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cphelan

Aug 26, 2008, 9:24 AM
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I am interested in doing this school http://www.skydivingnz.com and I was looking through the forums and couldn't find a forum about this school that isn't a year or more older so I decided to start a new one. There are a couple of questions I have with the program. First off being the most important, How is the training? I would also like to know things such as places to stay while your there, transportation, facility, typical day to day schedule, is it worth the cost? Also was wondering what the culture was like in new zealand. (Probably meant for a different forum but a quick thought wont kill anyone.) Any updated information or thoughts on this program would be greatly appreciated. Thanks


kkeenan  (D 22164)

Aug 26, 2008, 9:30 AM
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I understand that this diploma qualifies one to be a packer and to live in the back of a hangar anywhere in the world.Wink


cphelan

Aug 26, 2008, 9:45 AM
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haha ya I've read that from some other people but the experiance has to be worth something?


beowulf  (C License)

Aug 27, 2008, 6:50 AM
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Every experience is worth something. Will the diploma be worth anything once you have it? I can't see how it would be worth much here in the US. It's better to have an AFF rating and a Tandem Instructor rating. Then you could afford to buy a tent.Tongue


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someday

Sep 9, 2008, 9:44 PM
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this course is really the only formal course of skydiving instruction that is out there...


in my opinion its something you do for the experience of being a student somewhere else :D

if they had a skydiving "school" in the USA i would consider goin there..but they don't..


beowulf  (C License)

Sep 10, 2008, 8:17 AM
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I don't see the value in this "Diploma". It won't make you more likely to be hired then someone who has their Tandem and AFF rating.


AdD  (D License)

Sep 10, 2008, 10:02 AM
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I have jumped with grads of the Christchurch school. It produces good cameraflyers. You will be a skilled but underqualified video guy when you come out. I say underqualified because manufacturers of tandem equipment recommed 500 jumps as a baseline for doing tandem video. New Zealand's requirement is only 200 but you will have trouble finding a job with those numbers. The cost is also quite high if you aren't from NZ where the gov't pays for half of it... you would be better off financially going to a large US dropzone and bargaining for 200 coached jumps and some tunnel time in my opinion. That said if you aren't on a budget go for it.


cphelan

Sep 11, 2008, 7:27 AM
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in my opinion its something you do for the experience of being a student somewhere else :D

I'm still on the edge on wether I want to go or not. I agree with most of you that there are definitely more cost effect ways that get you the same qualifications but I'm more look for the "experience of being a student somewhere else." I also don't have the opportunity here Living in colorado to get 170 skydives in such a short period. I also would love to learn the ins and outs of a drop zone... manifest packing etc... Living 2 hours away from my drop zone right now (not really a good excuse) Limits me to helping out a hole lot and learning the nitty gritty. I have heard from allot of people that the school does produce really good flyers. Thats always a plus. I'm just wondering what life will be like in New Zealand. Never been there so not up to date on the culture. Thanks for all your opinions. Greatly appreciated!


NickDG  (D 8904)

Sep 11, 2008, 7:57 AM
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I was there in the early 90s and still have a lot of kiwi friends. They are a great people. Friendly, outgoing, and fun loving. When I was there the crime rate was so low there was a rape case that stayed on the front pages of the newspapers for weeks because that sort of thing was so rare.

It's also a beautiful county with every kind of topography there is. Mountains, some desert, beaches and everything in between. It's really two large islands (North and South) and each is unique. And driving down the coasts is like the California coast but 40 years ago before it was all developed.

Since the US dollar has tanked you won't do that well now but when I was there it was about two New Zealand dollars to one U.S. dollar. Also they loved "Yanks" back then but since our worldwide reps have also tanked the one place you probably won't get personally tagged for our governments idiocy will be New Zealand.

There's a kind of funny story about young people there. They are so remote in relationship to the rest of the world the young ones like to travel to see what the rest of the world looks like. When they return they always say they never realized what a beautiful place they lived in as they always took New Zealand for granted. And they call those folks "born again" Kiwis!

And once you go, you'll always be a little bit Kiwi in your heart . . .

NickD Smile


Rover  (D 241)

Sep 11, 2008, 12:28 PM
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And the NZ dollar is weakening at the moment!


cphelan

Dec 9, 2008, 1:43 PM
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I thought id give you all an update and let you know I decided to do the course. It starts Jan 19th 2009 so wish me luck. Thanks for everyones opinions. They were all greatly appreciated. Ill keep this thread updated to let you all know about my experience with the school. Hopefully it will help the next person considering the course. Thanks again for the help Sly


FFAddict  (D 1083)

Dec 18, 2008, 2:15 PM
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I did the course october 2006 and i loved it and would recommend it to anyone.

There is no denying that the diploma itsself is not really worth anything to anyone but the skills that the diploma represents are priceless. If you work hard and have a good attitude then getting work after the course is not too hard. Most people are offered work by there work placement DZ.

Personally i had a full time camera job straight off the course and had a tandem rating after about 10months of camera work. Im not saying everybody is as lucky as i was but it goes to show that you can certainly go a long way if you work at it.

The staff at the school have changed since i was there so i cant comment on them but if they are even half as good as my instructors you will walk away with the skills to work, fun jump and most importanmtly stay safe.

I hope you enjoy it as much as i did


tetra316  (D 26945)

Dec 20, 2008, 7:04 PM
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had a tandem rating after about 10months of camera work.

Were you already a skydiver? Don't they have some sort of time in sport requirement (like 3 years in the US) before you can become a tandem instructor?


rhys  (D 95)

Dec 22, 2008, 9:55 PM
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Were you already a skydiver? Don't they have some sort of time in sport requirement (like 3 years in the US) before you can become a tandem instructor?

2 years in the sport and 1000 jumps to be a tandem instructor in New Zealand.

I did the course in 2002, I was jumping for a living within a year of my first jump and had a tandem rating a year and a half after that with 2200 jumps.

It is intersting to see people mocking the diploma corse when they have no clue of what it is about and seem to think it is impossible to make a good living as a professional skydiver.

I earned Over $1000 this week doing bugger all work and having 3 days off!, I earn over AUS$60k a year and my fiancee earns similar money doing a similar role (camera and rigging)
The diploma course is a really good start to a commercial skydiving career and anyone that really wants to be a commercial skydiver will not find a faster way to do so.

the diploma itself is worth nothing but the skills and attitude learned is worth everything.

To the original poster, I'll see you there in April when Leigh and I come to visit.


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virgin-burner

Dec 23, 2008, 12:57 AM
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that stuff sounds so tempting.. Pirate


amidarren

Jul 19, 2009, 4:12 AM
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so tempting for me to do it next year! anyone out there who have done this course recently?! recent graduates?

i need some insights of the course and job opp in this bad times!!


Bennef  (D 31739)

Oct 8, 2009, 5:06 PM
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FrownI am from April '09 course, I have not finished my training yet, am in work placement and let me tell you a story that happened to the 18 of us :
Basically we applied the course because it was NZPIA certificate and licence. In the middle of the course, without any advise, the managment changed from NZPIA (the federation from which most of the NZ DZ are affiliated to) to a weird ParaNZ one (created on political matters, with only 5 affiliated NZ DZ!!!!!!!!) claiming that was the same.
They took our money of course, never gave us the advertised licence.... How is that: professional skydiving or professional rip-off?
They change course director so often that you don't know what is going on really : Is it safe for students jumping then?

Because of their incompetence I was grounded in my work placement for 4weeks : Is it once again what you expect when you applied for a course that is suppose to put you straight in the air?

My advise is definitely not to applied for this course, you'd rather go to a good and recognized DZ and negociate a tailor made training with good safety level and ground training, few coachings, you will certainly pay less and definitely have no headache!!!

Blue sky


douwanto  (D 23851)

Oct 8, 2009, 5:38 PM
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the time requirements are set by the manufactures not the country.


strop45  (D 957)

Oct 8, 2009, 9:35 PM
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Maybe in the US, but here NZ laws and regulations trump manufacturers rules or recommendations everytime. You can't contract out of the law.


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bigway

Oct 9, 2009, 12:04 AM
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I don't see the value in this "Diploma". It won't make you more likely to be hired then someone who has their Tandem and AFF rating.

Yes it will and yes it does.

You see, they have dropzones all around the world on their books registered to take work experience at the end of the course and most of these people end up in jobs.

It seriously works very well. its not like you do the course and then thats it, see you later. A place like this has alot of support and alot of networking that goes along with it as any strong business would.


beowulf  (C License)

Oct 9, 2009, 7:23 AM
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I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not?


kirsty

Oct 12, 2009, 1:03 AM
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FYI. If you are really interested in the real story see attachment.
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bigway

Oct 12, 2009, 8:15 AM
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I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not?

not at all. Think about it, these guys own 3 very large dropzones.Two of them do 100+ tandems a day in the tourist market.
They produce camera fliers on this course and then send them out for work around dropzones around the world for three months to work for free.
A person with a 'product' like that in the business world is going to have a lot of contacts. Those students that go and work for free for three months as a packing bitch or a van driver, editor, fuel person are going to show they stuck it out and be in line for a camer position.

The people who own the school are known by dropzones owners right around the world.

Either way you look at it the course owners have a product, and it is a very popular product. At the end of the day 100+ new people to the sport do jump number one and three-five months later they are sent to dropzones around the world for three months work placement in exchange for thirty jumps. Those newbies now have a foot in the door of a place for employment.

Considering their education is 50 lectures to do with the commercial aspects of skydiving, 200 skydives and for 90% of the students, half the course is paid by the government student loan, it is a damn good idea.

I can tell you as a fact, I did the course and the first 200 skydives I did have not cost me a single cent. I never graduated, i left with issues with the directors, that are now resolved and for the last nine years I have worked in the skydiving industry in numerous roles.


Love it or hate it but if you are a kiwi, and aussie or from the uk your government will give you a student loan for 50% of the cost of the course and then the NZ government will pay the other 50% of the course if you are a kiwi.
End of the day you have 200 skydives, a damn good knowledge of how the commercial side of skydiving works and a dropzone that will give you a chance to make yourself show them that you are worthy of a job.

The guys who were on my first course, a couple of them have over 8000 tandems, two of them have represented nz at the worlds and been a crucial part of starting dropzones in numerous countries.


The "diploma' means shit, sure.... but the course itself is a great way to get 200 jupms from zero jumps, an affordable way and the course directors make it their business for you to get employeed at the end of it so they can keep getting the government funding they need.

The course was started because nine out of ten Tandem masters in new zealand commercial dropzones were from overseas and NZ needed new zealand native workers.NZ is the tourist adventure capital of the world.
You can go to taupo and every day it is jumpable there is three dropzones sharing one field and they all have 100-200 tandems EACH a day. Down in queenstown the dropzone the course owns has a retail shop in the main town for the selling tandem jumps.


The course is a fantastic business. It just so happen that when there is something like this in such a small country that competition turns political, the one reason i know of for that and nobody will probably admit is cause Kirsty made the course public the year that it was said no more private business's could do something like this and get it subsidised by the government. Brilliant if you ask me.


No, I am not a supporter of the school, I was on the first course, I left on bad terms with them, but I do know that and can admit that what they have on offer is a huge step forward for some people who want to make a living out of it.

Sorry for the long reply, I just dont think it can be said any shorter as I want to help you understand.


(This post was edited by bigway on Oct 12, 2009, 9:10 AM)


lawman

Oct 12, 2009, 10:03 PM
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Hmm... been following this thread with interest. Re: the letter from the Director of CAA New Zealand... means 'jack' really. Classic CYA in my opinion- and a really well written letter. He says that the other part 149 organisations must 'recognise' the ratings etc issued by the said organisations- BUT that does not mean that they have to accept them! IOW- "Hey congrats on receiving your xxx rating" or "well done BUT sorry you can't use that rating here- go get a real one"!!

Obviously if the ratings were issued by a long standing, credible, parachute organisation with a track record and history- like USPA, CSPA,BPA, APF or NZPIA- then certainly most DZO's would be comfortable to allow the holders of those ratings to excercise those ratings on his DZ right? Well in this case- there is no way in hell that I, or any other DZO in his right mind would have any of these ratings holders anywhere near my DZ thanks! For all I know they may have acquired their ratings from a Cheerios box!! One has to question why there was a need in New Zealand to create more than one Part 149 organisation in the first place!! Nowhere else in the world this has happened? Hey- lets all start parachute organisations and start handing out skydive ratings willy nilly!!! Yeah Right!

As a DZO- if one of these new ratings holders came my way- I would do exactly as the New Zealand Director CAA suggests- and undertake you own assessment. IOW make them do the full REAL and accepted rating from the start. Period.

In time- the new Part 149 organisations may prove to be OK, but in my experience you certainly don't start a parachute organisation and automatically expect to receive credibility! On the absolute contrary- credibility need to be earned over a long long time, where you get to show quality, sensibility and a proven track record. Untill then- these new organisations are simply a liability- particulary for any DZO who will have to answer for any issues in court. Have you $$$$$ ready!!!


bigway

Oct 12, 2009, 11:01 PM
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I thought the NZPIA was only a few years old. Didnt realise they had a history. Didnt the same people who started NZPara also have alot to do with starting NZPIA anyway?


Rover  (D 241)

Oct 13, 2009, 12:24 AM
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Didnt the same people who started NZPara also have alot to do with starting NZPIA anyway?
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People or person. ParaNZ is essentially a one man band and I think not.


bigway

Oct 13, 2009, 5:36 AM
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OK,Thanks for answering.

If it is not one political drama with skydiving in NZ, then it is another one.

Such a shame as it is the only thing that ever gets talked about in these forums about NZ skydiving and skydiving in NZ is the best experience ever. Where else can you hire a entire island (slipper island) for a weekend and just skydive, or jump next to 7000ft of snow capped mountains, or jump over a massive volcano crater turned into a gigantic lake, or land on a glacier, or over a city, or on a beach.

Beautiful country, beautiful dropzones, ugly as hell politics.

I am sure at some stage NZ will get their shit together.

My vote says bring back Tim Fastnedge and the NZPF and his awesome NZPF weekends he use to put on!


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lawman

Oct 13, 2009, 4:46 PM
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Of course they have a history, and a track record as well. Imagine one small country doing an insane number of tandem jumps. If the NZPIA did not have a history and were not doing their job then these forums would be full of incidents and dramas right? But no- there are hardy any? Why? Somebody or something must be doing their job damn right? So- why is it then that there are 'other' organisations? Answer is very obvious to me and should be to you too? They simply do not meet the high standards or professionalism to be allowed to join the main organisation- so they are forced to have to open their own Micky Mouse side shows? Sometimes the truth can be very hard to swallow. I suggest you go do a little research and place emotion last!Wink


hemiltonfleming

Apr 1, 2011, 7:34 AM
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Yeah I am looking for the diploma in the commercial skydiving as I am having practical knowledge but looking to buy diploma online.

[url=http://www.buyafakediploma.com]diploma


rhys  (D 95)

Apr 7, 2011, 3:10 AM
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Of course they have a history, and a track record as well. Imagine one small country doing an insane number of tandem jumps. If the NZPIA did not have a history and were not doing their job then these forums would be full of incidents and dramas right? But no- there are hardy any? Why? Somebody or something must be doing their job damn right? So- why is it then that there are 'other' organisations? Answer is very obvious to me and should be to you too? They simply do not meet the high standards or professionalism to be allowed to join the main organisation- so they are forced to have to open their own Micky Mouse side shows?

Codswollop.

Quote:
Over the last two decades several sport and recreational aviation activities have grown into significant commercial operations. In certain cases these activities have been advertised on Tourist Brochures available at Information Bureau’s throughout the country.




The rules for sport and recreation aviation activities were written for pure “amateur” sport and recreation activities, and were not designed for commercial operations. These rules comprise Part 149 Aviation Recreation Organisations – Certification, and the Part 100 series covering Operating Rules for various sport and recreation activities.
While most people operating under these sport and recreation rules act responsibly, the attitudes of some give rise to concern. There is pressure from within the civil aviation system for safety practices and administration to be improved.
Part 149 was never intended to be an operational rule and therefore has no provision for this commercial activity. In any case Aviation Recreation organisations certificated under Part 149, do not have the structure or procedures to be able to assure the Director that hire or reward activities can be, or are being, carried out safely.
In 2003, a further request from Industry and CIRAG to review the need for Part 115 was based on a concern that operational standards might not meet the same levels as Part 135.
In July 2006 the Director agreed to CAA policy recommendations that there is a need to introduce a new CAR Part 115 to regulate adventure aviation. In summary, the CAA policy is to:
• define a new category of aviation activity within the general aviation sector to be called “adventure aviation”;
• regulate the various activities that make up the adventure aviation sector through a new rule
Part 115;
• develop within the proposed Part 115, a set of general requirements for certification that are applicable to all adventure aviation operators with sub parts of the rule containing standards applicable to specific activities;
• include, as a key element of the proposed rule part, a requirement for individual operators to hold an aviation document issued under Part 115; and
• administer the proposed Part 115 utilising industry experience as much as is practicable, consistent with their level of capability and their desire to be involved.
5/CAR/1 Part 115 - Adventure Aviation Project Scope Statement
Civil Aviation Authority 2
“Adventure aviation” will cover any activity or combination of activities, where passengers are carried by air for hire or reward and the primary purpose of the activity is the experience of flight in the aircraft, or of engaging in the aerial activity itself.

http://www.caa.govt.nz/...ms/NPRM_Part_115.pdf
So the NZCAA are not happy with the current format, sport aviation privileges are being abused for commercial gain (at the expense of the sport) and the rules are being are currently being re-written to address the ongoing concerns.

Why you don't hear about (most of the) incidents in New Zealand? Because the reports are not published (one of CAA's concerns) and the operators are also very good at sweeping them under the carpet, to protect the integrity of their commercial operations.

The NZPIA are the Mickey Mouse setup, they had the chance to control the industry, and they abused that privilege and ultimately blew it.

The CAA would not have issued any further part 149's if they didn’t feel there was a need for it.

Soon (November 2011) part 115 submissions will begin and then it will become very interesting....


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parksung17

Apr 25, 2011, 3:59 AM
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mcstain  (A 12623)

Dec 9, 2011, 3:37 AM
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Soon (November 2011) part 115 submissions will begin and then it will become very interesting....

Wondering if there has been any news on this front? I am looking into doing the diploma course next year. All of this part 115 stuff goes straight over my head, but I'm trying to understand it! Would also be good to hear from others who have done the course recently and what their thoughts on the experience were...?


luvskull

Feb 18, 2012, 12:34 AM
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I was on a look out for a career in sky diving when i came across the diploma in skydiving course and this thread, hopefully m the next person you could help Smile....

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eazydiver  (B License)

May 17, 2012, 3:09 PM
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I am a student currently finishing a diploma at the school, and having been here for the last 5 months, can share with you my honest opinions and observations about the course.

I started in January this year, the courses are set up to overlap so that the junior students can learn off the senior students before they leave, which is good.
Currently at the school there are about 15 students, one asian, two australians, one from the U.S, and the rest are kiwis. As i had my A license when i started the course, I have done 145 jumps here and will do another 30 on my work placement.

When my course started, things were a little disjointed and unorganized in respect to the structure of our learning. This has changed massively for the better, just in my short time here, due to a new person taking over the running of the school, who is an extremely experienced skydiver of over 20,000 jumps and holds world titles in relative work skydiving. I have no doubt that after I leave the school will keep improving under his leadership.

The school is a great learning environment. Being around skydiving constantly for 6 months and jumping pretty much every sunny day, you really learn alot in a short space of time. Not just about how to fly in freefall, and how to be safe under canopy, but also we learn alot of things on bad weather days when we are stuck in the hangar, e.g. how to make closing loops, packing races to get quicker at packing sport rigs and tandem rigs, watching our landing videos to analyze landings so we can all improve our landings, gear checking tests (purposely gearing up the wrong way to see if people can find all the faults), learning about cameras and camera flying, etc.
Having an allocated number of 1on1 coaching jumps on the course is really good for allowing you to work on things you want to improve in your technique.

The best thing about the diploma is the people. The instructors are awesome and the students are awesome. The culture is really supportive, nobody's out to try and cut each other down, everyone just helps each other learn. Instructors dont yell at you for doing something wrong, they just use it as an opportunity for everybody to learn from, to make everybody here safer skydivers. You will make friends here that will go into the skydiving industry all over the world.

The setting for the school is also wicked. set at the foothills of the southern alps.. jumping here is beautiful, especially when snow falls on the surrounding mountains.

This week is my last week at the school and it is really sad to leave ! I can truly say ive had an awesome time, and while I am sad to leave the school, new adventures lie ahead in the opportunity of work placement.. and I definetly feel equipped and ready to tackle it with everything ive learnt about skydiving from the school.

Anyways, feel that ive blabbed on long enough, but I hope that for anybody that is wondering what its like at the school .. I may have just answered some of your questions.

One love


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Premier Remster  (C License)

May 17, 2012, 3:22 PM
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due to a new person taking over the running of the school,

The description sounds familiar... In a good way. Can you confirm who that is?


eazydiver  (B License)

May 17, 2012, 4:35 PM
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He goes by the name of Gary Beyer Cool


Premier Remster  (C License)

May 17, 2012, 6:55 PM
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Tell him he sucks....

And that he's missed here's (well, Emma more that him, but he doesn't need to know that Wink)


matthewcline  (D 21585)

May 21, 2012, 10:50 AM
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Tell him he sucks....

And that he's missed here's (well, Emma more that him, but he doesn't need to know that Wink)

+1 Tongue

Matt


talon2

May 22, 2012, 1:25 AM
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He goes by the name of Gary Beyer Coolgary has the creds and integrity....as did 2 other sa blokes ....dip school has to keep up the standard when they dont have a geoff or a gary etc ............its showed when they didnt and shows when they dont .....


UKFSChick

May 23, 2012, 7:39 PM
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Thanks Remy. We miss you all and all the OTL crew too. How's Karen? You guys should come down here and jump, the dz is nothing short of incredible and I hear it looks pretty sweet from 10k too. :)


mcstain  (A 12623)

Aug 26, 2012, 4:25 AM
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I am a student currently finishing a diploma at the school, and having been here for the last 5 months, can share with you my honest opinions and observations about the course.

Thanks heaps for sharing your experience at the school. Consider this a cheeky bump in case anyone else has experiences to share.


richardw38  (B License)

Aug 26, 2012, 4:21 PM
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just an fyi, Skydive Nagambie is now also offering a similar course.

http://www.skydivenagambie.com/...dive/jump-start.html


mcstain  (A 12623)

Aug 27, 2012, 4:51 AM
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just an fyi, Skydive Nagambie is now also offering a similar course.

http://www.skydivenagambie.com/...dive/jump-start.html

Very interesting, thanks for this!


skydog  (D 567)

Jan 25, 2013, 5:18 AM
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And now in the Northern Hemisphere.......

http://www.skydiving.co.uk/freefall-foundry


Pulse  (D 16387)

Jan 30, 2013, 12:07 AM
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I have to say that when I saw this school actually existed I had to laugh. It's a business. It's some people making some money off people by sounding like they have the 'secrets'. While also getting some labor out of the students for a time.

There's nothing that can't be learned just by getting in close at a dz. In the end, I bet you get more 'real' experience in the latter.


UKFSChick

Feb 3, 2013, 9:32 PM
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I have to say that when I saw this school actually existed I had to laugh. It's a business. It's some people making some money off people by sounding like they have the 'secrets'.

Doesn't that describe virtually every tertiary education establishment in existence? Tongue


Squeak  (E 1313)

Feb 4, 2013, 2:00 AM
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I have to say that when I saw this school actually existed I had to laugh. It's a business. It's some people making some money off people by sounding like they have the 'secrets'.

Doesn't that describe virtually every tertiary education establishment in existence? Tongue
not to mention he's 5 years late coming to the table to whine about itCrazy


Pulse  (D 16387)

Feb 4, 2013, 7:42 AM
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I have to say that when I saw this school actually existed I had to laugh. It's a business. It's some people making some money off people by sounding like they have the 'secrets'.

Doesn't that describe virtually every tertiary education establishment in existence? Tongue

Sure does. Of course some professions are easier to learn. Simply because of what you have access to. But skydiving? By the time you're at the point you may consider it as a career you have the access.

The notion of a degree for this stuff is kind of ridiculous. But I add that to list if degrees and certifications. But then again, I've never cared for formal education.
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Shoebomb

May 1, 2013, 10:37 PM
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Ive recently finished this course. I was one of the coolest things ive ever done. I started it with 100 jumps and it has made a huge difference to my flying. You learn alota stuff that you wouldnt get to learn if you just did you AFF and then went into the world. The CI Gary Beyer is awesome, who doesnt want to get trained by a world champ.
For kiwis this is the best place to learn to jump the government will pay half the course and you get a student loan for the rest, they will also pay your living costs for the 9 months, they paid more than i did for the course. Pretty much every one gets offered a job after there placement.

Doing this course has given me a new look at skydiving, im much more safety conscious and confident.

Its an AWESOME course dont let any of these guys tell you any different, none of the people i did it with wanted to leave.



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