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377  (F 666)

Mar 11, 2013, 11:20 PM
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Amazon wrote
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Its called S P O T T I N G
I did a thing called the Green Meet in 2004 at Snohomish...I spotted the load.. and landed 25' from dead center with a mil surplus 40 year old round... with all the old gear including a belly wart for the reserve ( hence the name GREEN MEET) The winner of the meet beat me by 5 ft... and was 30 years younger and a whole lot smaller... dayum those little floaty butts..

Damn good job Amazon. You took first in the masters division.

Spotting is a lost art that should be revived.

Jumping surplus rounds is a lost art that should remain buried, DEEP.

I've got well over a hundred bone-crunching backwards-speeding perfect PLF or break something C9 jumps. Whaduhyuh expect from a $25 canopy anyway?

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Robert99

Mar 11, 2013, 11:35 PM
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On that tree shot in the film, I only wondered how the cam crew managed to be in the exact spot under that particular tree to catch the jumper coming down. For the jump folks: Notice it's also a round.

Blevins, While the parachute is round, more or less, it also has slots and is steerable. The camera crew picked their tree and got set up. The jumper was aware of the specific tree in which he was to land and he did so. The jumper came to the camera crew without any magic being involved.

To repeat, in the opening scenes of the Treat Williams movie, ALL of the scenes were filmed in the air. The scenes prior to the ones that start with Robert Duvall's name superimposed were filmed when the air mass underneath the was either marine air or had quite a bit of smog. The airliner was above that air mass and in bright sunshine. You have to see this stuff from the air and under a lot of different conditions to understand that it is a natural situation. Also, those scenes were apparently filmed in the late afternoon (and I don't mean early morning).

The scenes with Robert Duvall's name superimposed and later ones had much less smoggy type air beneath the aircraft and things on the ground appeared to be sharper.

Robert99


skyjack71

Mar 11, 2013, 11:53 PM
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You guys have been busy tonight.

So have I, but in an entirely different way.

Strange things no one is talking about! Even I am wary of saying much lately - so then U know something is going ON.


377  (F 666)

Mar 12, 2013, 12:15 AM
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Strange things no one is talking about! Even I am wary of saying much lately - so then U know something is going ON.

That girl can sure tease good. This last one has a hoodoo voodoo tone to it. I can almost hear Dr John, the "night tripper" in the background.

The best zombie song, however, is this one by the Reggae artist Busy Signal: http://www.in-jamaica.com/...ideofeed/22k64PVNenc

The song is sung entirely in English but the Jamaican accent is so heavy that I bet few here can understand more than a word or two. I challenge you to write a few lines of the lyrics and post them.

So Jo, beneath the tease, what is going on? Can you put him on da plane?

The Duane in plane falls mainly on the insane. Wink

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Amazon  (D License)

Mar 12, 2013, 12:35 AM
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Ets nawt so hard mahn...


georger

Mar 12, 2013, 1:31 AM
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Thanks Robert99, take a look at these two photo's, it appears the stairs are not locked in photo #2
Ask your friend if the stairs were locked as a safety
precaution. In the movie CRASH, the stairs were locked
for that reason.


RobertMBlevins

Mar 12, 2013, 9:35 PM
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I think the film Crash is one of the most under-appreciated movies ever done. It addresses human issues in a way no other film has done before or since. Of course, probably the most dramatic scene is the one between Thandie Newton as the woman trapped in the car and Matt Dillon as the racist cop who molested her earlier...now trying to save her life. That's drama for sure.

On the subject of Cooper, one of the things going on around here is a constant barrage about this suspect or that. Mainly...Duane Weber and Kenny Christiansen, and to a lesser, but less obtrusive extent, Sheridan Peterson. Actually, discussion on Peterson, when it has been done, is productive.

But there is a SECOND element around here, and it's just as big a problem. Without naming names, let's just say that one or two users have gotten into a bad habit of making smart-ass comments with little or no provocation. New visitors see this stuff, and no doubt it drives them away. I have seen comments on other websites occasionally about it.

I think we can agree on two things:

First, everything has been presented on Christiansen that is generally available. So unless something new comes up, or someone has a specific question about him to address, I think we can leave that alone. Anything you want to know about him, including the FBI report, is already available at our website. So why flog the dead horse.

Second, I'm not sure if everything has been presented on Weber, but the case against him has not been boiled down to a reasonable 'what I have' kind of statement. We've heard the stories about the trips to the NW, Weber's history, things he said, other claims. My opinion is that Skyjack71 should cease repeating these stories because they have become so confusing no one wants to listen. NEW evidence is what's needed here. Otherwise, he is just another suspect until something real in the way of new evidence emerges. And this may happen, you never know.

Before you reach down to your keyboard to make a smart-ass comment about this post, consider this:

By doing that, you are just as much of the problem with having a legit discussion on the case as the people you talk about. YOU are the OTHER HALF of the problem. Both sides would be served by moving to other points in the case. The sim flight path experiment for example. Or maybe pinning down a more detailed timeline from the moment Cooper boarded the plane until the second it touched down in Reno. This was something I thought was sorely missed in Gray's book.


georger

Mar 12, 2013, 9:48 PM
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I think the film Crash is one of the most under-appreciated movies ever done. It addresses human issues in a way no other film has done before or since. Of course, probably the most dramatic scene is the one between Thandie Newton as the woman trapped in the car and Matt Dillon as the racist cop who molested her earlier...now trying to save her life. That's drama for sure.

Uhhhh, you have the wrong film!

Crash as in Disc Channel documentary "Crash" ...
crash testing a 727... It was previously discussed on
this thread. I assumed most people have read this
thread ... most people come here to read the thread
on DB Cooper. A few come for other reasons with other
motives and a barge load of previously unresolved
personal issues having nothing to do with this thread
or anyone here.

http://dsc.discovery.com/...nnel-crashed-727.htm


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Amazon  (D License)

Mar 12, 2013, 9:58 PM
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But there is a SECOND element around here, and it's just as big a problem. Without naming names, let's just say that one or two users have gotten into a bad habit of making smart-ass comments with little or no provocation. New visitors see this stuff, and no doubt it drives them away. I have seen comments on other websites occasionally about it.

I just farted in your general direction...!!!!!


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RobertMBlevins

Mar 12, 2013, 10:39 PM
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In reply to:
I think the film Crash is one of the most under-appreciated movies ever done. It addresses human issues in a way no other film has done before or since. Of course, probably the most dramatic scene is the one between Thandie Newton as the woman trapped in the car and Matt Dillon as the racist cop who molested her earlier...now trying to save her life. That's drama for sure.

Uhhhh, you have the wrong film!

Crash as in Disc Channel documentary "Crash" ...
crash testing a 727... It was previously discussed on
this thread. I assumed most people have read this
thread ... most people come here to read the thread
on DB Cooper. A few come for other reasons with other
motives and a barge load of previously unresolved
personal issues having nothing to do with this thread
or anyone here.

http://dsc.discovery.com/...nnel-crashed-727.htm

Yeah, I saw that show. They crashed the plane deliberately with cameras inside. Very good show. The 2004 movie was better though. Angelic

I'll agree some folks here have unresolved personal issues. BK is undoubtably one of them. Part of my post back there was to urge them to grow up and move past that stuff, although it's probably hopeless in BK's case. This thread is seriously suffering because of it. I know this from looking at old posts...when real research was being done a lot more than now.


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skyjack71

Mar 13, 2013, 12:03 AM
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Blevins stated:
In reply to:
But there is a SECOND element around here, and it's just as big a problem. Without naming names, let's just say that one or two users have gotten into a bad habit of making smart-ass comments with little or no provocation. New visitors see this stuff, and no doubt it drives them away. I have seen comments on other websites occasionally about it.


Did U not get the GEST?

U made the thread USELESS for research!

U made the thread about U and promotion!

U will deny this!

U will make a LONG post objecting!

U will pretend U understand something and rattle uselessly about it!

U open your mouth and insert foot!

LOOK in the Mirror! Sure does smell pretty BAD in here! At least I am smart enough to know when the conversations is something I can contribute nothing to. U do not SEE Yourself!

Whew!Crazy


skyjack71

Mar 13, 2013, 12:23 AM
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Do U not understand - U drove away the individuals who need to communicate their expertise on various subjects related to the Cooper EVENTS of 1971. U make senseless posts about subjects U have NO knowledge of! U just cannot see yourself in the Mirror!

Jo doesn't PRETEND to have knowledge of what she knows nothing about. I presented my suspect and I continue to update on the progress or regressions.
I do NOT promote myself! I stay out of discussions I know nothing about - listen and learn!


UPDATE:
As for new information regarding Weber - there is some, but nothing U would care about and things I am not ready to talk about.

"U can put Duane in a chute, but U have to put him on the plane".
What if I could do that?

What if I can put him in a chute with known jumpers in the forestry?

Will it put him on the plane?
NO!

What if one of these individuals had something left on his door! Would he have acknowledge that he knew who Cooper was or could have been? Would he have been fearful of being accused of being an accomplice?

Remember the pic of Ed Huran and the escapee he looked like!
Was that just JO imagining things? Age progression - sure is a wonderful thing!


RobertMBlevins

Mar 13, 2013, 12:39 AM
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Skyjack71 says in part:

Quote:
'Do U not understand - U drove away the individuals who need to communicate their expertise on various subjects related to the Cooper EVENTS of 1971. U make senseless posts about subjects U have NO knowledge of! U just cannot see yourself in the Mirror!...'

I don't suppose your 5,500+ posts without a single thing that can be checked had anything to do with 'driving people away'? Crazy

I support your right to present any case on Weber, or any evidence. Anything else I've already said on that.


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skyjack71

Mar 13, 2013, 3:15 AM
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I don't suppose your 5,500+ posts without a single thing that can be checked had anything to do with 'driving people away'? Crazy
.

Take a poll on that one.
The people came here to see what was happening with my story. We did very well and then along came Blevins to promote and to put anyone down but his suspect.

Tonight it was decided I would go back to the N.E. Sure a lot to do to prepare for this, but it will be done unless the authorities take step to get it done before I get there. I will be doing things I asked other to help me with, like you Blevins but you were so into your promotions you didn't have time to check out Coure d alene and Missoula and Spokane for the footprints. You were told about a specific place but you didn't even bother to check the smokejump museum out at all.

Part of the story is right there right under your nose and on to the Indian reservation and then to Spokane. I will do this and if I should die in the process - I will have given 100% to the cause. Expect I am the only one who knows what I am looking for.

Maybe I will sprout wings and fly like a bird and then soaring over the forest and the mountains and streams reliving the history of the area in the 1940's. Then on to Seattle and just for fun up to Alaska.

Then the trip back down the West coast thru Oregon and over to Bemerton and then to Tahoe and have a little fun.

Then to AZ where I have family and then hit the high road again to Co and Nebraska and to Kansas and then to Canton Ohio where he was born and place what remains I do NOT release in Wa on the ground he was born in in the yr. of the Loraine tornado.


sailshaw

Mar 13, 2013, 7:06 AM
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skyjack71

You say:

" Then on to Seattle and just for fun up to Alaska."

I say that when you are in Seattle, I would like to invite you to lunch with Bruce Smith and myself at Seattle Yacht Club and on my ticket. We can compare notes on the DB Cooper Caper and get to put a face on our nom-de-plumes. Let me know when you plan to be here and I will try to fit it into my plans.

Bob Sailshaw
sailshaw@aol.com


(This post was edited by sailshaw on Mar 13, 2013, 7:12 AM)


RobertMBlevins

Mar 13, 2013, 1:21 PM
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Skyjack71 says in part:

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'Tonight it was decided I would go back to the N.E. Sure a lot to do to prepare for this, but it will be done unless the authorities take step to get it done before I get there. I will be doing things I asked other to help me with, like you Blevins but you were so into your promotions you didn't have time to check out Coure d alene and Missoula and Spokane for the footprints. You were told about a specific place but you didn't even bother to check the smokejump museum out at all...'

Check out what...for WHAT footprints? I do have one full-time and one part-time job, you know. Sometimes your 'information' is so lacking in detail there is no place to begin. Like a forty-year old picture of a guy in Salt Lake City and no other identifying information, for example. And I'm not a detective agency. I only have the same access to records as anyone else on the internet, unless I want to pay for those records. And that is not my job. Skipp Porteous is retired, by the way, and no longer investigating the Cooper case.

Too many hints, too much mystery...not enough information. Too many long and convoluted posts that fail to get to the point, or name any possible witnesses who can be contacted. That's no way to run an investigation, or to acquire any real information on a subject. ('Was Weber Cooper?')

EDIT: I had a post up for a minute, but I deleted it. Decided it might not be smart to give details publicly on our new computer system. I got carried away there. Smile

Jo: If you come to Seattle, you need any help, let me know. Or maybe you want to visit. No problem. Trying to figure out what you're presenting might be tricky sometimes, but I still support your right to present it.


(This post was edited by RobertMBlevins on Mar 13, 2013, 3:23 PM)


skyjack71

Mar 13, 2013, 11:59 PM
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Wonder why U know who thinks it was so ODD I presented a picture of a guy in Salt Lake. WHY the hell did HE think I posted it in the 1st place?

I posted it because I was looking for answers just like you make your posts about Petersen. It was part of the search efforts I needed to make to uncover the things I DID not know.

I do KNOW the Salt Lake photo WAS not just a pic of a passerby, but someone who KNEW Duane Weber! The answer to that one pic might clear up a lot of things for some people - including myself.

I did NOT come to the thread to PROMOTE a subject - I came to learn MORE about jumpers, to see if anyone recognized him, to explore his past and HOPE that someone passing by or thru the thread might have some answers.

Yet, the one person who puts me down the most is the one person who has utilized this thread for one purpose to PROMOTE his subject and his book - NOT to explore the possibilities and definitely not to LEARN!

Sailshaw you have presented your subject and told why u think he was Cooper and I presented Weber and why I think he is Cooper. You nor I have tried to SELL a story about our subjects.
Neither Sailshaw nor Jo Weber have written a book about their subjects.

I have definitely been given the opportunity over the yrs to exploit Weber - but chose to go with evidence and truths and not stories contrived to sell a book.

I would rather go down as having tried to find the truth rather than
having written a book about a person who could NOT have been Cooper. AT least I am trying to do the right thing - some individuals absolutely have NO Scruples.

All being said - the LAST PERSON ON EARTH ANYONE WITH A COOPER SUSPECT NEEDS would be assistance from Blevins.

Lots of real people try to help, but one has to be a little leary about information forthcoming after 40 yrs. I try NOT to get my hopes up when new information comes my way - but for some reason a lot more are coming forth NOW than they did 17 yrs ago...perhaps because the case is 40 yrs old and is being closed.

Perhaps the FBI had lots of people contacting them, but now with the internet - perhaps they can correlate the new and the old into a more orderly exploration of this old crime and the suspect from the past.

HARD to believe that a man Could get NATIONAL attention by Skyjacking a plane and NO ONE I dentified him in 40 yrs. If he died - NO one missed him!

WinkWonder HOW many phone calls the FBI got about individuals they suspected of being Cooper?

UnimpressedSuspects presented and NO way to correlate them all. Maybe NOW the FBI is searching thru the old files and computerizing all of the prior leads to see how many of them targeted a specific suspect!

DO U THINK!Smile


(This post was edited by skyjack71 on Mar 14, 2013, 12:42 AM)


MeyerLouie

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In reply to:
But there is a SECOND element around here, and it's just as big a problem. Without naming names, let's just say that one or two users have gotten into a bad habit of making smart-ass comments with little or no provocation. New visitors see this stuff, and no doubt it drives them away. I have seen comments on other websites occasionally about it.

I just farted in your general direction...!!!!!

__________________________________________________

But there's someone around here called the 'vitriole magnet,' and I wonder how many people stay away from, and have left, the thread because of him. I'm getting a real strong feeling right now, and I believe it's gas....oh oh, I just let one go too.


Amazon  (D License)

Mar 14, 2013, 8:20 AM
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In reply to:
In reply to:
In reply to:
But there is a SECOND element around here, and it's just as big a problem. Without naming names, let's just say that one or two users have gotten into a bad habit of making smart-ass comments with little or no provocation. New visitors see this stuff, and no doubt it drives them away. I have seen comments on other websites occasionally about it.

I just farted in your general direction...!!!!!

__________________________________________________

But there's someone around here called the 'vitriole magnet,' and I wonder how many people stay away from, and have left, the thread because of him. I'm getting a real strong feeling right now, and I believe it's gas....oh oh, I just let one go too.

This thread makes my head hurt...A whole lot of ka-ka goin on.


skyjack71

Mar 14, 2013, 5:22 PM
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http://www.usnews.com/...mysteries/cooper.htm

Unsure13 yrs old article never forgotten, but obscured by the hype of Cooper Wannabes and Book writers. The solution was IN PLANE SITE and baffled the FBI for 40 yrs - but, not his widow!

Wink
Will the Computer age finally solve this old case? I hope so Mr. Cooper - I really hope so!

Ann was wrong about the handwriting in the Book, but NOT mentioned was a statement she and his soon to be widow overheard - "I put a 163K in a bucket and can't find the bucket". Both remembered a different amount, but both his widow and Ann heard the same statement.Blush

Did Cooper find his bucket?

WinkWill the FBI after YRS of chasing Wannabe's actually be able to use their resources in a productive way - regarding a study of the 40 yr old files?

1000's and 1000's of leads were called into the FBI about suspects, but was there a common denominator in a cluster of contacts?. Information the FBI had NO way of compiling in the early days of the investigation. The use of Computers and the Internet kept taking this old crime front and forward yr after yr for the last 15 yrs.

FrownThe case became a thorn in the side of the FBI and bled their financial resources. If they ever found Cooper he would probably be dead - if alive today Cooper would be approx 87 yrs old.

The FBI is stopping the flow of their financial resouces by closing this old case. Just how will they do that? The answer to that question is WAIT & SEE!Wink

SmileCoolUnsureShocked

You'll Never Know if You don't know NOW! A song Cooper sang to his widow on their Wedding night and a song he sang in his past to many other women. Old women and old stories! How many broken hearts did Cooper leave on his path thru life?Unimpressed


(This post was edited by skyjack71 on Mar 14, 2013, 6:05 PM)


RobertMBlevins

Mar 14, 2013, 9:00 PM
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In reply to:
In reply to:
In reply to:
In reply to:
But there is a SECOND element around here, and it's just as big a problem. Without naming names, let's just say that one or two users have gotten into a bad habit of making smart-ass comments with little or no provocation. New visitors see this stuff, and no doubt it drives them away. I have seen comments on other websites occasionally about it.

I just farted in your general direction...!!!!!

__________________________________________________

But there's someone around here called the 'vitriole magnet,' and I wonder how many people stay away from, and have left, the thread because of him. I'm getting a real strong feeling right now, and I believe it's gas....oh oh, I just let one go too.

This thread makes my head hurt...A whole lot of ka-ka goin on.

Robert replies: Some validating thoughts from Part Two of my article,
Life in Cooperland:

Quote:
'The main motivator at Cooperland DZ is competition. Who did it? Will I be the one to discover the truth? How can I discredit everyone else's claims? Can I find OTHER articles on Cooper to trash, ones not monitored by Paul Quade? (Answer: It happens) Will I run out of beer before I finish posting? That last part I mention because it's obvious some DZ posters' typing skills deteriorate substantially after nightfall...'

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'There is a Big Rule for anyone posting at Dropzone: If you've written a book about a suspect in the case (guilty) you are going to get abuse from other posters. You should expect this as a matter of normal business. They view you as a Threat to the Discussion, because you might actually solve the case and that would be counterproductive to the discussion. Sometimes things make sense even when it seems like they don't, and this is one of them...'

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'Sometimes a newbie comes aboard with innocent questions, but they don't usually stay long. Others point to the thread as nothing more than a game of one-upsmanship and using whatever means necessary to discredit anyone else. However, a core group of folks still hang out there and they will work together occasionally without tearing at each other like rabid dogs. 'Occasionally' is the key word here...'

Pretty well sums it up, I think.


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Robert99

Mar 14, 2013, 9:45 PM
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Robert[MBlevins] writes:

Some validating thoughts from Part Two of my article,
Life in Cooperland:

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'The main motivator at Cooperland DZ is competition. Who did it? Will I be the one to discover the truth? How can I discredit everyone else's claims?

Robert99 replies:

Blevins, You are sadly mistaken. The main motivator on this thread is COOPERATION. At the present time, it is being conducted mainly by PM's and direct e-mails and phone calls. If you are smart enough to write a book, then you should have already figured that out. And Paul Quade is not a problem to anyone that doesn't deserve to have problems.

RobertMBlevins writes:

Quote:
'There is a Big Rule for anyone posting at Dropzone: If you've written a book about a suspect in the case (guilty) you are going to get abuse from other posters. You should expect this as a matter of normal business. They view you as a Threat to the Discussion, because you might actually solve the case and that would be counterproductive to the discussion. Sometimes things make sense even when it seems like they don't, and this is one of them...'

Robert99 replies:

Your last sentence above doesn't make "sense" to me, but you seem to be under the impression that anyone who doesn't agree with you is abusing you. Sorry to have to tell you this, but there are people on this thread that know a lot more about the Cooper matter than you. If you feel that they consider you a threat, someone who might actually solve the Cooper case, or a Threat to the Discussion, then relax. You are NOWHERE close to solving the Cooper case and neither is Jo Weber.

Blevins writes:

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'Sometimes a newbie comes aboard with innocent questions, but they don't usually stay long. Others point to the thread as nothing more than a game of one-upsmanship and using whatever means necessary to discredit anyone else. However, a core group of folks still hang out there and they will work together occasionally without tearing at each other like rabid dogs. 'Occasionally' is the key word here...'

Pretty well sums it up, I think.

Robert99 replies:

I presume that the "core group of folks" you mention above is yourself.

Robert99


RobertMBlevins

Mar 14, 2013, 11:10 PM
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Robert99: On my column at Newsvine, which has been visited more than two million times since 2007, I have a reputation for 'calling 'em like I see 'em' and I think you ignore the obvious evidence.

For example, when you state that the main motivation at the Cooper DZ thread is 'cooperation'.

That may have been true in the past, but it certainly isn't true now, and I am not the only one to blame for this. If it were, Georger, Meyer Louie, and myself would not have been banned by Quade. Meyer for name-calling, Georger for I don't know what, and yours truly because of a cartoon I posted once that was rather insulting to one of those two.

Yes, it's true that there are people here who know much more about the Cooper case than I. And I have said this several times. But it's ALSO true that none of these experts have solved the case. And there is sometimes a double-standard going around here which I find not only irritating, but inherently unfair. Let me give an example:

One one hand, some of these 'experts' were disputing the ownership of the parachutes used in the hijacking, i.e. Cossey or otherwise. And some of these same people questioned Cossey's reliability on testimony, since he's been known to play games with both callers, and the media.

Then...when I called into question the identification of the Amboy chute, which was basically COSSEY'S i.d. on it...suddenly these same experts were willing to swallow Cossey's word on the Amboy chute without question. Why? Because I was the one who questioned it.

This is a double-standard. The point is that although the chute may not have been a Cooper chute, research around here is often judged not on its content, but WHO presents it.

Cooperation? A couple of the major posters on this thread put up smart-ass comments without addressing any point of the post they are commenting on. Double standard.

You should see some of the comments that appear about the DZ thread on other websites. I have. The general consensus is that it is nothing except barely tolerable name-calling and fighting goes on around here. There is no peer pressure applied to put a halt to that, and so it continues.

THIS is the REAL reason why people finally give up and either just read the posts and shake their heads, or go elsewhere. I took a lot of heat for questioning the Marla Fable, and the Janet Fable, and yet I saw no one who really supported those stories. Double standard.


georger

Mar 14, 2013, 11:22 PM
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In reply to:
Robert99: On my column at Newsvine, which has been visited more than two million times since 2007, I have a reputation for 'calling 'em like I see 'em' and I think you ignore the obvious evidence.

For example, when you state that the main motivation at the Cooper DZ thread is 'cooperation'.

That may have been true in the past, but it certainly isn't true now, and I am not the only one to blame for this. If it were, Georger, Meyer Louie, and myself would not have been banned by Quade. Meyer for name-calling, Georger for I don't know what, and yours truly because of a cartoon I posted once that was rather insulting to one of those two.

Yes, it's true that there are people here who know much more about the Cooper case than I. And I have said this several times. But it's ALSO true that none of these experts have solved the case. And there is sometimes a double-standard going around here which I find not only irritating, but inherently unfair. Let me give an example:

One one hand, some of these 'experts' were disputing the ownership of the parachutes used in the hijacking, i.e. Cossey or otherwise. And some of these same people questioned Cossey's reliability on testimony, since he's been known to play games with both callers, and the media.

Then...when I called into question the identification of the Amboy chute, which was basically COSSEY'S i.d. on it...suddenly these same experts were willing to swallow Cossey's word on the Amboy chute without question. Why? Because I was the one who questioned it.

This is a double-standard. The point is that although the chute may not have been a Cooper chute, research around here is often judged not on its content, but WHO presents it.

Cooperation? A couple of the major posters on this thread put up smart-ass comments without addressing any point of the post they are commenting on. Double standard.

You should see some of the comments that appear about the DZ thread on other websites. I have. The general consensus is that it is nothing except barely tolerable name-calling and fighting goes on around here. There is no peer pressure applied to put a halt to that, and so it continues.

THIS is the REAL reason why people finally give up and either just read the posts and shake their heads, or go elsewhere. I took a lot of heat for questioning the Marla Fable, and the Janet Fable, and yet I saw no one who really supported those stories. Double standard.

'Being an intellectual creates a lot of questions and no answers...'
Janis Joplin

Hey Janis! You can't force people to talk to you or pay
attention to you if they chose not to.

Why can't you get that through your head?

Good night Irene -

Let's all join in a going away song -

Ol' man river,
Dat ol' man river
He mus'know sumpin'
But don't say nuthin',
He jes'keeps rollin'
He keeps on rollin' along.

He don' plant taters/tators,
He don't plant cotton,
An' dem dat plants'em
is soon forgotten,
But ol'man river,
He jes keeps rollin'along.

You an'me, we sweat an' strain,
Body all achin' an' racket wid pain,
Tote dat barge!
Lif' dat bale!
Git a little drunk
An' you land in jail.

Ah gits weary
An' sick of tryin'
Ah'm tired of livin'
An' skeered of dyin',
But ol' man river,
He jes'keeps rolling' along.

Ol' man river,
Dat ol' man river
He mus'know sumpin'
But don't say nuthin',
He jes'keeps rollin'
He keeps on rollin' along.


(This post was edited by georger on Mar 14, 2013, 11:43 PM)


RobertMBlevins

Mar 14, 2013, 11:46 PM
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Re: [georger] The Dogs of War [In reply to] Can't Post

Georger says in part:

Quote:
'Hey Janis! You can't force people to talk to you or pay
attention to you if they chose not to.

Why can't you get that through your head?

Good night Irene -

Let's all join in a going away song -

Ol' man river,
Dat ol' man river
He mus'know sumpin'
But don't say nuthin',
He jes'keeps rollin'
He keeps on rollin' along.

He don' plant taters/tators,
He don't plant cotton,
An' dem dat plants'em
is soon forgotten,
But ol'man river,
He jes keeps rollin'along.

You an'me, we sweat an' strain,
Body all achin' an' racket wid pain,
Tote dat barge!
Lif' dat bale!
Git a little drunk
An' you land in jail.

Ah gits weary
An' sick of tryin'
Ah'm tired of livin'
An' skeered of dyin',
But ol' man river,
He jes'keeps rolling' along.

Ol' man river,
Dat ol' man river
He mus'know sumpin'
But don't say nuthin',
He jes'keeps rollin'
He keeps on rollin' along....'

I rest my case. Crazy


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