HMA-950 for lower steering lines. Comes with soft links.

The recommended wing loading is from 1.9 to 2.6. 2.2 to 2.5 for competition.


Rigless

Feb 20, 2011, 1:40 PM
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Re: [bofh] Scirocco - new x-braced main by Skylark [In reply to] Can't Post

Are there any more in depth or general reviews about this canopy anywhere?


bofh  (D 13995)

Feb 20, 2011, 11:33 PM
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Are there any more in depth or general reviews about this canopy anywhere?

Its been discussed a bit on a Russian forum, but the I can't make much sense of the google translation...
http://www.skycentre.net/...opic=6791&st=140

"competitive large" is probably a comp velo. Smile
"the great" seems to be another google translate term for a velocity. Tongue


bofh  (D 13995)

Feb 21, 2011, 8:53 AM
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Listed price is 1845USD for all sizes, one can choose between HMA-350 and HMA-400 lines and with or without a RDS.

I just got a mail from them. Its 1845 including the RDS.


Marc84

Feb 25, 2011, 7:39 AM
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Wow... $1845USD with a RDS too... That is a very good deal compared to a Comp Velo or a JVX What is a JVX going for these days? Is the just the pre-production price?


bofh  (D 13995)

Feb 25, 2011, 11:41 PM
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Wow... $1845USD with a RDS too... That is a very good deal compared to a Comp Velo or a JVX What is a JVX going for these days? Is the just the pre-production price?

They are in full production, but perhaps you ment introduction price? I really don't know. The web site doesn't say anything about it (I think, I only read the russian site via Google Translate). Perhaps they want to keep the price low to get more canopies out there to get some brand awareness?


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