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matthewcline  (D 21585)

Jan 29, 2013, 2:07 PM
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So, being curious by the MACVSOG/Advisor idea. I asked a former MACVSOG Soldier could one be "In Viet Nam" and not be?

His answer; "Yes" and he showed me a set of order showing him in the I Corp, as he showed me a picture in a photo album as part of a wedding party. Two locations, at one time, no leave forms or travel orders, just an assignment posting and a picture.

Today with the tech that may be a bit harder to pull off with out help.

Matt


georger

Jan 29, 2013, 2:51 PM
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Heya... welcome back. If you toss Georger.. I want the video slotWink

Really. LOL! Only with my dead body.

No.1 son says: "That would make one helluva funeral.,
Dad!"

Pirate


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georger

Jan 29, 2013, 2:53 PM
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Real world won.

In skydiving gravity always wins. You just want to be sure gravity doesnt hit a grand slam. Bruce thinks gravity can be made optional, but I dont agree. Wink

If Bruce is right, imagine how it could change skydiving. No planes, no rigs, no DZ. Just hop and drop, anywhere.

377

There is one hard and fast rule of skydiving.... when you leave the door of the airplane in flight... you have to do SOMETHING to save your life. Throwing a pilot chute at the planet at some point in the jump usually is a good start at saving your own life.

I want proof Cooper did that!
Laugh


377  (F 666)

Jan 29, 2013, 3:17 PM
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And I'll bet it wasn't Boeing that paid for the redesign of the rear stairs or for the flight tests to check everything out.

Robert99

I bet you are 100% right Robert and there is precedent for such mods to be paid for by the govt.

Pan Am's passenger 747s were outfitted with heavy duty freighter floors at the request of the US govt who subsidized them heavily. The govt paid for the mods and gave Pan Am a profitable yearly subsidy to compensate for the higher weight and extra fuel burn.
The military wanted reserve airlift capacity in case of an emergency and this was a cheap way to get it.

The unsubstantiated rumors about the 727 being made (or tested to be) jumpable was that civil airliners are routinely given overflight permission above hostile countries such as Cuba, Iran etc. The rumor was that 727s could drop people or payloads covertly while appearing to be regular airline flights.

I still think Ted Braden (MACV SOG soldier and deserter) hasn't been ruled out conclusively. He had the skills and financial motive. He was apparently much more of a sociopath type than Sheridan Peterson. He must have had some dirt on someone to get basically a free pass for desertion during a war. Might it have been enough to get a free pass on Norjack? I doubt it but I can't rule it out.

Orange, Farflung just reminded all us Cooper romantics that a Whuffo could have made the jump. He has several examples of skyjackers who made their first jump from an airliner and landed alive.

I can't attack Farf's facts but I do think Cooper's flight configuration demands to the crew and his alleged easy donning of the NB 8 (or NB 6, still some controversy about this) rig say he was no Whuffo.

I bought a stock military packed NB 8 rig to the Cooper Symposium in Portland. No skydiving mods, just a bailout rig. TSA at SFO: "Sir, why are you carrying a parachute on this flight?" 377: "I'm taking it to a skyjacking convention in Portland."

I picked a non jumper from the audience and asked him to put the NB8 rig on. He spent many minutes and couldnt do it until I showed him how. The NB 6 and 8 have a very confusing chest strap arrangement that even had me stumped the first time I tried to put one on. It clips the apexes of two V webbing straps together to form a chest strap. It is far different from the belt type chest strap arrangement on a B 12 or other miltary bailout rig.

To be balanced, Ralph Himmelsbach told me that there is nothing to substantiate the account that Cooper donned the rig with ease or that Cooper examined the packing card. I thank Jerry Thomas for vouching for me to Ralph, who was friendly and cooperative.

I asked non jumper volunteers to find the packing card on the NB 8 and nobody succeeded. It is quite well hidden. Whuffos dont even know what a packing card is. Had Cooper VERIFIABLY pulled the packing cards it would rule him out as a Whuffo IMO.

377


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Amazon  (D License)

Jan 29, 2013, 3:20 PM
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G wrote
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Real world won.

In skydiving gravity always wins. You just want to be sure gravity doesnt hit a grand slam. Bruce thinks gravity can be made optional, but I dont agree. Wink

If Bruce is right, imagine how it could change skydiving. No planes, no rigs, no DZ. Just hop and drop, anywhere.

377

There is one hard and fast rule of skydiving.... when you leave the door of the airplane in flight... you have to do SOMETHING to save your life. Throwing a pilot chute at the planet at some point in the jump usually is a good start at saving your own life.

I want proof Cooper did that!
Laugh

Don't we all.Wink

7:28 in the videoSlySly


377  (F 666)

Jan 29, 2013, 3:21 PM
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There is one hard and fast rule of skydiving.... when you leave the door of the airplane in flight... you have to do SOMETHING to save your life.

Not necessarily. AADs have delivered jumpers to the ground alive who did nothing after exiting the plane. Maybe the "something" was buying and arming their AAD.

377


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Amazon  (D License)

Jan 29, 2013, 3:26 PM
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There is one hard and fast rule of skydiving.... when you leave the door of the airplane in flight... you have to do SOMETHING to save your life.

No necessarily. AADs have delivered jumpers to the ground alive who did nothing after exiting the plane. Maybe the "something" was buying and arming their AAD. .

377

Yup... but anyone who has had an AAD fire because they did not attempt to do anything had better thank their luck that someone had the presence of mind to turn it on. Loss of altitude awareness used to be a death sentence. Remember these guys???? Then again. if some moron relies on an AAD to do the important stuff in a skydive... they need to take up GOLF.. Crazy


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skyjack71

Jan 29, 2013, 4:26 PM
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Jo insisted to me that 727s were used for air drops in SE Asia. I was sure she was mistaken but started researching and found extensive documentation verifying Jo's claim. Snow dug even deeper.

Jo, how did you know? Was it a guess? Did someone tell you? If so who? What exactly did they tell you if you can recall?

377


I will explain this ONE last time:

Duane and I were watching a program on TV. This program showed the 727 or a forerunner being jump and Duane made a unforgettable comment. His specfic words are lost to me now.

He did talk about JM Wave to me and that they used the 727's or another plane that could be jumped in this way. I now forget exactly what he said. I have had a really bad day - health wise.

At another time earlier in our marriage on a trip to FL. he talked about the 2 planes that JMWave used. He even showed me the building JMWave housed their operation out of. I just thought it was history, but he used the word WE in this discussion. Right now I do not even remember the location, but it was the same trip he made the stop at that night club where he disappeared for a while and knew the owner - asking for him by name. I was NOT introduced to the man.

You will need to find some of my earlier posts about this. The medication has me all messed up right now.


Robert99

Jan 29, 2013, 6:40 PM
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I picked a non jumper from the audience and asked him to put the NB8 rig on. He spent many minutes and couldnt do it until I showed him how. The NB 6 and 8 have a very confusing chest strap arrangement that even had me stumped the first time I tried to put one on. It clips the apexes of two V webbing straps together to form a chest strap. It is far different from the belt type chest strap arrangement on a B 12 or other miltary bailout rig.

To be balanced, Ralph Himmelsbach told me that there is nothing to substantiate the account that Cooper donned the rig with ease or that Cooper examined the packing card. I thank Jerry Thomas for vouching for me to Ralph, who was friendly and cooperative.

I asked non jumper volunteers to find the packing card on the NB 8 and nobody succeeded. It is quite well hidden. Whuffos dont even know what a packing card is. Had Cooper VERIFIABLY pulled the packing cards it would rule him out as a Whuffo IMO.

377

Tosaw's book has the story, straight from Tina, starting on page 32, of how Cooper checked the packing card, checked the ripcord pins on the back, and put the parachute on.

I used to use an NB-6 routinely and I agree that you have to watch what you are doing when putting it on. Just getting the leg straps straightened out required attention.

The chest straps remind me of the later Security 150 and 250 model parachutes which I never liked for that reason. I much prefer the relatively high mounted chest strap type harness.

I imagine that the packing card for your NB-8 was on the container and several inches down from the top and between the container and back pad.

Robert99


Robert99

Jan 29, 2013, 7:04 PM
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Jo insisted to me that 727s were used for air drops in SE Asia. I was sure she was mistaken but started researching and found extensive documentation verifying Jo's claim. Snow dug even deeper.

Jo, how did you know? Was it a guess? Did someone tell you? If so who? What exactly did they tell you if you can recall?

377


I will explain this ONE last time:

Duane and I were watching a program on TV. This program showed the 727 or a forerunner being jump and Duane made a unforgettable comment. His specfic words are lost to me now.

He did talk about JM Wave to me and that they used the 727's or another plane that could be jumped in this way. I now forget exactly what he said. I have had a really bad day - health wise.

At another time earlier in our marriage on a trip to FL. he talked about the 2 planes that JMWave used. He even showed me the building JMWave housed their operation out of. I just thought it was history, but he used the word WE in this discussion. Right now I do not even remember the location, but it was the same trip he made the stop at that night club where he disappeared for a while and knew the owner - asking for him by name. I was NOT introduced to the man.

You will need to find some of my earlier posts about this. The medication has me all messed up right now.

Jo, Check out the information on Wikipedia about JM Wave. It was set up in the early 1960s to support operations related to Cuba. And it got outed in the mid-1960s and was closed about 1968.

It is unlikely, in my humble opinion, that 727s would be overflying Cuba to drop equipment. Other aircraft would be more suitable for doing something like that, if indeed aircraft were necessary at all. For putting personnel ashore, a small boat would easily get the job done. Just keep in mind that Cuba is a relatively small island and not SE Asia.

I believe you have stated that you married Duane in the late 1970s long after JM Wave was closed and had considerable media attention. Maybe Duane just read the newspapers.

Robert99


skyjack71

Jan 29, 2013, 8:03 PM
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Jo, Check out the information on Wikipedia about JM Wave. It was set up in the early 1960s to support operations related to Cuba. And it got outed in the mid-1960s and was closed about 1968.

It is unlikely, in my humble opinion, that 727s would be overflying Cuba to drop equipment. Other aircraft would be more suitable for doing something like that, if indeed aircraft were necessary at all. For putting personnel ashore, a small boat would easily get the job done. Just keep in mind that Cuba is a relatively small island and not SE Asia.

I believe you have stated that you married Duane in the late 1970s long after JM Wave was closed and had considerable media attention. Maybe Duane just read the newspapers.

Robert99

FrownThe Plane:
NOT what I was trying to say.
I related a progam that was on TV sometime while we were living in the old house 1988 to 1995.
There was a program that showed the 727 testing and men jumping out of it (The clip was from the 60's) - exactly what SNOWMMAN has posted and SNOWMMAN found that clip because of what I said. 377 didn't believe me either - but Snowmman produced the PROOF!

FrownJMWAVE:
I WAS NOT indicating that the 727 was used by JMWave - but they did buy a couple of the plane or their forerunner. Our trip to FLA was around 1982 to 1987 when Duane took me to where the JMWave USED to have their office. I WAS NOT indicating JMWAVE was still there. I was repeating things Duane told me from his past!

Since I knew NOTHING about JMWAVE back then all I was doing was reciting a story he told me.

AGAIN: You do NOT know my history and the things I have told and you lump everything together like it is part of ONE thing. I was trying to relate to you his personal connections from the past. Duane was supposedly in prison 1950 to 1958, but we ALL know he showed up in 1957 in ST.PETE.
Something the FBI conveniently forgot when Carr recounted Duane's criminal history.

1960 to 1962 - Duane was in Canon City. 1962 -1966 - is anyone's guess! He was off the radar during those yrs.and this has been verified......

This is WHAT I mean - you deliberately ATTACK everything I say and you DO not READ back for the reference.

I HAVE ASKED U NOT to REPLY to my POSTS and I am asking ONE more time. STOP!

U do NOT have a clue what is happening or what is going on in my life right now! The stress of having to reply to your STUPID elementary assumptions is more than I can tolerate at this time.
Key in the words JMWAVE and go back and READ the DETAILS of this previous discussion in the thread.

PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE! I don't feel well - I will answer simple questions like 377 asked and I usually go off into another memory that is related along the way....does NOT mean the two are related - but one memory triggers the other!


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377  (F 666)

Jan 29, 2013, 8:28 PM
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Robt. 99 wrote
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Tosaw's book has the story, straight from Tina, starting on page 32, of how Cooper checked the packing card, checked the ripcord pins on the back, and put the parachute on.

How I wish Tina could verify Tosaw's story about the packing card and pin check. If true it would be a huge clue. It would not tell us who Cooper is but we could eliminate suspects with no parachute familiarity. Robert is right about the packing card location. Very obscure. You'd have to know chutes to even know to look for a packing card and you'd have to be familiar with NB 6 or 8 rigs to go right to that location on the rig.

377


skyjack71

Jan 29, 2013, 8:40 PM
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There is ONE other explanation?


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skyjack71

Jan 29, 2013, 8:41 PM
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Tosaw's book has the story, straight from Tina, starting on page 32, of how Cooper checked the packing card, checked the ripcord pins on the back, and put the parachute on.

How I wish Tina could verify Tosaw's story about the packing card and pin check. If true it would be a huge clue. It would not tell us who Cooper is but we could eliminate suspects with no parachute familiarity. Robert is right about the packing card location. Very obscure. You'd have to know chutes to even know to look for a packing card and you'd have to be familiar with NB 6 or 8 rigs to go right to that location on the rig.

377

Or he could have been a packer for smoke jumpers!


skyjack71

Jan 29, 2013, 8:46 PM
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FIgure that one out!

Does anyone have a Cooper 20 out there?


RobertMBlevins

Jan 29, 2013, 9:02 PM
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One reason why it's tough for me to swallow the idea of Sheridan is because of how he has referred to being a Cooper suspect on social sites. He made a joke about it on one, and on another he says the FBI investigated him in 2002 and dismissed him. In that last one, he sounds almost exasperated that people somehow think he was Cooper.

If someone pulled off a crime as large as Cooper's, it's doubtful they would joke about it on a social site. McCoy got forty years. If the perp is still alive today, you have to figure that every time there is a knock at the door, this perp wonders whether his past has finally caught up to him somehow...and there are men in suits at the door.

For the REAL Cooper, it would not be the stuff of jokes or any kind of lightheartedness, especially if you were actually contacted by the FBI.

Another problem I have with Peterson is more obvious. The last time Cooper was seen, Mucklow said he was putting on the chute and tying something around his waist. Peterson, an expert skydiver, planned to jump from a jet moving at 175MPH or so in dress-type shoes and a suit? This is extremely unlikely, IMHO. There is also no hint, or any known testimony from the stews saying that Peterson even RESEMBLED Cooper. KC may not be the guy, but Schaffner did say this about him:

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She zeroed in on the passport photo all blown up. She rubbed his features on the page. “The ears, the ears are right.” She moved to the lips. “Yes, thin lips. And the top lip, kind of like this, yes.” Then the forehead. “A wide forehead, yes.” Then the hair. “Receding, yes, the two areas—yes, yes—sort of like this.” She was pushing down on the photo hard now, rubbing the image like a charcoal drawing. “There was more hair, though.” The eyes. “About like that.” The eyebrows. “Yeah, about like that.” The images were closer in resemblance to Cooper than any of the suspects she’s ever seen, she said. But? “But I can’t say ‘Yay.’” We got up from the table. “I think you might be onto something here,” she said.

And this from Himmelsbach. Both quotes are from Gray's NYM article.

“Not bad,” he said. “Except for the hair.”

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I then showed him Kenny’s discharge papers from the Army. He looked at Kenny’s height (five-eight), weight (150 pounds), and eye color (hazel), then pushed the papers back. “Well, he’s too short, not heavy enough, and has got the wrong color eyes.” I then told him about Kenny’s history: his service in the paratroops, and working for Northwest—as a purser, a flight attendant, a mechanic—and living near Sea-Tac, and his quiet mien. The old man lit up like somebody had plugged him into the wall socket. “All of this makes him look like a good suspect to me,” he said. “If I was still on duty and it were up to me, I’d say, ‘This guy is a ‘must investigate.’”

None of this stuff means Kenny was the hijacker. But I have to ask if anyone has said anything like this about Sheridan?


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377  (F 666)

Jan 29, 2013, 9:26 PM
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Story about Paperlegs Peterson, for Jo if she hasn't already seen it.

http://smokejumpers.com/...azine_editions_id=16

377


RobertMBlevins

Jan 29, 2013, 9:44 PM
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Another small 'Cooper Point' I've wondered about: If the hijacker was careful enough to rid himself of everything he took on board, i.e. a bomb that could be traced to him, the briefcase, the bag, etc....

Then WHY did he just toss the tie on a seat and not worry about it being found? There are only two logical explanations, I think. First, he simply forgot about it. Second, he knew somehow it couldn't be traced to him.


377  (F 666)

Jan 29, 2013, 10:02 PM
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Then WHY did he just toss the tie on a seat and not worry about it being found? There are only two logical explanations, I think. First, he simply forgot about it. Second, he knew somehow it couldn't be traced to him.

Back in 71 he wouldn't have been thinking about DNA evidence. If he were really clever he could have left the tie knowing it would point at someone other than him. But what characteristic of the tie would accomplish that goal?

I'm not sure you can assume the real DBC wouldn't joke about being a suspect, especially after he'd been cleared by an FBI DNA test. He might be an ironic double psych kind of guy who would get a kick out of it.

Sheridan Peterson might be that kind of guy.

377


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377  (F 666)

Jan 29, 2013, 10:07 PM
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We've kinda stabilized in a nice groove here. We are talking about evidence. We have ceased personal attacks. Can this last?

I sincerely hope so.

377


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377  (F 666)

Jan 29, 2013, 10:27 PM
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Jo wrote
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Does anyone have a Cooper 20 out there?

Yup. Straight from Brian Ingram. A nice specimen indeed.

I'd pay a lot more for a crisp one. Maybe that guy who bought Duane's van saved a few. Wink

377


Amazon  (D License)

Jan 29, 2013, 10:43 PM
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We've kinda stabilized in a nice groove here. We are talking about evidence. We have ceased personal attacks. Can this last?

I sincerely hope so.

377

+1

Smile


RobertMBlevins

Jan 29, 2013, 10:57 PM
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We've kinda stabilized in a nice groove here. We are talking about evidence. We have ceased personal attacks. Can this last?

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I sincerely hope so.

377

+1

Robert comments: It's occurred to me that since the FBI opened the door by allowing the Citizen Sleuths a crack at the evidence....

That this evidence could be re-examined by a second source. A well-equipped institution of higher learning, for example.

And toss the Amboy chute into the mix for good luck. Smile

My position on the Amboy chute is pretty simple. The FBI could be right about it. But they did slip up on two key points: WHO may have owned it, and not seeing the DOM tag after their initial investigation. Why did they miss it? If their initial work was so sloppy, why should we trust their results now without an independent source verifying those results? Citizen Sleuths wanted to examine the chute but it wasn't presented to them. Why, if that chute is a big nothing in the case?

Okay. Many of you have seen this article at Newsvine. If you have, skip it. It's the one where I call into question their results on the Amboy chute.

Beyond that, I say the right university team should get a second look at the evidence. Maybe the UW Huskies. If nothing else, it's convenient. Perhaps someone should also ask the Seattle FBI if they have taken DNA samples from the letters and stored away the profiles? They did the tie, and supposedly it cost them big bucks to get that partial. If they haven't run the DNA yet from the letters and then run those profiles through the database...about five percent of US citizens, maybe as much as seven, are now DNA recorded. Could get a hit on Cooper, maybe a family member.


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skyjack71

Jan 29, 2013, 11:01 PM
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Back in 71 he wouldn't have been thinking about DNA evidence. If he were really clever he could have left the tie knowing it would point at someone other than him. But what characteristic of the tie would accomplish that goal?
377

Thanks for the article on Paperlegs and Mouse and packers. I guess Duane thought so much of Paperlegs that he tried to be like him. Reading the description of Paperlegs was like hearing the description given of Duane by old friends.

I agree on the tie - except if he left it behind it was a message to anyone who might miss him if he didn't come home or just seemed to disappear. I still think the tie tac Duane had on in 1970 in the picture and the one the found on Cooper's tie are a match...but, perhaps I SEE things.

Interesting that there was actually a jumper named MOUSE.
I always believed that Duane worked in a LOFT folding chutes, because of a picture he showed me in that old book - one we have never been able to find that Duane brought home around 1985. There was a picture in there of a chute prep loft. The one the Camino pic was in.

That riddle that Paperlegs recited - it was so similar to one Duane used to say, but it was not about gambling.

Wonder what happened to MOUSE and if there are any pictures of him and if he is still living. I still treasure that MOUSE I have Duane kept in the drawer with all of the other items.

Billy is the name on the MOUSE, probably just a Mousetter souvenier.


Orange1  (B 2638)

Jan 30, 2013, 3:15 AM
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I'm not sure you can assume the real DBC wouldn't joke about being a suspect, especially after he'd been cleared by an FBI DNA test. He might be an ironic double psych kind of guy who would get a kick out of it.

Sheridan Peterson might be that kind of guy.

377

Agree...or simply may even be doing it precisely assuming most people would also think the way Blevins does on it!


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