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RobertMBlevins

Mar 15, 2013, 10:52 PM
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Georger says in part:

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'We have been over this a billion times in response to Blevins latest tirade posted in the late night hours.JT speculates it may be hitting the bottle late every night? Laugh...'

Robert: I drink VERY LITTLE and VERY SELDOM. I don't 'hit the bottle,' and I never have, and as far as I know I've never met Jerry Thomas. What I said the other day wasn't a tirade. It was the truth as I saw it. As you know, I later did a three-part article about Cooperland and some of the folks who hang out here.

Georger says:
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'Geoff Gray calls it just 'making trouble each and every night ... in the snakepit'.

Robert: Gray says you've misquoted him occasionally, and he's denied saying that crap you attributed to him (Blevins is a nut, etc). I have his email on this subject, and he's very clear on it. A 'snakepit' implies a lot of snakes. From speaking to Gray about the Cooper thread at Dropzone, I already know he was speaking in general about what goes on here, not one person.

Georger says in part:
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'Personally I don't think it has anything to do with competition. I think its just some one-man-band standing before the City Council chiding the city to dismiss the City Metropolitan Orchestra so one guy with a drum and an armpit flute and a Jew's harp can be the center of attention for a while, until he decides to take up nuclear physics next, and then it will be paleontology and ornithology ...'

Robert: You are referring to the annual celebration in my hometown called 'Auburn Days'. They give me the Auburn Avenue Theatre on the weekend of the festival. You are misinformed. I did a series of three slideshows on KC at the Auburn Avenue Theatre, the first year. The next two years, we passed out free refreshments all weekend instead, had NO displays of AB titles, and I invited OTHER Northwest authors to do readings and display THEIR books. Same thing we're doing this year. You just haven't a clue sometimes, sorry to say. After you started just making things up off the top of your head, your opinion no longer means much to me anyway. Crazy

Georger:
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'So much for the guy in the Big Bird suit who cries foul at every play in the game! I want to hear the fat lady sing!

Robert: I don't cry foul. But if you make stuff up (and you HAVE), I'm going to point it out and let people know what the truth is. You think you can just make up anything you wish about someone and no one's going to say anything? LOL. Welcome to the Reality Hotel. Smile

Skyjack71 says in part:
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'Your particial post above - HOORAY! SlyWink You stated it the WAY it needs to be stated!
He cannot SEE himself because of ALL of the Feathers. Even I would NOT be posting so much if it was NOT for having to make this BIRD understand that HE cannot critize others for what HE himself BLATANLY posts over and over!

If someone can GET him to SHUT up - I promise to only make ONE (1) post per day. And in that post I will try to answer any questions directed at me or ask questions about the posting done by others. We are ALL wanting to move forward, but Blevin keeps promoting a subject the FBI refused to even LOOK at much less investigate! Yet, he will critique someone who has presented a subject who the FBI seriously looked at and HAS NOT been able to dismiss!

Quote: "The best suspect " This is a recent quote" and for that I am grateful! "You can put him in a chute, but you have to put him on the plane" - DO not GO making SOMETHING out of these fragments of sentences that is not intended!

Robert: Actually, the FBI did investigate Weber. And they dismissed him. That doesn't mean they were right about it...but it DOES mean that the burden of proof has now fallen to YOU.

You have some amount of nerve talking about promotion. You've been promoting Weber as the skyjacker for nearly two decades, and after all that time you still haven't produced a shred of anything verifiable by anyone, anywhere that links him to the crime. Occasionally, I have had a differing opinion on a point in the case than the FBI. But unlike you, I at least went to the trouble to present some solid reasons why I didn't agree. I suppose the article on the Amboy chute is an example.

You also have a very BAD habit of when anyone posts anything new about the case that might be a threat to your Weber-Quest...you simply try to bury it under another loooooong post, mostly some point where you offer either mystery, a lack of witnesses, or no proof.

You do that a lot.


georger

Mar 15, 2013, 11:44 PM
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RobertMBlevins

Mar 16, 2013, 12:20 AM
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Georger says in part:
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'Personally I don't think it has anything to do with competition.

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Robert: You are referring to the annual celebration in my hometown called 'Auburn Days'. They give me the Auburn Avenue Theatre on the weekend of the festival. You are misinformed. I did a series of three slideshows on KC at the Auburn Avenue Theatre, the first year. The next two years, we passed out free refreshments all weekend instead, had NO displays of AB titles, and I invited OTHER Northwest authors to do readings and display THEIR books. Same thing we're doing this year. You just haven't a clue sometimes, sorry to say. After you started just making things up off the top of your head, your opinion no longer means much to me anyway. Crazy

Huh!?

No Blevins. I was referring to competition - word Meyer used in his post.

You need a CardEx to keep track of your premonitions!
Robert: Really? I think you need a separate folder on your computer to keep track of your statements. You said:

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'I think its just some one-man-band standing before the City Council chiding the city to dismiss the City Metropolitan Orchestra so one guy with a drum and an armpit flute and a Jew's harp can be the center of attention for a while...'

As a matter of fact, it was the City Council who contacted me first about accepting the chairmanship for Adventures in Literature. Not the other way around. (For those who don't know, it's the two-day lit event held at the Auburn Avenue Theatre in Auburn, WA the second weekend of August each year. Saturday is NW writers. Sunday is the poets. There is a big Book Exchange and stuff for kids goes on, including readings and awards and an Art Contest sponsored by the school district. It's all free.)

You're not fooling anybody, Georger. You've addressed that particular event at DZ many times. Many. And mostly badly. Which shows you know exactly zero about it.

Maybe you should just post up another phony quote by Geoff Gray. Crazy A nice guy I might add, who doesn't need you to put words into his mouth.


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skyjack71

Mar 16, 2013, 12:23 AM
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Chill! At least I am trying to chill right now, but not about anything going on in this thread.

Tonight I think I actually went completely off my ROCKER. Maybe something snapped in my mind, but for the first time since all of this started I can see clearly what I did NOT want to believe. Now, YOU can mark me Crazy, Delusional and Off My Rocker.

BRR

No, I do not mean it is cold! No I am NOT saying Duane was not Cooper. Will I WALK away and not look back? Not sure, as I have 18 yrs of my life in this and 17 yrs of marriage to the man.
What is it worth! 1978 to 2013!

That is a lot of yrs and when I think about what I could have done with those yrs. it is not measurable in $'s. How many others have expended yrs of their live on Cooper?

NO ONE would or could believe the REAL story and yet NO ONE believes Duane was Cooper! How many yrs can a secret be kept? No one believe any of the other suspect are Cooper?

Riddles - yes, Riddles!
Don't even try to solve it!
Will the REAL Cooper please stand up! Did he die in 1971 or did he die in 1995? Was the skyjacking part of a plan? Was the skyjacking one man with a grudge? Was the skyjacker a man with a death warrant? Did the skyjacker receive a bounty in 1990 for a deed done well or was it blackmail or did he just retrieve the rest of his bounty?

No One would ever have conceived that 41 yrs later this well orchestrated crime would still remain unsolved - Oh, I did say well orchestrated. Only one person can keep a secret for a life time or did Cooper just vanish off the face of the earth?

If he died in 1971 who buried his body? Who planted the money in the Columbia? Did Cooper double cross someone? Was Cooper loyal to the end? Was Weber a delivery boy? Was the purpose of the money being put on the banks of the river - to put an end to Cooper?

Yea, riddles and more riddles!
The story will go on till the end of time. Cooper destroyed many lives and he will continue to do so...until the truths are known.

No one expected technology and the internet to advance to the point - the crime might actually be solved. Yet, it continues to elude an ending - and perhaps that is the way it should be.

I was told to write a book or do a movie - but, I held out for the truth. Now when the truth comes up and slaps me in the face do I believe it or deny it or do I walk away. Perhaps I am playing U guys, U think? Or perhaps I am really crazy? Even I would NOT deny that tonight!

If I had a bottle of wine - I would have a drink or 2 or maybe even 3 with a toast to Cooper with every glass.

Solving Cooper could be fatal, but to whom? Our way of thinking? Our beliefs? So many people have spent the better part of their lives and many government dollars have been spent - and for what?

Did Cooper die in 1971?
Did Cooper survive to die in 1995? Did Cooper ever really exist? Was it part of covert action? Why would the government sanction a skyjacking? Was it a random act by a loner? What happened to Vickie's father? BRRrrrr I have a chill!

Is there anyone sweating?
Do you flip a coin to see who will do the deed? Did Cooper flip a coin 41 yrs ago?
Will the secrets continue?
Will the real story be told?
What is the real story?
How many lives will be destroyed to keep a secret? Or is there NO secret at all?

SmileUnsure

Georger - I understand why you write in riddles. It is the only way to deal with all of this.


(This post was edited by skyjack71 on Mar 16, 2013, 12:58 AM)


skyjack71

Mar 16, 2013, 1:23 AM
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Robert99 Stated:

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Your last sentence above doesn't make "sense" to me, but you seem to be under the impression that anyone who doesn't agree with you is abusing you. Sorry to have to tell you this, but there are people on this thread that know a lot more about the Cooper matter than you. If you feel that they consider you a threat, someone who might actually solve the Cooper case, or a Threat to the Discussion, then relax. You are NOWHERE close to solving the Cooper case and neither is Jo Weber.

Robert99

Well, Robert 99 perhaps you should read what I just posted.
Perhaps a lot of people need to start asking questions. This thread has become a shield perhaps for some and for some a way to promote themselves.

For me it is an exploration that took me back to GROUND zero, back to the very beginning. What is your stake in this? Why are you here? Who is Georger? Who are you Robert99?

Blevins is a feeder. You have NO idea where I have been and what I had done - you only know what you read in this thread! You do NOT know the woman on the other side of the keyboard.

Did U get suckered in later or where U part of the beginning?
Yea, I am off my Rocker tonight!

Frankly I am as confused as my postings are tonight, but for the first time I see clearly, but will there ever be validation?

What do U do NOW? What do I do NOW? What does the FBI do now? Yea, the excuse is cutting Government spending on an old crime! Who promoted Marla? Did who ever promoted her think that would make JO go away? Trying to put out a fire with a bucket of water.

By the way - What did Georger say that he had to delete so quickly?


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georger

Mar 16, 2013, 1:26 AM
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Tonight I think I actually went completely off my ROCKER. .
Yes you are.


georger

Mar 16, 2013, 2:04 AM
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In reply to:
In reply to:

Georger says in part:
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'Personally I don't think it has anything to do with competition.

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Robert: You are referring to the annual celebration in my hometown called 'Auburn Days'. They give me the Auburn Avenue Theatre on the weekend of the festival. You are misinformed. I did a series of three slideshows on KC at the Auburn Avenue Theatre, the first year. The next two years, we passed out free refreshments all weekend instead, had NO displays of AB titles, and I invited OTHER Northwest authors to do readings and display THEIR books. Same thing we're doing this year. You just haven't a clue sometimes, sorry to say. After you started just making things up off the top of your head, your opinion no longer means much to me anyway. Crazy

Huh!?

No Blevins. I was referring to competition - word Meyer used in his post.

You need a CardEx to keep track of your premonitions!

Robert: Really? I think you need a separate folder on your computer to keep track of your statements. You said:

Quote:
'I think its just some one-man-band standing before the City Council chiding the city to dismiss the City Metropolitan Orchestra so one guy with a drum and an armpit flute and a Jew's harp can be the center of attention for a while...'

As a matter of fact, it was the City Council who contacted me first about accepting the chairmanship for Adventures in Literature. Not the other way around. (For those who don't know, it's the two-day lit event held at the Auburn Avenue Theatre in Auburn, WA the second weekend of August each year. Saturday is NW writers. Sunday is the poets. There is a big Book Exchange and stuff for kids goes on, including readings and awards and an Art Contest sponsored by the school district. It's all free.)

You're not fooling anybody, Georger. You've addressed that particular event at DZ many times. Many. And mostly badly. Which shows you know exactly zero about it.

Maybe you should just post up another phony quote by Geoff Gray. Crazy A nice guy I might add, who doesn't need you to put words into his mouth.
No way can I handle your blitzkrieg of bullshit
above, except to note I was reply to Meyer, not you.
My reference to competition (which you brought up)
and someone going before a City Council had
nothing to do with you or Auburn Washington!?

It's personal information only you would have - yes!?

Its just one more example of you redirecting things,
so can create a straw man and go into tomorrow with
a fresh set of smugness and personal problems
somebody else is going to have to deal with ...

I guess I am just one of your "wage earner sheeple"
expendable victims. At least you haven't accused me
of being an axe murderer yet! I should feel grateful
you have spared me of that, so far!


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RobertMBlevins

Mar 16, 2013, 2:23 AM
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Right.

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Anytime you're ready to return to a serious discussion on the Cooper case, without making stuff up, resorting to insults and personalities, you'll will do this, right?

I don't think this is too much to ask, considering.


377  (F 666)

Mar 16, 2013, 2:33 AM
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Jo wrote
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By the way - What did Georger say that he had to delete so quickly?

Perhaps he didn't delete it Jo. Maybe it "poofed"Wink

In your riddle storm, you asked if Cooper really existed.

The answer is yes. I'm positive he did. The story that he was a fictional person made up by a conspiring crew doesnt hold water.

377


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MeyerLouie

Mar 16, 2013, 6:10 AM
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Jo wrote
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By the way - What did Georger say that he had to delete so quickly?

Perhaps he didn't delete it Jo. Maybe it "poofed"Wink

In your riddle storm, you asked if Cooper really existed.

The answer is yes. I'm positive he did. The story that he was a fictional person made up by a conspiring crew doesnt hold water.

377
__________________________________________________

I've heard DBC existed, he was existential. How do I know this? Because wherever he went, there he was. After 41 years, we've entered a new dimension of time and space, a place we call "the bizarre world of the beserk", aka the world of the "nebulously nefarious." It's all "up in the air," a "fly by night" experience. I continue to be confused, but at least now I'm confused at a higher level and about more important things. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. It's the truth.

Is it over yet....? That was my impression of Bob Knoss. A pathetic attempt, no doubt, but you know what they say -- imitation is the highest form of flattery. Reaching 70 is a major milestone in life, a major achievement. Happy birthday Bob, and congratulations. May the best of your yesterdays be the worst of your tomorrows.

MeyerLouie


airtwardo  (D License)

Mar 16, 2013, 7:31 AM
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In reply to:
Jo wrote
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By the way - What did Georger say that he had to delete so quickly?

Perhaps he didn't delete it Jo. Maybe it "poofed"Wink

In your riddle storm, you asked if Cooper really existed.

The answer is yes. I'm positive he did. The story that he was a fictional person made up by a conspiring crew doesnt hold water.

377
__________________________________________________

I've heard DBC existed, he was existential. How do I know this? Because wherever he went, there he was. After 41 years, we've entered a new dimension of time and space, a place we call "the bizarre world of the beserk", aka the world of the "nebulously nefarious." It's all "up in the air," a "fly by night" experience. I continue to be confused, but at least now I'm confused at a higher level and about more important things. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. It's the truth.

Is it over yet....? That was my impression of Bob Knoss. A pathetic attempt, no doubt, but you know what they say -- imitation is the highest form of flattery. Reaching 70 is a major milestone in life, a major achievement. Happy birthday Bob, and congratulations. May the best of your yesterdays be the worst of your tomorrows.

MeyerLouie

Cool


georger

Mar 16, 2013, 8:17 AM
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Right.

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'Post(s) Deleted by Georger'.


Anytime you're ready to return to a serious discussion on the Cooper case, without making stuff up, resorting to insults and personalities, you'll will do this, right?

I don't think this is too much to ask, considering.

If it means you wont be calling people at 3:00am
blaring your Youtube music over the phone, the same
Youtube music you've just posted a link to at DZ ...
well then yes, Sister.

Living under the thumb of RobertMBlevins 24/7 is
sure fun! Never a moment's peace. 10,000 claims
and complaints and special instructions to have to follow -

He doesn't think this is too much to ask, considering.

I should feel grateful to have been touched and
illuminated by the great, RobertMBlevins. Like
Geestman, Sluggo, Marla, Gray etal my flight
response is kicking on ... all stalking RobertMBlevins
because he is our friend and righteous and true.

Frown


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Robert99

Mar 16, 2013, 12:12 PM
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If he [Cooper] died in 1971 who buried his body? Who planted the money in the Columbia?

Mother Nature has been known to do such things in the normal course of events.

Robert99


Robert99

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Who is Georger? Who are you Robert99?

Jo, Blevins is easy to figure out. As I have stated before, the real mystery on this thread is you. Who are you, what are you doing here, what are you getting out of it?

And nothing you or Blevins are doing has anything to do with solving the Cooper hijacking.

Robert99


RobertMBlevins

Mar 16, 2013, 12:47 PM
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Who is Georger? Who are you Robert99?

Jo, Blevins is easy to figure out. As I have stated before, the real mystery on this thread is you. Who are you, what are you doing here, what are you getting out of it?

And nothing you or Blevins are doing has anything to do with solving the Cooper hijacking.

Robert99

Damn. I didn't realize I was so transparent and all. I'll respectfully disagree with your comment about 'doing nothing to help solve the Cooper hijacking,' but that's another story.

Georger: It wasn't me who allegedly called you at 3:00 AM and blared music in your ear, although I have posted up a YouTube link here on the thread occasionally.

I find it humorous that some folks here went ballistic over some of the comments in my Newsvine Cooperland article...by doing the things I pointed out were going on anyway. It's like someone going road-rage crazy after reading an article about road rage. Smile

Hardly a single thing positive has gone on here for the last few pages, because some people have nothing to post except attacks on others, or they desperately make things up in an attempt to discredit. Meanwhile...outsiders who once viewed this thread as a legit investigation, a source of Cooper information, just laugh. And I don't see where that does anyone any good at all.


georger

Mar 16, 2013, 1:22 PM
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In reply to:
In reply to:
Who is Georger? Who are you Robert99?

Jo, Blevins is easy to figure out. As I have stated before, the real mystery on this thread is you. Who are you, what are you doing here, what are you getting out of it?

And nothing you or Blevins are doing has anything to do with solving the Cooper hijacking.

Robert99

Damn. I didn't realize I was so transparent and all. I'll respectfully disagree with your comment about 'doing nothing to help solve the Cooper hijacking,' but that's another story.

Georger: It wasn't me who allegedly called you at 3:00 AM and blared music in your ear, although I have posted up a YouTube link here on the thread occasionally.

I find it humorous that some folks here went ballistic over some of the comments in my Newsvine Cooperland article...by doing the things I pointed out were going on anyway. It's like someone going road-rage crazy after reading an article about road rage. Smile

Hardly a single thing positive has gone on here for the last few pages, because some people have nothing to post except attacks on others, or they desperately make things up in an attempt to discredit. Meanwhile...outsiders who once viewed this thread as a legit investigation, a source of Cooper information, just laugh. And I don't see where that does anyone any good at all.

'Being an intellectual creates a lot of questions and no answers...'
Janis Joplin

I agree. Shit just happens out of the blue - when you
are around.

According to you - we are all doing it to ourselves!

The phone call I received was mere seconds after
you posted a Youtube music link here at DZ, the
same music as you had linked here. You have
deluged us with Youtube music links since coming
here, not a few as you redirect and modify and alter
the facts.

It's strange you don't claim I'm making this up. You
claim I make everything else up! In the case of
phone calls there is a record.

Things just magically happen - for no reason -
wherever you go on the internet.

You have now conquered Dropzone. Why not move on
to new fertile ground, before you get banned here, or
lose your internet privileges altogether. ?

Not going to happen. It's Blevins shit here or nothing.
So I guess it's nothing.

BTW I have not read whatever you have concocted
and posted to Newsvine concerning 'a personality
disorder's view of the DB Cooper Thread on
Dropzone'! Quite obviously you have left yourself out
of the equation in fudging together some further
attack describing what you yourself have had a central
role in creating! Hopfully you catagorised us as being
some of your "wage earner sheeple" who "have the
intelligence of the average sixth grader" ?

So congrats in advance for fucking up Newsvine, like you have fucked up everything else you have touched
since coming here.

It's no small achievement stumbling around as you
have for three years, in debt, pissed off, numerous
enemies, and with only an editorial or two at Newsvine
to show for it!

Good luck "sheeple"!


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RobertMBlevins

Mar 16, 2013, 2:32 PM
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Georger says in part:

Quote:
'The phone call I received was mere seconds after
you posted a Youtube music link here at DZ, the
same music as you had linked here. You have
deluged us with Youtube music links since coming
here, not a few as you redirect and modify and alter
the facts.

It's strange you don't claim I'm making this up. You
claim I make everything else up! In the case of
phone calls there is a record...'

Of course there is. No, I don't think you made it up about the phone call, but it wasn't me who made the call. Go ahead and post the Caller ID information. It's a simple matter to narrow down a number to at least the area code and city where it originated. This is MY area code prefix: 253. This is the first three numbers on my phone: 929. The 929 is a number issued by Comcast Cable, since we have the bundle deal going here. My cell phone is also 253, and the first three numbers are 737.

I'm sorry you got that call, though. Seriously...as angry as some people have been at me, or with all the Cooper Nuts out there...no one has done that one to me. I don't blame you for being mad about it.

Your solution is obvious. Set your phone to reject callers who use unlisted numbers, unless they do *82 first. This makes their number visible on your Caller ID. It might be different on your phone system. On ours, I think you have to hit *60 to enable this no-one-can-get-through-who-is-not-ID'd thing.

I don't know where you got the idea I was trying to 'conquer' Dropzone. Don't you think I would rather see posts that discuss the case, rather than Blevins this or that? Of course I would. This thread isn't about me, it's about Cooper. Some people forget that. I think the only time I REALLY came down hard on Cooper-related posts concern the Janet Fable or Marla's story. I just thought both were BS from start to finish. Especially Marla, because ever since she forwarded that story and burned the FBI with it...the FBI is no longer forthcoming with information. You want to talk about damaging any legit investigation into the case? She's a good example. Maybe the best example. Angelic

EDIT: Come on, now. Don't get yourself banned. We may not agree on some things, but I do respect the large amount of work you've done on the case. I would go back and edit a bit. Geez.

BTW: Not in debt anymore. Other sales finally made up for the Big Hole Where We Dumped All the Money Chasing Cooper. Smile The recent contract with the resort chain didn't hurt, either. Cooper, LOL. No one will ever get rich off of him, that's for sure.


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skyjack71

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The answer is yes. I'm positive he did. The story that he was a fictional person made up by a conspiring crew doesn't hold water.

377

The only mention EVER made involving a member of the crew in all of these yrs - was made by BK. NO ONE else!

Now in my Off my Rocker mode I might bite into any thing!

BK never knew Duane Weber, he just WISHES he had. Where the things come from inside of BK's mind are needless to say MIND BOGGLING! Bruce would claim MIND CONTROL!

Was BK involved as he claimed or did he take an article with a picture of man he had met and connect it to a group in the Complex who talked about jumping and skydiving.

Something in BK's mind connect the picture of Weber with Cooper and with skydiving.

1. He did NOT know Duane Weber?
2. So far no one has proved Weber was Cooper.

Now that he have 1 & 2 out of the way - Why does BK associate his memories with a government planned activity.

1. Why is he so fixated on Weber as Cooper?

2. Why is he fixated on conspiracy or government sanctioned activity?

3. Does he have buried within his mind knowledge of the crime? If so perhaps it is buried very deeply..

4. If number 3 is true - might explain why he hitched a ride on Weber, but how does one find that deep seated memory within his mind?

5. Did he actually witness something as a young man - that yrs later he attached to Cooper & a planned crime?

6. Perhaps what he witnessed was just a bunch of guys in the complex out doing a little skyjump planning on the week-end.

7. Could he have taken this harmless seed - and store it away?

8. Did the story about Weber in the US News and World reports in 2000 caused this man (who already had issues) to suddenly believe the weekend outing of others living in his complex were part of a conspiracy.

9. He had problems that existed before he contacted me. The story about Weber fueled false memories. Each conversation became more detailed on his end - and then 3 months laters later he would present names or something I baited him with in a prior conversation as part of HIS memory.

10. Protect and DO NO HARM!
I should have realized he had a problem and walked away. I didn't just like you guys PUT up with me!

11. One could draw a paralled between Jo & Knoss - but please do NOT. Jo has told her story the same since day one and explored Duane's actions and what he said during our life time together and dug into his past. Jo lived with this man.

12. What was buried with in the mind of Knoss? WHY did Knoss fabricate the record keeping and contoct the story about Duane?

13. Did BK ever actually meet Duane Weber? The image of Weber is buried within his mind but Duane did live in the area for about 6 weeks. Perhaps - A bar, a restaurant or have lived in the same complex?

14. Knoss sees Weber's face in the U.S. News and world reports and it is a story about skyjacking.15. Knoss remembers these guys who lived in his complex jumping - perhaps he envied them.

16. His mind starts to associate the picture in the article with the activies at the complex he lived in.

17. He had an emotional probem to begin with and he fixated on Weber as the jumper!

Please Knoss do NOT reply to this POST - leave it be! Do NOT even acknowledge it - go on with your life or what is left of it.

Set yourself FREE! You fed off of our contacts - you made associations where there were none. Yes, U did fabricate a lot.

The fabrications where the clues I explored - and they DID not PAN out, but your mind would NOT let it go!

1. You met Weber briefly in 1966
2. Some jumpers live in the complex.
3. You see an article with Weber's picture in 2000.

Then with you connecting DOTS that did NOT connect U made lives pretty miserable for the Co-pilot and his family.

Do one thing RIGHT! Send a letter of apology to the Co-pilot explaining how and why you came to your conclusions and the reasons for your accusation against him. Hopefully now U will see what transformed within your mind.



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RobertMBlevins

Mar 16, 2013, 3:39 PM
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For the record, I don't believe the Cooper hijacking was a government-sponsored event to force changes to airline safety rules. (Done with the tacit approval of President Richard Nixon)

Without evidence, this has to go into the realm of conspiracy theories like these:

The Moon Landings Were Faked

Aliens Recovered At Roswell, NM

North America was discovered by the Knights Templar

The Port Chicago Disaster in 1944 was actually a nuclear test.

It's a long list. On the first three, there is actually MORE evidence that those stories might be true, as opposed to the BK Fable on Cooper, which relies on zero evidence. On the last one, the Port Chicago disaster was a munitions explosion, non-nuclear. Smile


MeyerLouie

Mar 16, 2013, 5:28 PM
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In reply to:
For the record, I don't believe the Cooper hijacking was a government-sponsored event to force changes to airline safety rules. (Done with the tacit approval of President Richard Nixon)

Without evidence, this has to go into the realm of conspiracy theories like these:

The Moon Landings Were Faked

Aliens Recovered At Roswell, NM

North America was discovered by the Knights Templar

The Port Chicago Disaster in 1944 was actually a nuclear test.

And finally:

Ken Christiansen is NOT DB Cooper. Actually, Ken Christiansen was the leader of a religious cult. He claimed that when you die, your soul goes to a crawl space in Buckley, Washington.


Fact of fiction? You be the judge.

MeyerLouie


RobertMBlevins

Mar 16, 2013, 6:24 PM
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In reply to:
In reply to:
For the record, I don't believe the Cooper hijacking was a government-sponsored event to force changes to airline safety rules. (Done with the tacit approval of President Richard Nixon)

Without evidence, this has to go into the realm of conspiracy theories like these:

The Moon Landings Were Faked

Aliens Recovered At Roswell, NM

North America was discovered by the Knights Templar

The Port Chicago Disaster in 1944 was actually a nuclear test.

And finally:

Ken Christiansen is NOT DB Cooper. Actually, Ken Christiansen was the leader of a religious cult. He claimed that when you die, your soul goes to a crawl space in Buckley, Washington.


Fact of fiction? You be the judge.

MeyerLouie

Neither. Nobody knows for sure. YOU be the judge.

I thought we were basically finished talking about Kenny...and yet you bring him up again. Fine. Here's the final report on him...again.

As I've said before, there is a certain amount of witness testimony and evidence that MAY lead to the idea KC was involved. Do I know for sure? Not a chance.

I've recently found out (through her daughter and grandsons) that the witness known as 'Dawn J' (Bernie Geestman's sister) is now living full-time with relatives. I withheld her full name for years because she lived alone. I've been given permission to reveal her name publicly:

Dawn J. Andrusko, of Fox Island, WA. This very nice lady (picture attached) freely admitted to receiving a $5,000 cash loan in April 1972 from Christiansen, said she and some of her friends thought Christiansen might be the hijacker from the start, (but had trouble believing it because he was such a nice guy) ID'd the tie tack as one she had seen Christiansen wear occasionally, said he owned a toupee but she never saw him with it again after November 71, among other things.

She stood up against her brother Bernie, verifying all this testimony to Marisa Kagan at History Channel, but said she didn't want to appear on TV against her brother. She used the money to put a down payment on a house in Buckley, WA. At the time, she and her four kids were living with the Geestmans. Her brother was the go-between for the money, and later the purchase of Christiansen's house. She had recently moved to WA, after getting a divorce in Minnesota. Her most famous quote from the interview, where she comments about Christiansen:

Quote:
'So THAT'S where he got all the money...figures.'


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mrshutter45

Mar 16, 2013, 6:48 PM
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here is something interesting I found on Ebay....


http://www.ebay.com/...;hash=item460d9b17a2


RobertMBlevins

Mar 16, 2013, 6:53 PM
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In reply to:
here is something interesting I found on Ebay....


http://www.ebay.com/...;hash=item460d9b17a2

Yeah. That's from the get-together at the NWA History Center where Rataczak was the main guest. Sounds like a very interesting item. I think I will pick one up. There are probably limited copies available.


Amazon  (D License)

Mar 16, 2013, 7:36 PM
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Something in BK's mind connect the picture of Weber with Cooper and with skydiving.

I think that it's something like this


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