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SEREJumper  (D 29555)

Jan 4, 2009, 3:28 PM
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Finally had a windy day to get my 1967 PC in the breeze (on the ground). This one was supposedly jumped a lot at Elsinore with a pretty interesting story to go along with it. Anyone seen a color pattern like this before? She is a beauty.

http://s41.photobucket.com/...rpics/paracommander/

Thanks for looking.

Kurt


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darkwing  (D 4164)

Jan 4, 2009, 5:09 PM
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It looks familiar to me. Seems I recall a guy in Boise had one like that when I started jumping there in 1973. I don't recall the name of the pattern though, although I do remember some other pattern names. I owned a "clown"


JerryBaumchen  (D 1543)

Jan 4, 2009, 6:04 PM
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Hi Jeff,

We had a guy at the Donald, OR dz who also had a Clown PC. He then ordered a X-BO rig with every flap/panel on the container being a 'different' color to match the canopy.

Very busy to look at,

JerryBaumchen


mccurley  (E 663)

Jan 4, 2009, 7:26 PM
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By "Busy" do mean ugly?Wink


377  (F 666)

Jan 4, 2009, 11:51 PM
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Never saw that pattern.

Paul Laput (Cal Club Livermore CA circa 69) got a custom PC with lots of orange and black panels. We called it the Great Pumpkin. Anyone recall Paul and his PC?


jerry9461  (D 4281)

Jan 5, 2009, 6:38 AM
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Pioneer had a design called "Aztec" with these colors, but I am not sure if the pattern was the same.


Beatnik  (D 1051)

Jan 5, 2009, 3:19 PM
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This is not a n Aztec pattern. I have an Aztec PC that is used for parts it has more yellow and black than red. More of a stripe pattern. I might have a picture of one somewhere.


377  (F 666)

Jan 5, 2009, 3:40 PM
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Sounds like Beatnik has a FrankenPC.

I can see the rig now, squeeze type Capewell on one side, pull ring type on the other. Hey, it's all vintage so it's all good.

God bless Beatnik, he really needs it.

377


JerryBaumchen  (D 1543)

Jan 5, 2009, 3:48 PM
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Hi Steve,

No, 'busy' does not mean ugly.

If you were to look at an Army Team PC you would find a very simple pattern; a black w/gold keyhole. Angelic

This canopy shown in this thread just has lots of colors all mixed up; to me that is 'busy.' Crazy

OK? Tongue

JerryBaumchen


SkydiveJack  (D 6486)

Jan 5, 2009, 7:33 PM
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I'm really digging through the dead (KIA) brain cells here.

Could that pattern be something they called the Black Widow?


Graybird  (D 7113)

Jan 5, 2009, 8:24 PM
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I had a friend who jumped one very similar. I believe it was called the bumble bee color pattern.


Beatnik  (D 1051)

Jan 6, 2009, 4:53 AM
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Quote:
Could that pattern be something they called the Black Widow?

I believe a black widow pattern has black and red alternating gores. I could be wrong though.


piper17  (D 3362)

Jan 6, 2009, 5:45 AM
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Jack,

Not a Black Widow pattern. My first rig (Pioneer three pin canvas container) included a MkI PC in the "Black Widow" pattern; apex was red, black "legs" and then white. I have a photo somewhere...yellow with age but no yellow in the canopy. Tongue


ParaShoot  (D 22759)

Jan 6, 2009, 6:39 AM
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I've a very similar one that I regularly jump. Especially on our vintage weekends. It's a Competition though and I've to look for the date.

Now I've a closer look the colors are a like but the pattern is different.
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Tink1717  (D 12524)

Jan 6, 2009, 7:05 AM
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There's one like that covering the ceiling in the loft at Skydive Delmarva.


phildthedildo

Jan 6, 2009, 7:50 AM
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bumblebee pattern was american Papillon not para commander


steve1  (D 23640)

Jan 6, 2009, 8:06 AM
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In reply to:
I've a very similar one that I regularly jump. Especially on our vintage weekends. It's a Competition though and I've to look for the date.

How does that Competition model land. I've heard many stories about how much harder they land than a Mk-1.

I bought a competion model a few years back. I had the high turning slots shortened by a rigger. I hope to try it out this summer.....

I do recall the black widow pattern. I think I remember the clown pattern.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I loved my Red Devil P.C. I wish I still had that canopy.....


Niki1  (D 3103)

Jan 6, 2009, 8:43 AM
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In reply to:
I'm really digging through the dead (KIA) brain cells here.

Could that pattern be something they called the Black Widow?

Hey, Jack! Toda Bone?
I'm thinking that the pattern you're reffering to is the "Merry Widow". It was black with a multi colored keyhole. A "Black Widow" would'nt be a very good name for a life saving device.Smile
The colors in this picture are the same as those used in the pattern called the "Aztec" but a different layout. there's a picture several posts down from yours that is an Aztec.
I hope everything is going fine for you. Don't bend the aircraft.


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ripcord4  (D 2238)

Jan 6, 2009, 9:54 AM
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The all-black PC with multi-colored keyhole was the "Church Window" - I had two of them and it was the prettiest PC pattern EVER!

Hi ya, Beatnik!


howardwhite  (C 3896)

Jan 6, 2009, 12:08 PM
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OK, since everyone is having such fun dusting off cobwebs, here is the first of a set of little quizzes. Just assign a name to each number.
If this becomes too hard, maybe I'll provide the answers and you just have to match name to number.
There will be a prize, probably a free skydive at a DZ of my choice.Cool

HW
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wdy_bnckr  (D 624)

Jan 6, 2009, 12:29 PM
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Damn, if I could turn back the clock 44 years I'd be able to tell you what my PC looked like when it comes out...
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Beatnik  (D 1051)

Jan 6, 2009, 12:33 PM
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I have the ads these pics came from so I will leave it alone for a while. But I do know what they are.Wink


Beatnik  (D 1051)

Jan 6, 2009, 12:37 PM
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I'm thinking that the pattern you're reffering to is the "Merry Widow"

This is a Merry Widow PC.

I apologize if this is someone's picture. I got in a long time ago off the net and can't remember where now.
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ParaShoot  (D 22759)

Jan 6, 2009, 12:57 PM
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I've an ad with two full pages with the names including the piglets and starlites and the MK2 colors.

I'll scan it but post it after most names are filled in so people still have to think hard.


pchapman  (D 1014)

Jan 6, 2009, 1:07 PM
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In reply to:
I've an ad with two full pages with the names

That would be great because I've seen a few discussions here where everyone is chipping in about PC color scheme names and whether or not a canopy is exactly that scheme or not...


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