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RobertMBlevins

Jan 17, 2013, 11:24 PM
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Skyjack 71: I wouldn't worry too much about lying to the cop. I've not only done interviews with criminals, but a few cops as well.

This one Seattle cop...been on the force for more than fifteen years, right? I ask him 'what's the worst part of the job?' I figure he's going to tell me something like 'When I leave my wife in the morning she never knows if I'll be back that night...' or maybe 'having to draw my gun and shoot someone.'

This was his actual reply to the question:

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"Everyone lies to you, even when they don't have to, even when they're not in trouble or going to jail or anything. You really get tired of that..."

Why do the cops job for them? It wasn't like Duane killed anyone. If they wanted him, they can find him themselves, right? No one likes a snitch. Cool

I figure maybe your actions that day (sort of) fall under the old husband-wife exception about testifying against each other. The heck with it.

That was a bit of satire to cheer you up about what happened.
The quote by the Seattle cop I interviewed is true. Smile


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377  (F 666)

Jan 18, 2013, 1:10 AM
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Blevins,

What does your Seattle cop friend think about this?

http://youtu.be/5mvLw2ksPz0

Or this

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/...eased-in-washington/

Or this

http://youtu.be/SbDknWIfnds

Maybe these guys need to switch to decaf with their donuts.

377


377  (F 666)

Jan 18, 2013, 1:16 AM
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I'd like a Bourbon Miss... [In reply to] Can't Post

I'd like a Bourbon Miss... and pour one for each of the guys up front too.

Quote:
(1990) Three former Northwest Airlines pilots who flew a passenger jet while intoxicated were sentenced to prison today, two for a year and the other for 16 months.
Federal District Judge James Rosenbaum also imposed three years' probation on each, telling them, "Gentlemen, you are good men who have done a bad thing."
The sentences were within Federal guidelines, which recommended 12 to 18 months; the maximum would have been 15 years. Under Federal law, no parole is possible for sentences of a year or less; the 16-month sentence carries a possibility of less than two weeks' parole. Judge Rosenbaum left open the possibility that the three could remain free pending their appeals. Flying With 91 Passengers
The three were convicted of being intoxicated while flying a Boeing 727 with 91 passengers from Fargo, N.D., to Minneapolis the morning of March 8. They are Norman Lyle Prouse, 51 years old, of Conyers, Ga., the captain; Robert Kirchner, 36, of Highland Ranch, Colo., the first officer, and Joseph Balzer, 35, of Antioch, Tenn., the flight engineer.

377


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RobertMBlevins

Jan 18, 2013, 1:16 AM
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Blevins,

What does your Seattle cop friend think about this?

http://youtu.be/5mvLw2ksPz0

Or this

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/...eased-in-washington/

Or this

http://youtu.be/SbDknWIfnds

Maybe these guys need to switch to decaf with their donuts.

377

I interviewed that cop over 30 years ago. Different Seattle, different times. I never got his name, I just got the interview. It was revealing, I thought. Smile


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BruceSmith

Jan 18, 2013, 6:11 PM
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Blevins,

What does your Seattle cop friend think about this?

http://youtu.be/5mvLw2ksPz0

In reply to:


Although the incident seemed to be a tragic miscarraige of justice, some aspects surprised me.

One of the things that sttruck me was the fact that the two bicycle cops were among the first to arrive. Also, so few by-standers gathered. And where was EMS?


b1jercat  (B 26608)

Jan 18, 2013, 6:37 PM
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Re: [skyjack71] The GRAPEVINE at Cooperland! [In reply to] Can't Post

+1 trying to stirr up intrest at grape vine.

blues

jery


skyjack71

Jan 18, 2013, 7:57 PM
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+1 trying to stirr up intrest at grape vine.

blues

jery

I haven't been there. Blevins is bound and determined to get the FBI to declare his KC was Cooper.....just won't happen.

1.
If I could find the acreage of Flat Land with a tower that was there in 1971 and not there in 1979...I would be half way home.

2.
Just know it had to have been not too far from Heisson (the old building with the rickety bathroom and a Post Office).

3.
The tower had a shed on the right next to it per the story Duane told me. He hid something there one time.

4.
Was he referrencing as a kid or as an adult.

5.
He pointed to a low spot in the trees and told me a Logging road used to be there and it went ALL the way to the rails.
Main tracks or logging tracks???

6.
In 1979 the trees in the path of what used to be the logging road were younger than the other trees, but I am not a judge of Tree ages....just human ages.
How long does it take a tree in WA to become 20ft? 30ft? 40ft?

7.
The areas I did find had changed a lot - but we are talking 1979 versus 2001 for the Lake LaCames area (trees on the lake). I went back in 2010 and the point the trees I located in 2001 was overgrown and unaccessible by car.

8.
1971 VERSUS 1979 - 8 YRS
2001 VERSUS 2010 - 9-YRS

9.
Just Solved my own puzzle!


RobertMBlevins

Jan 18, 2013, 10:18 PM
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Skyjack71 says in part:

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'Blevins is bound and determined to get the FBI to declare his KC was Cooper.....just won't happen...'

Between the two of us, you are the only one who has spoken to anyone from the FBI in person, correct? Me? Two phone calls (they did call me back) and no more than four emails over a two and a half year period.

Fact: I sent in a report and some pics/documents. The report says we can't prove Kenny was the hijacker.

Fact: Haven't tried to contact them since I sent it, and I probably never will. If they need anything else from me, they know where I am.

No use being a pest about it. If there's anything valid to the report, they'll find out if they wish to make the effort. If there's nothing to it, they'll probably figure that out as well. I don't lose sleep over it. In fact, I feel relieved that I finally sent them everything we have. My part in it is basically over, unless any new info on KC comes my way, and that's unlikely since I am no longer actively investigating KC. Works for me. I have other projects going. Doing another edit and designing cover for Revenge Story and writing another book, which has nothing to do with Cooper.

On the Seattle Police problem: When the US Justice Department office in Seattle starts squawking about civil rights, abuse, etc within the SPD...you got a problem in the department with citizen relations. I go to Seattle as little as possible these days. Unimpressed Yeah...I watch the Seattle TV news and have seen some of these incidents posted to YouTube.


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377  (F 666)

Jan 19, 2013, 2:47 AM
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to date there is zero evidence of any electronics used in this crime...
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I hereby certify that radio tower signals (unregistered) on a mountain top were used in triangulation for dropzone location in combination with lights from a pump station to zero in on the predetermined jump location chosen by Duane Weber. The flight was pre-flown and practiced to verify trajectories and accuracy. These are facts. You can't prove or disprove them, but you will rant uncontrollably at your inability to discount it as not true. Truth is what truth is, no matter how hard you try to cover it up. Bite me. You are always wrong, it seems. Jo is right.

Bob,

If any of the cockpit crew was in on it, as you claim, no wacky tower based navigation was needed. They had VOR, DME and ADF gear to do navigation with far greater precision.

A complicit pilot could signal jump run and exit with something as simple as power changes or rudder bumps.

377


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skyjack71

Jan 19, 2013, 10:51 AM
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377 - Excellent Answer you made to Knoss:

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If any of the cockpit crew was in on it, as you claim, no wacky tower based navigation was needed. They had VOR, DME and ADF gear to do navigation with far greater precision.

A complicit pilot could signal jump run and exit with something as simple as power changes or rudder bumps.

377

When Knoss makes theUnsurekind of statements he does on this thread - you guys KNOW WHY I discontinued communications with him yrs ago. His fables
damaged everything I told the FBI.... Unsure

He came across so so in the very beginning and he extracted information from me. The things I told to him came back at me completely distorted then I knew something was wrong. Why I baited him with false information and then watched his story unravel. I wish I had at least recorded his conversations prior to the emails.
When I started using emails he became cautious about what he said in print...but, I have enough to nail him....should I choose to do so.

He was ONE of the reasons I bought my first computer. I needed to keep a records of any communications with this man, because phone calls and my notes just were NOT doing it. I was also staying in the office to do my real estate searches alone at night time as my being slow hindered other agents from doing their CMA's & searches. .

Long Story Short - it is obvious were Knoss comes from. He made accusation against one of the crew members - and I flat out told him that was NOT possible.

It is my suspicion Knoss has spent a LOT of time confined in institutions, prisons, mental hospitals, rehab or something like that. The personal things I have learned about Knoss I will not reveal (plus the information was second hand) but, I will assure you the stories I was told grossed me out.

The same information came from MORE than one person.
I thought the first person was exaggerating! I shudder when I think about his man....it literally gives me goose bumps up and down my spine! Sometimes just the thought - gives me that horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach - like when one is sick.

Knoss never knew Weber and he witnessed nothing!

Please excuse me - I will be back after I find my pills for nausea!


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matthewcline  (D 21585)

Jan 19, 2013, 1:46 PM
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Two good posts!

Matt


RobertMBlevins

Jan 19, 2013, 4:27 PM
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Quote from the three-part article via Newsvine:

Quote:
'If you aren't convinced of their viewpoint, they will occasionally take the low road and post the worst things imaginable on any article or forum regarding Cooper. This group includes people like Bob Knoss, who is the most famous of all. Knoss thinks the whole thing was a conspiracy created with the tacit approval of President Richard Nixon - with the goal being to force improvements in airline safety...'

And if you believe any of Knoss' story, then I have some seafront property in Kansas you might be interested in...Smile


georger

Jan 19, 2013, 8:50 PM
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Quote from the three-part article via Newsvine:

Quote:
'If you aren't convinced of their viewpoint, they will occasionally take the low road and post the worst things imaginable on any article or forum regarding Cooper. This group includes people like Bob Knoss, who is the most famous of all. Knoss thinks the whole thing was a conspiracy created with the tacit approval of President Richard Nixon - with the goal being to force improvements in airline safety...'

And if you believe any of Knoss' story, then I have some seafront property in Kansas you might be interested in...Smile

'The stupid things you do, you regret if you have any sense, and if you don't regret them, maybe you're stupid...'

Katherine Hepburn
And if you believe anything Blevins/Kate/
Marilyn/Pres. Bill says, then I have some seafront
property in Kansas you might be interested in
and a room on Fifth Floor VA for ya ...Smile

SlyLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

I see Dropzone still isnt loading right - ohg well - who cares!

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh


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skyjack71

Jan 19, 2013, 9:01 PM
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Two good posts!

Matt

If you are referring to my last 2 posts - Thank You! I am just trying to finish this the best way I know how....straight forward and try not to fall into the trap of false memories.

I asked questions and then try to reason out WHY would I come to that conclusion. What did I remember that would help me to put things in perspective - like the size and age of the trees and comparing the logging site with the lake site....because I actually view it several yrs apart.

Taking the tower site ( where ever that is ) and put what I did know about trees in WA ... then I was able to at least guess as the age of the trees on what used to be a logging site.

Pretty good for an old farm girl who has now been to WA 3 times in her life.

1979 - with Duane Weber
2001 - with documentary crew
2010 - my sentimental trip

Any subject I have mentioned and anything else anyone would like me to attempt this mental exercise with please let me know. ONE subject at a time.


skyjack71

Jan 19, 2013, 9:54 PM
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I located a couple Duane and I knew in 1978. They are both still alive. It took the wife a couple of minutes to remember Duane Weber and Jo. I mentioned Denver, CO and she started with her memories.

I told her Duane had died in 1995, but DID not TELL her about HIS Death Bed confession, because I did NOT want that to be part of the memories for the time being.

Obviously she nor her husband are aware of Duane Weber/Dan Cooper/ John Collins past...and have not read anything about my claim Duane was Cooper. I did NOT tell her about this or discuss it with her. I let her talk about her memories of us.
I spoke about my memories of them as a couple. We talked about a memorable night in 1979
March 27th. Our Wedding nite.

I told her when Duane died and that he died after 5 yrs on the kidney machine. We talked about where we lived and they have a time share very near me.
We are going to get together in the very near future.

The only negative I shared with her was the fact that when Duane died I found out he was a 5 time felon who had spent as many yrs in prison and jails as he was married to me - 17 yrs. She was SHOCKED! She also remembered Duane singing a song to me from the stage (she also could not remember the place, but we are hoping her husband will be able to do so). I have NO pictures of our wedding night - I hope they took some, but have not asked. I still have NOT told them about the confession or anything about Cooper. I do NOT want them to be influenced.

This is what I have tried to impress on the DZ and to others.
The EAST and deep South does NOT keep up on Cooper. It is a small article in the paper and even if one reads it - we do NOT think about it being about SOMEONE we know, unless it is a current relationship or neighbor. Everyone moves on with their lives and we forget the names.

She just could NOT imagine Duane Weber being a criminal and having spent time in prison!
What will she think when I tell her he claimed to be Dan Cooper?

This is what I mean - DUANE fooled everyone or everyone is fooling me...with claims they could never imagine Weber committing a crime. He was liked and remembered by most individuals as a kind generous hard worker with a smile and a grin no one ever forgot.

Now I wonder why he had that grin! It is becoming obvious Weber was a good CON man.
He conned me, his friends, my family, employers, his clients and neighbors
.

Her husband was napping when I first called, as he has been ill. He spoke to me briefly and obviously had been listening to part of my conversation with his wife. He asked me what the song was Duane sang that night and who recorded it....obviously DUANE IMPRESSED them and the audience and of course me with that presentation.

Hopefully her husband will remember - the place we went to and then maybe I can find out who the band was. Duane very very obviously had planned this and he knew them well (he told me he knew a couple of the players)..

I have only found one person in the history of Weber's past who hated his guts and wanted revenge. Even victims (such as the children of his wife from 62 to 72) had only fond memories of Weber.

How can this be the same man who spent 17 yrs of his life confined to prisons and jails and even more running from the law?
How did this man deceive me
and other for so many yrs? Was he that GOOD?


There are a lot of questions to be answered. I have sent them some pictures, but my photo file has been corrupted so could not send as many as I wanted to. I have them all on disks. Other files have been corrupted also???

I still have NOT told them about Cooper...I will feel my way thru this alone....thank you!

Duane conned his employers, his friends and his wife and all of those he met. Duane Weber was a keeper of secrets and was good at hiding himself. Who was this man married? Will I ever know?

I did learn something from MY brief conversation with the husband. The name of the person Duane knew in Spokane!
NOW there is a whole new realm I have to research! I had the name previously, but for some reason did NOT go there.

Don't ever anyone ever say Jo has not done her research on Duane's past. It has taken 17 yrs of my life - soon to be 18 without any help from the DAMN FBI. Things I found and people the FBI should have talked to in 1997- 1998. All the FBI did was approach one friend and a
couple of his employers and one of the ex-wives (never knew if they spoke to the other one in much detail because she hated his guts).....and from what I have
been told her feelings are justified and there are many more I am sure.......

Duane WEBER was at Camino!
Duane Weber was in Spokane and Duane Weber had a past in WA. Can I prove it? It is
NOT and was not my job to prove it or to have researched it. That responsibility belonged to the FBI.


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Amazon  (D License)

Jan 19, 2013, 10:24 PM
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Quote from the three-part article via Newsvine:

Quote:
'If you aren't convinced of their viewpoint, they will occasionally take the low road and post the worst things imaginable on any article or forum regarding Cooper. This group includes people like Bob Knoss, who is the most famous of all. Knoss thinks the whole thing was a conspiracy created with the tacit approval of President Richard Nixon - with the goal being to force improvements in airline safety...'

And if you believe any of Knoss' story, then I have some seafront property in Kansas you might be interested in...Smile

Not that I believe squat that BK utters.... but let me introduce you to the Western Interior Seaway.


RobertMBlevins

Jan 19, 2013, 11:58 PM
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Actually...it IS the job of anyone who forwards a suspect to do the work necessary to either prove it, or provide verifiable evidence. If they can't do it on their own, they should recruit assistance.

Jo: You continue to whine about the FBI. You contact people Duane knew and then don't know the right questions to ask. You have given the FBI virtually NOTHING in all these years to go on. Duane was here, Duane was there. But you haven't been able to demonstrate that Duane knew how to use a parachute or that he was even in Washington at the time of the hijacking. You have zip, nada, nothing for evidence. Nothing that can be examined or verified.

Handwriting in a book, and the witness is gone.

A possible confession that no one can second.

A fat file at the Seattle FBI with a final result: dismissal of the suspect.

It doesn't MATTER whether Duane went here or there in Washington. It's a popular place, and I've been on more Forest Service roads since 1969 than Duane ever imagined existed. Doesn't make me the hijacker.

Knowledge of parachute use, location on 11/24/71, supposed tickets you threw out, whatever. It is thin. After all these years, couldn't you have come up with at least ONE witness who can be named? ONE piece of viable circumstantial evidence? Going down this road will take you exactly nowhere.

Right or wrong, I'm attaching an example of REAL research, verified by more than just yours truly.


(This post was edited by RobertMBlevins on Jan 20, 2013, 12:44 AM)
Attachments: FBIreportpubliconly.pdf (75.9 KB)


skyjack71

Jan 20, 2013, 11:00 AM
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Jo: You have given the FBI virtually NOTHING in all these years to go on. Duane was here, Duane was there.


Forgive me if I am grouchy today as I feel like hell!

I have presented a HELL of a LOT more than you have on Christiansen. A lot more.

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Handwriting in a book, and the witness is gone.

HOW many TIMES does one have to explain to U that between the thread and what I have done - it was determined the handwriting in the book is probably NOT Webers. It was his co-worker that thought the handwriting was Duane's and told the journalist she would know Duane's handwriting anywhere.

I thought this also, but I had a problem with the a's and
thought it might be the difference between writing with pen and pencil.

The thread concluded it was NOT Duane's handwriting and I have so stated this in the past. U are the only one who continuely brings this up. HOW much more did you MISS?


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skyjack71

Jan 20, 2013, 11:08 AM
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A possible confession that no one can second.


Excuse me! What have U offered on Christiansen? Not one IOTA to prove he could even have commited the crime. PLEASE DO NOT DO YOUR RECITAL OF the BOOK and what YOU co-erced from individuals who knew KC. U have ABSOLUTELY NO idea what is currently going on. I guess U do not read the other postings.


skyjack71

Jan 20, 2013, 11:17 AM
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Knowledge of parachute use, location on 11/24/71, supposed tickets you threw out, whatever. It is thin. After all these years, couldn't you have come up with at least ONE witness who can be named? ONE piece of viable circumstantial evidence? Going down this road will take you exactly nowhere.

Well, what if I told you we can put Duane in association with jumper? No I do not have to disprove it - the FBI has to prove it.

Witness? There were none.
Other than the woman who came to the hospital and asked me what he was talking about. He was rambling about putting money in a bucket and couldn't find the bucket. She spoke with the FBI in 1997 when they interviewed her - I have to assume they DID interview her.
They had her name and contact information.

I was unable to obtain information about a safety deposit box under the name of JOHN COLLINS in another state. ONLY the FEDERAL government can do that. CARR did NOT do it! Now those records have probably been destroyed!

U are the only one making a to do about any of this right now?
Have you notice this or do U just ignore what is going on.

Have U not realized I and the thread are moving in a specific directions and that IS NOT to discuss the same trivial things U continue to want to repeat like a broken record.

Go back and read my last posts prior to the one I have felt compelled to answer with the last 3 posts!

CAN U not find something NEW to discuss about Weber or the crime or your suspect? If not perhaps you need to be posting at the "other" site you have boasted about. What Happened?
Did U get Bored?


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RobertMBlevins

Jan 20, 2013, 11:40 AM
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In reply to:
A possible confession that no one can second.


Excuse me! What have U offered on Christiansen? Not one IOTA to prove he could even have commited the crime. PLEASE DO NOT DO YOUR RECITAL OF the BOOK and what YOU co-erced from individuals who knew KC. U have ABSOLUTELY NO idea what is currently going on. I guess U do not read the other postings.

Oh, I think there's PLENTY of evidence he could have committed the crime. There just isn't ENOUGH evidence to say he did.

The elimination or confirmation on KC is done easily enough. The FBI should interview the witnesses, and confront Geestman on his lies. One of two things are bound to happen. First, the FBI will discover there is a perfectly legit explantion on how KC went through more than five times his yearly income within eight months of the hijacking. Or, they will find out Geestman and KC pulled it off, and that Geestman's wife found out later.

Quote from Margaret Geestman's letter to AB of Seattle:

Quote:
'Even if Kenny was aboard the plane that day, he wasn't hijacking the plane. He was just doing his job...'

Right. Crazy

Quote from Margaret Geestman's second interview:

Quote:
'No matter what he may have done, Kenny was still a nice guy...'

I'm sure he was.


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skyjack71

Jan 20, 2013, 12:14 PM
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This is exactly the reply I thought you would make!
His statement below:

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Oh, I think there's PLENTY of evidence he could have committed the crime. There just isn't ENOUGH evidence to say he did.
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If anyone has any questions you may want to ask me - I will answer them, but I refuse to deal with the repeated trivia some wish to repeat over and over - I do not.


Smile
Folks what did I predict he would do? Playing the same old broken scratched record! Scrambling to protect his story with repetitions!

++++++++++++++++++++++

SmileI wish I had a recording of the wedding song Duane sang to me on our wedding night!

Unsure"You'll Never Know if You Don't Know Now". That song had more meaning to it than anyone ever knew. It was his way of starting a NEW life and he did on March 27th, 1978 in Denver, Co.

SmileThe trip to WA 1979 - I call the "Sentimental Journey" which was another song he sang so very well.

UnsureThen his continued success regarding his work and that final recitation he made the yr he went out on disablity. The speech he made that left NOT one dry eye in the room.

SmileHe took NO credit for his success, but gave it all to his guys and to his wife and all who had touched his life....and made it possible for him to be where he was at that point.

WinkNeed a Song for the St.Martin speech saying Good-bye and Thanking everyone.

The people in that room knew he had a battle ahead of him (the kidney machine), but none of them knew the wars he fought to get to that point in his life -
To be recognized and receive the Manager of the Yr Award. I hope I still have the plaque - because I can't remember what it said.

SmileHe WAS so PROUD of himself and yet humble giving the credit to his guys. NOW that I know the real WARS he fought to get there, NO one could be more PROUD of him than I am.

SmileHe had set-backs in the first few yrs and then on the end - but he DID IT. Now I know his story and what he over came in his past - I too am very PROUD of him.

Hiding his past regarding his criminal records was to protect me and to keep me - NOW, I understand WHY he could NOT share his PAST with me.

What Ever Will BE Will BE!
Another song he sang.


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georger

Jan 20, 2013, 12:36 PM
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Sorry, but I don't believe an apology is forthcoming. When people begin to make up stuff in an effort to support one view or another, I have a problem.

Georger quoted Geoff Gray with something Gray did not say, and stubbornly sticks to that story. Then he tried to blame it off on others in a rather lame manner. I gave him the link to verify with Gray. This has nothing to do with any book. This is a matter of integrity. I've had quite enough with his postings saying this or that without proof. Calling him on them seemed perfectly natural. Continuing this might qualify him for inclusion into the Bob Knoss Fan Club.

FrownPick up the phone and call Geoffrey - you do know his number don't you. Instead of stomping around and blaming others - pick up the DAMN phone and all him. Have you EVER spoke to him on the phone or do you depend on others to do that for you?

FrownI didn't take YOUR word for the things you have claimed about others - I picked up the phone. Want ME to MAKE the call for YOU to Gray? Out-line EXACTLY the question you want to ask him in 2 lines. NOT a lot of gibberish!

Priceless!

ShockedShockedShockedLaugh

You would be good at dodge ball, I think. LOL why should I call Geoff Gray? This is a lame suggestion on your part, mostly given because although you might have his cell number, he probably won't take your calls. If he does, I can just imagine the conversation:

"Hey, this is Warner. How you doing?"

"Fine. What's up?"

"Yeah...I just wanted to say I'm sorry for saying that stuff at Dropzone."

"Don't worry about it."

"That Blevins...he just gets on my nerves sometimes."

CoolCoolCool

On a strange and happier note, the Seattle Seahawks were the beneficiaries tonight of a VERY BAD call in the end zone at the end of their Monday Night game with the Green Bay Packers. LOL...it was an interception by the Pack all the way, but the officials ruled it 'simoutaneous possession' and a touchdown for the Hawks. Ha ha. Cool This call was so friggin' bad that it took the refs fifteen minutes to convince Green Bay to send out eleven guys for the now-meaningless extra point. The Pack sort of went on strike for a while, and refused to come out. Can't say I blame them. After the game, Packer coach Mike McCarthy refused to take questions about the officiating. If he had, they would have had to bleep him out all over the place.

These replacement referees are SO bad it's become ridiculous. However, it's nice when they screw up for YOUR team. By tomorrow, the NFL main office is going to be flooded with phone calls and emails. Trust me, this was the most controversial Monday Night Football game on record. They will be showing replays on that last-play-of-the-game for years.

NFL needs to end the lockout on the referees. Watch ESPN tonight and see if the main subject is the Seattle/Green Bay Monday Night game.

This is GUARANTEED.

'Go Hawks'.Wink He he...gotta love those replacement refs.
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Mr Blevins: Gray said exactly as I have reported.

My name here is Georger, you troll.

ABUSE COMPLAINT FILED on the troll!

For the recprd, something is wrong with my
connection to this website - cant get this forum to
load - have no simialr problem anywhere on the
internet - I will consult my isp tomorrow ...

ps: If Gray denies now he said what he said that is
HIS problem not mine. People have advised me
Gray made similar expressions to others. If Gray
denies that, then Gray has a credibility problem too.

I have tried to call Mr Gray as per Blevins insistence.
I have tried every number I have. Gray is either not
taking my calls or is unavailable. Mr Gray can call me at any time, also. Telephones work two ways.
But, I will not try any further.

That is all I can say on the subject because that is
literally all I know. If Blevins claims to have more
recent better info then let Blevins (or Gray) explain
it in detail.

Is Blevins really worth all of this trouble? Is this
forum where Blevins has run people off really worth
all of this problem? Maybe no one here cares.
Maybe people here are entertained by it - a lot of
people are NOT entertained by these machinations
here. It goes to the credibility of Dropzone. And if
this is the level you people want here, then you
definately have it, even without me - not even 377
can deny THAT! This forum has become a literal joke
and disgusting. ...

But, I am literally sitting here waiting for minutes
waiting for this website to load so I can do anything
here ... have no simialr problem anywhere else.
I guess Dropzone is unlucky for me ...

Congrats to troll Blevins. It works in his advantage,
as usual... kind of a stacked deck with both my hands tied behind me!

...lets see if this will now load?

(This post was edited by georger on Jan 20, 2013, 1:13 PM)


skyjack71

Jan 20, 2013, 1:16 PM
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PICK up the Damn Phone.

SmileHey that is my expression!
What has been going on? I guess I missed something!

Let things be. Grey was the one who made your real name known in the book - was he not! Of course that is different than putting it out on internet media souce.

CrazyFrankly I did NOT read the book in its entirety - some chapters I only scanned. What never leaves my mind is JT carries a GUN at all times. Enough to scare anyone, if they are aware of his temper and the things he claims and verbal threats he has made in the
past. I do NOT want to be in the same room or on the same grounds with that man unless he is sedated or in restraints. He is scary!

ShockedYou, now I would really like to meet you - no one can ever really figure you out. I want to see the face behind the persona you project. You I never figured out.

UnsureAs for Blevins - I do not think he even reads some the post. He is in his own world. I was doing and telling things I have not told before - none of it prove Duane was Cooper nor was it intended to do so, but Blevins pops up about things we have discussed and resolved in the past. That is not conductive to any progress with any subject.

Made a lot of progress recently in uncovering some of Duane's background and old friends. Now, the most important one - I have my fingers cross that he is still alive! All I have is a very very common name and afraid to even start pulling the crap up.
THis man was my age and his father and Duane knew each other in WA.


At least I GO forward and do NOT just use the same old stuff all the time. With an ongoing search there are new elements.

Evidently Blevin has all he is ever going to get and I wish I had been able to do some of what I am doing now - yrs ago. Regretfully I am not very computer literate and have to pay for these things. With a very common name is going to be tough! Last name is Harris
First name is just as common.


I know he lived in the Denver area and then went to Spokane where they had family or perhaps it was his wife had family. Had I not found the man and the woman who were our witnessed for the wedding - I would never have known I had criss-crossed one memory with another. Got the names right but was putting the wrong one in WA with family who lived there in the 70's.

SmileCoolLaugh
A Glimmer of HOPE, if not for anything else - but to learn more of Duane's history and how these people viewed him - did they know he was an excon? How well did they know him? Are they SHOCKED to find out he spent so many yrs in prisons - YES they are! Everyone remembered ONE certain thing about him - is GRIN.

That grin I do not believe was ever captured in a photo - evidently I was NOT the only ONE whose attention it got...The friend in Atl. that was his main focus on Duane and now I find older friends mention that as the main part of his character.


(This post was edited by skyjack71 on Jan 20, 2013, 2:11 PM)


RobertMBlevins

Jan 20, 2013, 1:46 PM
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Georger says in part(s): (I will try to answer)

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'Mr Blevins: Gray said exactly as I have reported.

My name here is Georger, you troll.

ABUSE COMPLAINT FILED on the troll!..'

Recent email from Gray says he NEVER called me 'untrustworthy' or claimed I had 'mental problems'. This whole scenario you claimed is ridiculous on its face. I met Gray just ONCE...at his book signing at Third Place Books in Seattle. We signed copies of each other's books. He invited me and several others after his reading to a sports bar next door, where I mostly spoke with Agent Fuhrman and where Gray bought everyone a drink. We've done a few innocuous emails since that time and parted on friendly terms. I apologized to him for Porteous cutting him out of the information loop regarding Christiansen, and gave him a flash drive with everything we had up to that point about KC. Your statements are NOT TRUE, and my opinion is that you are simply angry that I called you out on them.

Quote:
'For the record, something is wrong with my
connection to this website - cant get this forum to
load - have no simialr problem anywhere on the
internet - I will consult my isp tomorrow ...

ps: If Gray denies now he said what he said that is
HIS problem not mine. People have advised me
Gray made similar expressions to others. If Gray
denies that, then Gray has a credibility problem too...'

You want to call Gray a liar? What could possibly motivate him to say those things you claim, when our relationship was so brief and our contacts so few? I asked Gray directly whether he said those things. He says he didn't, and I believe him. You've been on me so hard for so long, that I would not put it past you to make up stuff in anger, which is exactly what I think has occurred.

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'I have tried to call Mr Gray as per Blevins insistence. I have tried every number I have. Gray is either not taking my calls or is unavailable. Mr Gray can call me at any time, also. Telephones work two ways. But, I will not try any further...'

Maybe he's not taking your calls for a reason. I can't believe sometimes that you stick to that story, knowing that Gray occasionally reads this thread. Don't you think he's seen your unending Alice-in-Wonderland, anti-Blevins posts? Don't come to me about 'driving people away' when you do those things. You are part of the problem here, IMHO.

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'That is all I can say on the subject because that is literally all I know. If Blevins claims to have more recent better info then let Blevins (or Gray) explain it in detail...'

Just did. I don't speak for Gray, although I did quote his last email to me. It says this: He never said those things about me that you have claimed for maybe a YEAR now. Detail enough?

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'Is Blevins really worth all of this trouble? Is this forum where Blevins has run people off really worth all of this problem? Maybe no one here cares...'

You care. Or you wouldn't have spent all that time going back for those quotes. Please don't blame me for 'running people off' when you constantly engage in personal attacks, quoting my signatures in weird ways, or make ugly stuff up about me that isn't true. The only thing I ever did to you was to state your real name in the Newsvine article, but that was already well-known because of Gray's book. And yes...I do care about this forum, but I won't put up with your false comments without also putting up a minimum defense.


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