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mjosparky  (D 5476)

Jun 8, 2008, 4:52 PM
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I wish DZO's would do things like that to prepair new pilots.

Many DZ's do. As at your local DZ and see what they require for currency and training.

Sparky


JohnDeere  (D License)

Jun 8, 2008, 6:00 PM
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my DZ actually hires very experienced pilots. I was speaking generally about dz's that i hear about getting the newest/cheapest pilots they can find.


riggerrob  (D 14840)

Jun 9, 2008, 8:15 AM
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I was speaking generally about dz's that i hear about getting the newest/cheapest pilots they can find.
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Cheap skates get what they pay for!


skydived19006  (D 19006)

Jun 9, 2008, 8:47 AM
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my DZ actually hires very experienced pilots. I was speaking generally about dz's that i hear about getting the newest/cheapest pilots they can find.

I saw an interesting comment from Mike Mullins regarding the availability of jump pilots. In a drop zone owners forum, someone was lamenting the lack of pilots to fly his turbine aircraft, dont remember the type. Mike responded There is no shortage of pilots, just a shortage of pay.

That pretty much sums it up.

Also on the topic of pilots and pay, I had a 200 Jump Wonder skydiver mention to me that she thought I should pay my pilots more. I told her Ill pay them $25 a load if thats what everyone thinks should happen. It will drive the cost of your slots up by $4. To which she responded Why do I always gota pay? End of conversation.

Its amazing how stupid some people can be regardless of education! Seems that many get the common sense educated out of them. Or as Jerry Clower would have said Youre obviously educated beyond your intelligence.

Martin


JoeWDaniel

Mar 14, 2015, 12:55 PM
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skydived19006 wrote:
Youre obviously educated beyond your intelligence.

Martin

Epic ending to an epic forum debate... Well done all who participated.


riggerrob  (D 14840)

Mar 15, 2015, 8:02 AM
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Thanks for reviving this thread. Interesting how it preceded 2008 August 3. Lawyers don't want me talk about what happened on Sunday, 2008 August 3. They are afraid that I will biased the next court hearing.


riggerrob  (D 14840)

Mar 15, 2015, 8:10 AM
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USPA might start by publishing "best business practices" for jump pilots, and publish them in a format that a C-licensed jumper can understand. If the accident rate drops, cool!
If the accident rate does not drop, then USPA threatens to require jump-pilots (at USPA-affiliated Group Member DZs) to write a simple exam. If the accident rate drops, cool!
If not, USPA publishes standards for formal check rides. If the accident rate drops, cool!
If not, USPA starts sending check pilots around to group member DZs.
Etc.
The strategy is to slowly ramp-up pressure on "slacker DZOs."


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