Either way, name change or not, listing all DZs who are not in business with ProSD is not good for the sport and is against what he has said; the whole for the good fo the sport routine.

Promoting DZs is one thing, but actively listing DZs who are not in business with you is another.

We want to sponsor events, take out magazine ads, TV ads, things that will get people thinking about skydiving and generate new business. If they want to Google a DZ near them, that's great, if they end up going to PROskdiving to locate a network DZ, that's fine too. Currently, the internet is the only place we are marketing our industry. That works well for people who know that they want to go skydiving. What about the people who don't even know there's a DZ 20 - 30 miles from their house?

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2. The way in which you list the non-pro DZ's to woofos! See the attached screen shot. You don't even bother to keep the DZ and city the dz does business lined up. It appears to be an intentional mistake, kinda like an "accident on purpose".

At least this way if someone winds up on the website they can see all their local options as opposed to just the DZs that participate.

Doug... I find two things concerning;
1. the hidden links back to the Area DZ's
2. The way in which you list the non-pro DZ's to woofos! See the attached screen shot. You don't even bother to keep the DZ and city the dz does business lined up. It appears to be an intentional mistake, kinda like an "accident on purpose".

I truely hope these are just startup glitches? As I said in my previous post... We'll be watching! At this point, so will the attorney general from the state I live in.

No, they will see that all these DZ's at the bottom are non-ProSD DZs. Again, it is what that is implied that counts, not the intent, or the literal wording.....only what is implied, knowingly or not.

Think of it as if you are a whuffo.

I don't know that I'd see it that way as a know nothing first jump customer. I think that I'd assume the links to be supportive as opposed to negative. If it were intented to be a slam the offended DZs would/should object, it would be more obvious, and why provide the link?

You don't want to be compared to them, you created a business to compete with them, and yet you continue to partner with them? You know who they are, you know what they have done and continue to do. You know their business model has depended on lying to your customers. You know what they are doing is wrong because you know they lost a massive lawsuit. You know that what they're doing is criminal behavior and they will probably end up in prison some day.

And you continue to be their partner in business and crime? If proskydiving can outdo them, PROVE IT.

Dave

Look at this screenshot. It says "Other skydiving centers in your area" That is pretty non threatening. This guy is listening.

Look at this screenshot. It says "Other skydiving centers in your area" That is pretty non threatening. This guy is listening.

Yep that's a good change. Now if they would just stop working with Skyride at his dropzone! That's some change I could believe in

Even if he did stop dealing with sLyride, how can we be sure that he did. It is obviously something that went on for a long time without anyone knowing.

Given the fact that he's been very forthcoming and has been listening to people and changing things that have been pointed out, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt if he said he no longer dealt with Skyride.

Edited to add: You say that no one knew he took SRGC. How do you come to that conclusion. I'm guessing quite a few people knew - probably most of the staff at his DZ knew, definitely his closest competition knew. Other than that, who you expect that he has the responsibility to inform?

If you guys know anything about me and my operation, I have a pretty good reputation as an honest businessman.

Before anyone starts taking Doug at face value, it would be good to do some background research.

A good place to start would be to find out why a four decade legacy of skydiving at Hinckley is coming to an end with Doug's lease expiring. Go into Google, type "Hinckley Airport" and follow the airnav.com link. It has a phone number for the airport owner on the bottom of the page.

Another good place to do some research is with DeKalb County, IL. I'm sure through FOIA there is plenty to be learned.

I'll skip the Nixon one-liner I had for this

Before anyone starts taking Doug at face value, it would be good to do some background research.

A good place to start would be to find out why a four decade legacy of skydiving at Hinckley is coming to an end with Doug's lease expiring. Go into Google, type "Hinckley Airport" and follow the airnav.com link. It has a phone number for the airport owner on the bottom of the page.

Another good place to do some research is with DeKalb County, IL. I'm sure through FOIA there is plenty to be learned.