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RobertMBlevins

Jan 9, 2013, 10:41 PM
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Re: [georger] Pre-Blevins Producer Search! [In reply to] Can't Post

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Georger: Is this more of your 'just heresay' stuff? Like when you quoted Geoff Gray supposedly saying those things about me...and then Gray emails me saying he didn't? Which makes one of you a well...I don't have to come out and SAY it, right? Crazy

If you want to ask Porteous something, why don't you ask him yourself? sherlockinvestigationsATGmailDOTCOM

He's read about you in Gray's book. He knows who you are. He would be happy to answer I'm sure. He's pretty good about that.

So your hearsay stuff is better/more reliable than
my hearsay stuff?

Porteous is on record as having contacted a LA
producer in early 2008. You didnt even exist then.

Are you calling Porteous a "liar"?

Seen anything in the trades lately about a film being done on Christiansen? Only one I ever saw was the possible being considered on the Gray book.

You seem to have a fixation on this 'Christiansen Movie' thing. If you have any questions for Porteous, ask him. No need to be shy. He will answer, I'm sure. He's always been pretty good at answering his emails.

As far as actually doing a film on KC, I wouldn't count on it. Nothing to fill in the final scene yet. And if I 'didn't exist' before 2008, then why are you coming to me about this? Porteous. Email. sherlockinvestigationsATGmailDotCom.


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skyjack71

Jan 9, 2013, 11:48 PM
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I just went back to view what I posted but the pictures would NOT down load for me on my end.

Where any of you able to view those photos. Seems I have some kind of corruption in my photo system. I have never seen those emblems before that came up on the photos.

Let me know if any one was able to down load them and view them.

The last photo I will post is of Duane and Myself, but don't want to go thru the process if no one can view them.

I guess I need a new computer and I think maybe I have been infected with some kind of virus.
When I got up the other day - my computer had turned on ALL by itself and then strange things happened.

So very very tired - I wanted those pics to post. Can anyone help?


skyjack71

Jan 10, 2013, 12:32 AM
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It has taken a lot of courage for me to post this pic. But since I NO longer look like that I figured what harm would it do? At least you guys will know I really do exist.

I am especially interested in response from the pic with the ORANGE sweater/vest thing Weber had on. I know the photo was after 1969 and before 1972.
That is all I know about that pic.

His wife was with him in the pic and I cropped her out. I was told the pic was made in N.C. or S.C. - really do NOT remember.

The ex-wife sent the pic with the oranges sweater YRS ago.

Note my hair is curly and in the pic I am attaching I was starting to gray and use product on my hair. The product made my hair more managable and relaxed the curls. The area the pic was made in was DRY and not humid like it is in FL. Now you know what Duane and I looked like as a couple.

Duane CLEANED UP mighty nice don't you think? What pics I have seen from his past - baggy pants and dressed what I considered rather poorly....I never knew the man in the old pictures.

Whatever he was prior to my meeting him - well, it is what it is.
He had some mannerism I criticized him about....but, it only took my saying I felt his actions or verbage was inappropriate.

He was on his BEST behaviour when we met, but as a relationship formed, a few of what should have been "hints" to me of his past would surface. I would correct him and he would then make sure he did not use that word or make that action.

His family was a very appropriate family from what I know and had tenure in the areas. His bad habits had been picked-up in prison.

He finally became what he had always wanted to be. He made his sister proud and even his brother in retrospect.

I remember the sister's reactions the first and only time she met me in 2004 when she was in the hospital. Her face lit up - when she realized I was not the woman she had met before.

I am glad I asked John if she wanted to meet me under the circumstances - she thought I was that other woman. Her letters after recovering from her heart attack reflected all of this.

Very thankful I got to meet his brother, sister-in-law and sister.
I knew he had come from good solid stock. It took a lot of yrs for him to grow-up. Now that I know his background - I am more appreciative of what he did with his life.

He became the man he was meant to be and he tried to make up for his past and his mistakes. He would give you the shirt off his back and he was polite and considerate. He was loved by all who knew him.

We were not rich, but we were never poor and he worked hard to make an honest living. No one will ever forget his smile and how he was so willing to help others. He was generous when we really could not afford to do so, but it made him feel good.

Outside of one ex-wife, those he left behind in his past - no one had a bad word to say about him. He just never let them learn about his past....he later became all he could be.

Can you even imagine living in a world - one in which you had to guard everything you did or say or you could end up not having a job or in prison. YES, he lived a life hiding his past - and I wish I had known this before he died. I knew he had a past - I just did NOT press for the details - only what he offered.

His mother and his father would have been very proud of what he became....I did not know the man who had resided in multiple prisons and who had done things out of desparation and complete disregard for the lives of others.

BUT, Duane Weber was who he said he was. He knew such a story would NOT impress me and he had NO reason to try to leave me with bad memories. I wish he had never made that confession and better yet, I wish I had never have found out who Dan Cooper was.

Love Ya All - but, Blevins I have no respect for. His methods are a little low by my standards.


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RobertMBlevins

Jan 10, 2013, 1:04 AM
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Skyjack 71 says in part:

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'BUT, Duane Weber was who he said he was. He knew such a story would NOT impress me and he had NO reason to try to leave me with bad memories. I wish he had never made that confession and better yet, I wish I had never have found out who Dan Cooper was.

Love Ya All - but, Blevins I have no respect for. His methods are a little low by my standards...'

Okay. Since I see I have a three-day weekend coming, I'm planning another camping trip. Mostly to listen to Seahawks and have fun. Been busy prepping.

I tried to improve on your picture in the meantime. Some resolution improvement. Removed the white dots and scratches I could find, mostly.
I have to admit you guys look cute in that picture.


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mrshutter45

Jan 10, 2013, 7:52 AM
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A friend posted his last jump with Kurt Ruppert Jr.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_U1CRjc6JQ


Robert99

Jan 10, 2013, 8:01 AM
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Note how the glasses and angle change the appearance of the nose. The witnesses saw Duane sitting - NOT standing. They saw the demeanor in his face and this that appearance.

One you have seen!

Jo, Contrary to your statement, a number of witnesses saw Cooper standing for a lengthy period of time.

Robert99


WHO and AT WHAT period of time. The ticket agent and the waiting area to the plane do NOT count because NO one KNEW what was going to happen.

Supposedly Weber went to the bathroom and the witness who purportly saw him coming out and what he was carrying and the way the was carrying it was Alice.

This was only per a writer and I have NOT see any OFFICIAL FBI documents in regard to this. It was not stated if he was standing or sitting when he handed the NOTE to Florence.

Quote any official DOCUMENTS you have regarding this.

Jo, You are getting more silly with ever passing day! I thought you said you had stopped "smoking".

Where can the OFFICIAL document stating that Duane ever mentioned Cooper to you be found? Using your logic, it wouldn't count anyway since you admittedly didn't know what he was talking about. And this was only from one "writer" [you].

Can you quote an OFFICIAL FBI document that the airliner was even hijacked in the first place?

Robert99


Farflung

Jan 10, 2013, 11:27 AM
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Finding Something [In reply to] Can't Post

Here’s a case study (I know, I know, the “Star Chamber” hates them) about a body which was found with what I would characterize as extremely narrow search attributes:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...ntain_n_2218676.html

Yep, three years to find what was a six foot four inch, 220 pound man, within half a mile of his camp, in the desert. My goodness. Keep in mind that this was someone who got lost walking and not flying or skydiving.

Way, way, wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much is made about hunters and hikers regarding this stuff. Way too much. Hunters and hikers walk where people walk. Doesn’t seem nearly as profound when presented in the written word, but it is true. Aircraft and skydiver crash sites can be anyplace which is subject to the effects of gravity.

So where precisely was Mr. Capen? He was apparently wedged at the bottom of a crevice, of a piece of rock, which was cleaving away from a cliff or butte. This is similar to hundreds if not thousands of formations common to the area. That is someplace which I would be willing to bet that no hunter or hiker, and I’m even going to add - human has ever explored. I’m pretty sure the bodies which end up on trails, sidewalks and moderately flat terrain are recovered relatively quickly. But someone searching, specifically for this man, noticed his sneaker from some distance and managed to close this ‘mystery’.

Ever been on a real life (not Walter Mitty) search for something that wasn’t keys, a remote control for the TV, or golf ball with a bad lie? I didn’t think so. But the attached article should allow a bit of perspective where it takes dozens of people, almost three years, to find a missing giant, within a nine football field radius, of his Jeep and tent. And they knew he was on foot.

Don’t worry about trying to narrow the search field, because this story had a conspiracy also. Apparently there was some ‘witness’ (code for massive douche bag), who had information that Capen was searching the area with an unidentified person, and may have been a victim of foul play! These people never fail to show up, no matter what.

Here’s one from some territory the average ‘Desk Jockey’ could appreciate. Another missing person, who vanished along with his car:

http://projectjason.org/...ndex.php?topic=787.0

This is an accounting of how he went missing, search parties were formed, that website created, reward offered and how his body and car were found a week later. That’s right, within 30 feet of an Interstate shoulder and against a sound wall separating the ever vigil suburbs. I’ve attached some imagery of the thicket/wilderness which concealed his car and body from searchers, police and several tens of thousands of drivers who must have passed that location during the week.

Hard to believe? I guess having to consider how far our collective heads are up a singular ass isn’t very flattering no matter how accurate. So what are the odds of finding the wing-suit jumper? Cooper? Anyone want to add some ambiguity to the equation with conspiracies, deception or unbridled manipulation? The deck is stacked in your favor if you want to blur the picture as it is already extremely difficult with lots of good information and resources (Steve Fossett) or a painfully narrow search area like these two examples.
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skyjack71

Jan 10, 2013, 12:34 PM
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Jo Stated:

Note how the glasses and angle change the appearance of the nose. The witnesses saw Duane sitting - NOT standing. They saw the demeanor in his face and this
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Robert 99 Stated:

Jo, Contrary to your statement, a number of witnesses saw Cooper standing for a lengthy period of time.

Robert99------------------------------



Jo Enquired with THIS QUESTION:

WHO and AT WHAT period of time. The ticket agent and the waiting area to the plane do NOT count because NO one KNEW what was going to happen.

Supposedly Weber went to the bathroom and the witness who purportly saw him coming out and what he was carrying and the way the was carrying it was Alice.

This was only per a writer and I have NOT see any OFFICIAL FBI documents in regard to this. It was not stated if he was standing or sitting when he handed the NOTE to Florence.

Quote any official DOCUMENTS you have regarding this.


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"Jo's question was very logical and asking for more facts IF Robert99 has those facts".

Robert 99 chose too claim she was getting more silly with ever passing day!

"Jo was ASKING WHERE in the OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS per the FBI interviews - WHERE DOES IT STATE that Cooper was STANDING. WHO saw HIM STANDING. Yet, Robert99 RIDICULED her for asking an honest and direct question!"

ROBERT99 went on to ask JO where the official document is stating Duane ever told her he was Cooper or that the Skyjacking ever happened.



UnimpressedFrownMad

The above is typical of the mentality of some of those who claim to be astute and have access to FBI file. These individuals have NOTHING other than a desire to see that the crime is NEVER resolved or for their own twisted reason. State a good reason WHY Robert99 would answer her question with the very tactics used by the authorities to conceal the evidence of the incident in Nov of 1971.

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Answer:

"He either is a phoney or he is working with others to make sure Jo's Story is never heard by the general public and you need to ask yourselves - WHY?

Why answer her honest Question with Accusations intended to demean her?"



UnsureUnsureUnsureUnimpressedRight - is was a simple question I asked and all it required was a simple and forthright answer. I did NOT need to be BASHED. Have YOU been reading my postings AT ALL. Do you not realize that I am putting this down in the very near future. I have NOT the health to continue to reply to "silly and obtuse" answers to an honest question.

If I didn't NEED to know I would not have asked the question.UnimpressedUnimpressedUnsure

Jerks like you Robert99 make me cry and I don't need that - NOT right now! I asked a very very sincere question yet you answered like a jerk and not a scholar or a gentleman who would like to find the answers to the case. There is NO need to attack anyone for asking a question. Especially when the person being asked the question seems in the past to know all of the answers, yet he chose to ridicule me with his answer. HOW CRUEL! HOW VERY VERY CRUEL!










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mrshutter45

Jan 10, 2013, 12:44 PM
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Jo, nobody is stopping anyone from the "General Public" I'm sure you could
call any news station and speak your story....

even though this is considered a public form only a small percentage actually
know this thread is here....


skyjack71

Jan 10, 2013, 1:03 PM
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Jo, nobody is stopping anyone from the "General Public" I'm sure you could
call any news station and speak your story....

even though this is considered a public form only a small percentage actually
know this thread is here....

Absurd what you just said. I am not interested in taking my story anywhere and I know there are ways to do so - I choose NOT to do so....been there done that.

What I was trying to say:

The way Robert99 treated MY Question would deter ANYONE from approaching the FBI about a suspect!

His ANSWER is typical of FBI tactics! At least the FBI I have had the displeasure to speak with on the phone. The only one who acted like he cared was the 1st Agent who came to my home to see what I had called the FBI about. They are polite, but condescending and usually you get a mouthpiece who KNOWS LITTLE about the case or the subject the caller has presented.



mrshutter45

Jan 10, 2013, 1:15 PM
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how is it "absurd" Jo?

"working with others to make sure Jo's Story is never heard by the general public"

exactly why I said it would be simple to make your story public. (again)

you keep saying you want to keep on the track with Cooper on here, but the second
someone disagree's with you, you start name calling and thenthe paranoia pops up?


skyjack71

Jan 10, 2013, 1:19 PM
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WHERE in the FBI FILES does it state anything about Cooper seen standing or walking AFTER he boarded the plane. NO one would have paid much attention to someone moving about the boarding area - just another passenger. The ticket agent had not reason to remember him.

The Crew would have been alert to any movements made by Cooper after the passing of the note. What does the REPORT state about this? Did Cooper ACTUALLY go to the bathroom and did HE actually walk out the way Alice is said to have told Gray. I had NEVER heard this story until Gray mentioned it to me. I do not know if he included this in his book.

I have NEVER read the detailed minutes taken by the FBI when they interviewed the Witnesses.

Surely such MINUTES exist.


Take NOTE FBI:

IF NOT - WHY HAVE THESE NOT BEEN RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC AS THOSE MINUTES MAY HOLD THE VERY DETAIL THAT COULD HAVE HELPED A RELATIVE OR FRIEND ID COOPER?

The secrecy of the files after all of these yrs is absurd! If those minutes have NOT been released - WHY? To withhold information after 10 yrs that might help ID Cooper - well, there had to be more to it than what the FBI has ever admitted!

The FBI withholding critical information after 10 yrs!
The cost of this investigation could have been avoided. The public can only help if they are provided correct information.


Farflung

Jan 10, 2013, 1:34 PM
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I’ve read so much authoritative rhetoric about why people participate on this thread, and more vexing, why they don’t, that I did some cocktail napkin research. I know!

So there are 77 pages, with 25 threads on each page, in the old Trivia & Whatever section, and by page 27 you are deep into Zombie territory. I mean dead, brainless, soul-less, stupid, stumbling, uncoordinated, pants peeing, Zombie threads, over three years dead. ZOMBIE…... thr-rrrr—eeeeaaaaddzzzzzzz.

These threads are so unvisited, they make Chernobly look like Disney World on a June weekend. I guess I’m just trying to say that there is a whole lot of nothing going on with this subcategory, on this forum.

There are less than 20 responses, on average, to all of the threads on page 27. And knowing that there is boundless knowledge as to what caused people to leave or avoid the Cooper thread, I figured the same people and some others would opine about these threads and the Zombieism they seem to suffer from.

Could it be the subject? Were all the ‘Funny Stories’ told and there are no more? How about ‘vintage gear’? Only five replies to cover that topic? Could the ‘Older Texas DZ’s’ topic have started repeating or become saturated with a mere 23 responses? Texas is a big ass state and there should be plenty to discuss regarding such a fabled subject. But I notice it is nothing more than a bunch of incoherent, Twitter-esque, ramblings. Gosh Wally, what is going on? LOL BRB HMFIC

More than one person has taken more than one turn, at grasping this thread by the hips, and pumping it with their ‘wisdom’ on this subject. So why not explain the utter lack of participation on more than 66% of these threads for more than three years? Why don’t people chatter away on those subjects? Isn’t there a need for self proclaimed expertise on Godfrog, Iron Crank or Slammer Openings? I mean two thirds Zombie threads and people bitch about the level of participation on this thread? That seems kinda stupid.

So what caused the magnificent exodus of over one thousand two hundred threads in the Trivia section? I know with all the precise analysis done here, there should be some amazing and amusing answers about all these damn Zombies. Cuz they aren’t just going to answer themselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xyhVO-SWfM

Although once I realized how very few of these threads were active, I did realize what utter Zombies it must have taken to complain about this thread and how it ruins their day. Suburban Zombies always make me laugh. Threadddzzzzzz I need to bitch about your threaddzzzzzzzz, uh… umm.. I mean brainzzzz.
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mrshutter45

Jan 10, 2013, 1:34 PM
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so, after Cooper released the passengers, he sat the entire time until he left the plane?

what about the description Flo or Tina gave about having to look up at him?

Tina pulled the curtains back seeing him strapping something around him? was he sitting again?

Tina was scared about being sucked out of the plane, was Cooper sitting again while trying to
open the stairs?


mrshutter45

Jan 10, 2013, 2:05 PM
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"The ticket agent had not reason to remember him. " (Jo's quote)

Is that right?

"No I didn't suspect anything bad while observing him, he looked like
a sharp dressed businessman to me, but I noticed him quite a bit
because his behavior was different from the others, and he was all in
black during the day of polyester and plaid"

" the composite drawings never did look just like him. the chin was
a bit thin and the hair was not quite right"

Flo said the samething about the composites!

didn't Jo have a hotel clerk claiming he remembered Duane? can we
use this as evidence if the ticket guy is no good?

http://www.dropzone.com/...nt;postatt_id=128759


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skyjack71

Jan 10, 2013, 2:23 PM
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so, after Cooper released the passengers, he sat the entire time until he left the plane?

what about the description Flo or Tina gave about having to look up at him?

Tina pulled the curtains back seeing him strapping something around him? was he sitting again?

Tina was scared about being sucked out of the plane, was Cooper sitting again while trying to open the stairs?


These are questions I want answers to. We know he got up to put the chute on. We know he got up when the money came on board. We know he got Giddy.

We have never been told if Cooper gave the note to Flo standing or sitting.

We know he was up moving around AFTER the passengers were released.

I want to know the minutes from the time Flo got the note until the time Tina went to the cabin to stay. This is something that HAS NOT been discussed because it is not in the report on the FBI site. When was he standing and when was he sitting while the passengers were on board? How much of Cooper's movements did the passengers and crew actually see AFTER the note was handed to Flo?

If the answers are there in the FBI files made public - please see that they are posted. Anyone - Any BODY - why has this NEVER been discussed? Because the FBI doesn't think this information is important or have they just NOT released it?


(This post was edited by skyjack71 on Jan 10, 2013, 2:48 PM)


skyjack71

Jan 10, 2013, 2:42 PM
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In reply to:
"The ticket agent had not reason to remember him. " (Jo's quote)

Is that right?


SmileHe has given 2 different description and maybe more of the yrs. The suit is black and then it is dark brown...!!!!!!
So does this prove my point?
Read all of the book and articles and see how many times his story changed - or was it the writer? Or did he actual forget things over time?

If the things this man remembers are accurate - why did they NOT redo the composites - there are 2 official FBI composites - Bing and Ben.

Using the Night Clerk is out -it took yrs for them to even go interview him, but he contacted me in 2001 after seeing Weber's picture in an Article done by Margi Boule....yet, it took the FBI yrs and yrs to interview him. I think we discussed this in the thread. THE FBI did NOT INTERVIEW THE CLERK UNTIL I KEPT MAKING IT PUBLIC IN THIS THREAD.

Exactly how well does this speak for the Agents who ignored the clerk for yrs and yrs and yrs. A witness who came forward in 2001 and not interviewed until 2008 (I think - I do not keep up with the dates anymore). The agents interview is discussed in this thread. He was interviewed in 1971 but when Duane's picture was placed in a Washington News Paper in 2001 - he was immediately intouch with Margie Boule and with me. THE FBI was NOT interested. ONLY this thread SHAMED the FBI into contacting him....while he was on medication for a serious surgery he had come back to the states to have.

The FBI was informed of when he was in the states and how he could be contacted - YET, until this was disclosed here at DZ, the FBI made NO ATTEMPT to contact him.


skyjack71

Jan 10, 2013, 3:04 PM
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I’ve read so much authoritative rhetoric about why people participate on this thread, and more vexing, why they don’t, that I did some cocktail napkin research. So what caused the magnificent exodus of over one thousand two hundred threads in the Trivia section?


Do not know how much was on DZ prior to the 2 threads. I viewed some of them over the yrs, but they had already closed when I first came here...hence why I would pop in on any thread that mentioned Cooper. Frankly I never went to the DEAD Zone - to check out ALL of the Dead Threadzzzz!

If certain individuals (not you) would stop MOCKING me or twisting things I would have NO reason to post. I hate to see the Cooper case and all that has been acquired and set straight by so many real researchers through out the yrs here at DZ be destroyed by guys who just want to stir the pot.

THE Pot Stirring by those who have NEVER done the research and have not been involved for yrs ends up creating myths that just are NOT true. I have seen innocent statements made that months and yrs later are twisted into something that no longer resembles what was proven by more than one person....and a lot of it was Documented, by Sluggo and others.

So many (like myself) let their personal objectives or beliefs stand in their way. BUT, more facts have been made available on this thread than any other site ever available to the public.

I am NOT talking Weber, but FACTS about the CRIME itself!



mrshutter45

Jan 10, 2013, 3:09 PM
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"He has given 2 different description and maybe more of the yrs. The suit is black and then it is dark brown...!!!!!!
So does this prove my point? "

not exactly because Cooper's description is all over the board, Black hair, brown hair parted on the side, Duane's hair doesn't match any of the descriptions IMO.

Flo's composite is not close to the FBI's, do we dismiss this as well? she seen him up close, I just feel that one of them would have fingered Duane by seeing his photo just like the hotel clerk did?

It's hard to exclude an eyewitness, if there is a crime next door to your house, the cops will ask if you seen anything, the smallest thing could be a deal breaker.

Lawyer's, cops, State Attorney's all will say eyewitness accounts are sketchy to say the least. but I notice every person pushing a suspect puts the sights right on the composite for proof? it could be a high percentage off on what he really looks like!!


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Robert99

Jan 10, 2013, 3:20 PM
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From Jo's reply to Farflung:

In reply to:
If certain individuals (not you) would stop MOCKING me or twisting things I would have NO reason to post. I hate to see the Cooper case and all that has been acquired and set straight by so many real researchers through out the yrs here at DZ be destroyed by guys who just want to stir the pot.

THE Pot Stirring by those who have NEVER done the research and have not been involved for yrs ends up creating myths that just are NOT true. I have seen innocent statements made that months and yrs later are twisted into something that no longer resembles what was proven by more than one person....and a lot of it was Documented, by Sluggo and others.

Jo, I have recently spent time on the Cooper thread (the one that is now locked) that you started here on DZ and it and your posts look about the same as this thread and your posts here.

Simply pointing out the inconsistencies and inaccuracies in your posts does not constitute mocking.

And not joining your crusade against the FBI and everyone who does not agree with you (which seems to be just about everyone on both Cooper threads) does not make me an FBI agent.

Robert99


smokin99

Jan 10, 2013, 5:03 PM
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Re: [Farflung] Zombie Thread Apocalypse [In reply to] Can't Post

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I’ve read so much authoritative rhetoric about why people participate on this thread, and more vexing, why they don’t, that I did some cocktail napkin research. I know!

So there are 77 pages, with 25 threads on each page, in the old Trivia & Whatever section, and by page 27 you are deep into Zombie territory. I mean dead, brainless, soul-less, stupid, stumbling, uncoordinated, pants peeing, Zombie threads, over three years dead. ZOMBIE…... thr-rrrr—eeeeaaaaddzzzzzzz.

These threads are so unvisited, they make Chernobly look like Disney World on a June weekend. I guess I’m just trying to say that there is a whole lot of nothing going on with this subcategory, on this forum.

There are less than 20 responses, on average, to all of the threads on page 27. And knowing that there is boundless knowledge as to what caused people to leave or avoid the Cooper thread, I figured the same people and some others would opine about these threads and the Zombieism they seem to suffer from.

Could it be the subject? Were all the ‘Funny Stories’ told and there are no more? How about ‘vintage gear’? Only five replies to cover that topic? Could the ‘Older Texas DZ’s’ topic have started repeating or become saturated with a mere 23 responses? Texas is a big ass state and there should be plenty to discuss regarding such a fabled subject. But I notice it is nothing more than a bunch of incoherent, Twitter-esque, ramblings. Gosh Wally, what is going on? LOL BRB HMFIC

More than one person has taken more than one turn, at grasping this thread by the hips, and pumping it with their ‘wisdom’ on this subject. So why not explain the utter lack of participation on more than 66% of these threads for more than three years? Why don’t people chatter away on those subjects? Isn’t there a need for self proclaimed expertise on Godfrog, Iron Crank or Slammer Openings? I mean two thirds Zombie threads and people bitch about the level of participation on this thread? That seems kinda stupid.

So what caused the magnificent exodus of over one thousand two hundred threads in the Trivia section? I know with all the precise analysis done here, there should be some amazing and amusing answers about all these damn Zombies. Cuz they aren’t just going to answer themselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xyhVO-SWfM

Although once I realized how very few of these threads were active, I did realize what utter Zombies it must have taken to complain about this thread and how it ruins their day. Suburban Zombies always make me laugh. Threadddzzzzzz I need to bitch about your threaddzzzzzzzz, uh… umm.. I mean brainzzzz.

One of your best. This one goes in the classic file. Meow.Cool


377  (F 666)

Jan 10, 2013, 5:21 PM
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Re: [smokin99] Zombie Thread Apocalypse [In reply to] Can't Post

Farf wrote:
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Although once I realized how very few of these threads were active, I did realize what utter Zombies it must have taken to complain about this thread and how it ruins their day. Suburban Zombies always make me laugh. Threadddzzzzzz I need to bitch about your threaddzzzzzzzz, uh… umm.. I mean brainzzzz.

Jumpers like to bitch about things non jumpers do (such as paying child support and staying sober). Jumpers really go nuts when non jumpers opine about anything related to jumping. Most of the people here aren't jumpers, and we are opining daily about jump related stuff, so ths forum is a target for negative comments and complaints. Just get used to it and thank Q for not acceeding to those who want to quash this forum.

I cant take any complaints about forum posting volume seriously. It's so easily ignored, bandwidth isnt an issue for text posts and frequent forum posting doesn't overheat or lock up any high quality server chips (because Snow designed them).

377


(This post was edited by 377 on Jan 10, 2013, 5:23 PM)


BruceSmith

Jan 10, 2013, 7:14 PM
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Clyde Lewis' show on DB Cooper [In reply to] Can't Post

Clyde Lewis, the host of the Ground Zero talk radio show, has produced a superbly crafted video drawing from one of his recent DB Cooper forums. It includes snippets from Ariel and Cooper Daze, along with follow-up discussions with Galen, myself and journalist Dave Paul. Robert Blevins is also featured. Topics include Gossett and Christiansen as suspects, what has happened to Tina, and the significance of Letter #3. It runs about 15 minutes.

I can't get the clicky to work despite numerous attempts to correct it. I suggest you cut and paste the URL into Google.

http://www.groundzeromedia.org/videos/ground-zero-behind-the-scenes/ground-zero-disclosure-d-b-cooper-investigation/


(This post was edited by BruceSmith on Jan 10, 2013, 7:24 PM)


mrshutter45

Jan 10, 2013, 7:25 PM
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Re: [BruceSmith] Clyde Lewis' show on DB Cooper [In reply to] Can't Post

here is the link

http://www.groundzeromedia.org/...cooper-investigation


BruceSmith

Jan 10, 2013, 7:42 PM
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Thanks, Dave. I figured someone would come along and fix things.


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