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georger

Jan 11, 2013, 2:11 PM
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Google...knows all, sees all.
Really?

Crazy


matthewcline  (D 21585)

Jan 11, 2013, 2:19 PM
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Farf wrote:
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Although once I realized how very few of these threads were active, I did realize what utter Zombies it must have taken to complain about this thread and how it ruins their day. Suburban Zombies always make me laugh. Threadddzzzzzz I need to bitch about your threaddzzzzzzzz, uh… umm.. I mean brainzzzz.

Jumpers like to bitch about things non jumpers do (such as paying child support and staying sober). Jumpers really go nuts when non jumpers opine about anything related to jumping. Most of the people here aren't jumpers, and we are opining daily about jump related stuff, so ths forum is a target for negative comments and complaints. Just get used to it and thank Q for not acceeding to those who want to quash this forum.

I cant take any complaints about forum posting volume seriously. It's so easily ignored, bandwidth isnt an issue for text posts and frequent forum posting doesn't overheat or lock up any high quality server chips (because Snow designed them).

377

I would love to kidnap every non jumper who posts to this thread and put them in a nice big safe rig with a huge parachute.... for a frakin reality check....

BUT... there are not enough adult depends in Washington State for what should have been a fun event like that.SlySlySly

I'll AJ for you on this!
Cool
Matt


377  (F 666)

Jan 11, 2013, 2:19 PM
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Volplane is correct Robert. The early days of square and other non round parachutes was wild. The best looking one IMO was the Barish Sail Wing. See photo below.

http://www.search-results.com/...ale%3Den_US&qt=0

377


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georger

Jan 11, 2013, 2:24 PM
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I decided to forget about the camping trip this weekend. Tooooo cold, even for me. Plus the clutch slave cylinder on my Nissan truck is leaking and I have to keep filling the main clutch cylinder with brake fluid. Might as well just stay home and fix it. Rebuild kit for the slave cylinder ordered. Arrives tomorrow.
Daily-hourly reports of your 'functions' ...

Interests who?


Farflung

Jan 11, 2013, 2:27 PM
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377 asks:

How you can equate my post to condoning greedy two faced behavior kinda puzzles me. But lots of things about human behavior puzzle me.”


I thought I was very transparent with the juxtaposition of whuffos showing gratitude for being allowed to use one out of a quarter million threads, as an act of supreme generosity. Was I really that vague? How does anyone even get bothered by something that is 1/250,000th of anything? Remember the initial question?

As far as your viewpoint:

I suppose that having whuffos comment on skydiving would be quite infuriating to a seasoned or junior (1?) jumper. The outrage makes sense and I can totally understand that position and can support your platform on this subject.

So…. ummm…. just for the sake of ‘argument’, let’s say, in some rare event, not that it has ever happened mind you, that a skydiver BSed on a subject, that whuffos did for a primary living. Like I say here, I’m going way, way, out on a limb, on the tree of ridiculous improbability. Would there be an equal sense of outrage, angst and pants pissing going on?

Hmmm…. so deep, so philosophical, and indeed……. unfathomably unanswerable.

Thank goodness duplicity and hypocrisy are only gaseous concepts and imponderable theories. Imagine living in a world where that stuff actually existed.

Just like the lack of proportionality of a CEO that possesses enough genuine megalomania to actually believe they can perform at a rate of 100,000 X another person, so was the comparison of unbridled despair a single thread could cause in a fabric of 250,000. That was all.
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georger

Jan 11, 2013, 2:29 PM
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Volplane is correct Robert. The early days of square and other non round parachutes was wild. The best looking one IMO was the Barish Sail Wing. See photo below.

http://www.search-results.com/...ale%3Den_US&qt=0

377

1. Leonardo Da Vinci

Codex Atlanticus Folio 381

"If a man have a tent of linen without any apertures, twelve ells across and twelve in depth, he can throw himself down from any great height without injury"

I wonder why the Roman armies didnt use it! Were
they just ignorant?

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh


(This post was edited by georger on Jan 11, 2013, 2:31 PM)


377  (F 666)

Jan 11, 2013, 2:44 PM
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Farf I'm not one of those jumpers that picks a fight with anything a Whuffo says and I dont expect them to be especially appreciative of being treated in a civil manner.

And yes, jumpers feel they are free to opine on all sorts of non jumping stuff here and that their opinion shall take precedence over anything contrary posted by a Whuffo regardless of the Whuffo's subject matter expertise. Titanium Schmitanium. We know what happened. We don't need no stinking scanning electron microscopes. Wink

BTW, what happened with your colleague who didnt sign the option amendment? Did he get rich?

The CEO of a company in Silicon Valley bought a Ferrari right after a successful IPO in which he got a lions share stake of the upside. Things didn't work out so well:

http://www.nytimes.com/...th-in-a-ferrari.html

377


(This post was edited by 377 on Jan 11, 2013, 2:48 PM)


377  (F 666)

Jan 11, 2013, 2:55 PM
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Georger wrote
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. Leonardo Da Vinci

Codex Atlanticus Folio 381

"If a man have a tent of linen without any apertures, twelve ells across and twelve in depth, he can throw himself down from any great height without injury"

I wonder why the Roman armies didnt use it! Were
they just ignorant?

Check this out!: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7370151.stm

377


georger

Jan 11, 2013, 3:05 PM
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Farf I'm not one of those jumpers that picks a fight with anything a Whuffo says and I dont expect them to be especially appreciative of being treated in a civil manner.

And yes, jumpers feel they are free to opine on all sorts of non jumping stuff here and that their opinion shall take precedence over anything contrary posted by a Whuffo regardless of the Whuffo's subject matter expertise. Titanium Schmitanium. We know what happened. We don't need no stinking scanning electron microscopes. Wink

BTW, what happened with your colleague who didnt sign the option amendment? Did he get rich?

The CEO of a company in Silicon Valley bought a Ferrari right after a successful IPO in which he got a lions share stake of the upside. Things didn't work out so well:

http://www.nytimes.com/...th-in-a-ferrari.html

377

But Leonardo wasnt civil. He "borrwed" the concept
of the para-chute. Thats the whole point! There is a
lot of "borrowing" going on around here. Everything
else is make believe. No new original work, except
for all the reports of 'daily functions', and some
record them! Some discuss them. Some repeat
them! And some NEW entity will come along and
borrow ands present them all. Yaaaaaaaaaawn.

Some people go to to town and see the elephant
and are mystified by the ears and talk about it daily
thereafter, for the rest of their lives.

Hydaulic pistons indeed. Who are you kidding!
We see the symbolism! Laugh The women sure do!


(This post was edited by georger on Jan 11, 2013, 3:07 PM)


377  (F 666)

Jan 11, 2013, 3:15 PM
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YUP, really hydraulic.


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Cliff Davis D-1594 (22 months ago | reply)

I have experience jumping the Volplane. I however have no experience landing the Volplane. On January 23, 1971 the weather in Stroud Oklahoma is cold enough that the oil in the Hydraulic cylinder of the Volplane didn't release and after riding it for 1000 feet I got my first reserve ride on a tri conical. Another well intentioned experiment gone wrong.

377


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Robert99

Jan 11, 2013, 5:34 PM
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YUP, really hydraulic.


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Cliff Davis D-1594 (22 months ago | reply)

I have experience jumping the Volplane. I however have no experience landing the Volplane. On January 23, 1971 the weather in Stroud Oklahoma is cold enough that the oil in the Hydraulic cylinder of the Volplane didn't release and after riding it for 1000 feet I got my first reserve ride on a tri conical. Another well intentioned experiment gone wrong.

377

I am almost shocked that it would be hydraulic with oil. Back in the 1960-1970 era, I got a bit of experience with hydraulic flight control systems in helicopters.

Cold weather and the O rings in the hardware don't get along with each other in the first place. Even in more moderate climates the O rings routinely leaked fluid and made a mess. Overhaul of these units was necessary at very frequent intervals.

In a parachute, I imagine the canopy and harness would be damaged when one of these units leaked a bit. I doubt if the ripstop material used in canopies in 1971 could handle the oil.

Robert99


skyjack71

Jan 11, 2013, 6:40 PM
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Jo, Are you claiming that Jefferson was a Federal Prison?

And who issued this "commutation of sentence" that you refer to above?

Robert99

U ARE THE ONE WHO NEED TO READ. THE COMMUNATION IS REAL VERY VERY REAL. As for Jefferson you are asking me a question I do not know nor have I any reason to know - a prison is a prison is a prison and is a prison.


skyjack71

Jan 11, 2013, 6:51 PM
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Below is how myths are born by those who did NOT do any research by reading the books.


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Must ask:

Whatever happened to the hotel clerk?

Cool

LAST I heard he is still in China and had a new baby by his chinese wife. His American wife I have lost contact with, but she had surgery the last time we spoke a couple of yrs ago.

I haven't tried to email him in ages - as it always went thur his American Wife before - a name on her acct.

Why do you ask?
Like I said I have NOT tried to contact either in the last 2 yrs or since the baby was born.


Robert99

Jan 11, 2013, 7:50 PM
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In reply to:
Jo, Are you claiming that Jefferson was a Federal Prison?

And who issued this "commutation of sentence" that you refer to above?

Robert99

U ARE THE ONE WHO NEED TO READ. THE COMMUNATION IS REAL VERY VERY REAL. As for Jefferson you are asking me a question I do not know nor have I any reason to know - a prison is a prison is a prison and is a prison.

Jo, You need to ask 377 about State and Federal Prisons. And who would sign a commutation in each case. You might learn something.

Robert99


skyjack71

Jan 11, 2013, 7:59 PM
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In reply to:
In reply to:

In reply to:
Jo, Are you claiming that Jefferson was a Federal Prison?

And who issued this "commutation of sentence" that you refer to above?

Robert99

U ARE THE ONE WHO NEED TO READ. THE COMMUNATION IS REAL VERY VERY REAL. As for Jefferson you are asking me a question I do not know nor have I any reason to know - a prison is a prison is a prison and is a prison.

Jo, You need to ask 377 about State and Federal Prisons. And who would sign a commutation in each case. You might learn something.

Robert99

THAT IS ALL IN THE THREAD AND IT WAS SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE AT THAT TIME. You do YOUR own research. I believe the Commutation exists on the thread a document. We DID ALL OF THIS AND IT IS VALID.

Go the prison files yourself. It is there also. I do NOT feel like dealing with the LIKES of you. END of YOUR enquires that are right here in this thread.


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smokin99

Jan 11, 2013, 8:00 PM
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item attached for your perusal...

1. Jo, Is this the commutation you are talking about?
Grabbed it from a previous post.

2. A Gossett snippet from the past. What does it all mean? ...absolutely nothing..Cool. Just interesting is all. Smile
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mrshutter45

Jan 11, 2013, 8:07 PM
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In reply to:
In reply to:

In reply to:
Jo, Are you claiming that Jefferson was a Federal Prison?

And who issued this "commutation of sentence" that you refer to above?

Robert99

U ARE THE ONE WHO NEED TO READ. THE COMMUNATION IS REAL VERY VERY REAL. As for Jefferson you are asking me a question I do not know nor have I any reason to know - a prison is a prison is a prison and is a prison.

Jo, You need to ask 377 about State and Federal Prisons. And who would sign a commutation in each case. You might learn something.

Robert99

It's not a big secretive kind of thing.....

Q: What are the differences between a pardon and a commutation?
A: A pardon can be granted at any time after the offense is committed, including before a person
is tried, convicted, sentenced, or starts serving a sentence. Typically, however, a pardon is not
granted until after a person has finished serving their sentence and remained law-abiding for a
certain period of time (e.g., 5 years). Commutations are typically granted only while the person
is still serving their sentence.
The effects of a pardon are also different than the effects of a commutation. A pardon
usually restores most or all of the offender’s civil rights (e.g., voting, holding public office,
serving as a juror, gun ownership) and, in a few states, also expunges (removes) the person’s
conviction from their criminal record. Unlike pardons, commutations do not restore civil rights
or expunge a person’s record. Receiving a pardon or a commutation usually also does not mean
that the person is considered innocent of the crime. Both pardons and commutations can come
with conditions attached, such as requiring that the person avoid certain behaviors (e.g., drug
use) in the future.

http://www.famm.org/..._11.19.08%5B1%5D.pdf

Commutation of sentence involves the reduction of legal penalties, especially in terms ... head of government and is normally linked to prisoners' good behavior.


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RobertMBlevins

Jan 11, 2013, 8:33 PM
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item attached for your perusal...

1. Jo, Is this the commutation you are talking about?
Grabbed it from a previous post.

2. A Gossett snippet from the past. What does it all mean? ...absolutely nothing..Cool. Just interesting is all. Smile

Not a real big deal...but I was wondering how...if Gossett picked up 200k in pocket change a couple of years before...why he couldn't even pay a $300 tax bill?


smokin99

Jan 11, 2013, 8:44 PM
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Forgot this one......

http://www.findagrave.com/...122&df=all&]


smokin99

Jan 11, 2013, 8:58 PM
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LOL...I had a feeling someone would bite. let's see....

Tax bills......Reasons one might not pay on time....

1. Divorce - It's her responsibility now, damn it.
2. Forgot
3. Procrastination.....making him wait.
4. Don't want to part with money until last possible minute.
5. Everyone else is doing it.
6. Form of protest.
7. Misplaced the safe deposit box key so can't get to heisted twenties.
8. Lost the money on the trip down.
9. Broke as hell cause Kenny wouldn't give him his half of the money.

Like I said - means nothing in the DB Cooper scheme of things.

I know one guy that's wealthy, but is tight as a tick and has every dime and dollar he's ever made. He's an old southern lawyer and waits til the folks are gathered on the courthouse steps like vultures before he pays his taxes. Smile
And he can afford to pay his and lots more besides. Funny as hell too. One of my favorite people. Makes me smile just thinking about him. Smile


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skyjack71

Jan 11, 2013, 9:03 PM
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item attached for your perusal...

1. Jo, Is this the commutation you are talking about?
Grabbed it from a previous post.

2. A Gossett snippet from the past. What does it all mean? ...absolutely nothing..Cool. Just interesting is all. Smile

Thank YOU!

Note the commutation is for John Collins and Weber was a 5 plus time felon. They do NOT provide Commutations for someone who has already spent time in other prisons. The Commutation was supposed to be for Duane L. Weber. He was upset about that!

The exwife discussed this with me....but, she declined to say anymore that he was angry as hell about it.. I went into all of this before and there is NO need to repeat it all for Robtert99. It was supposed to mean a new life for them....the commutation was supposed to read Duane L. Weber. So the FBI wants a GRUDE - Duane did have a grudge about that. Whatever he did in Jefferson was never revealed.

The wife said she would go to see him and be told he was in solitary. That happened several times - if a guy is in solitare several times in 16 months - it is doubtful he would be granted a Commutation. WHERE was he really.

Remember that the FBI would NOT provide me with anything so I could prove I was the wife of Duane and his AKA - so I was refused access to Jefferson papers. Only after the required time for the files to be destroyed
did Carr stated I could find them online...by then the inside file had been deleted. No info available.


mrshutter45

Jan 11, 2013, 9:08 PM
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"Note the commutation is for John Collins and Weber was a 5 plus time felon. They do NOT provide Commutations for someone who has already spent time in other prisons"

who told you this?


smokin99

Jan 11, 2013, 9:28 PM
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I am wondering about Gossett's military service - if the inscription is correct. If he was in WW2, then he would have had to join when he was 15. I think he was born in July, 1930.
Unless they include a certain number of years after the surrender as WW2 era?? Anyone know?


mrshutter45

Jan 11, 2013, 9:33 PM
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I am wondering about Gossett's military service - if the inscription is correct. If he was in WW2, then he would have had to join when he was 15. I think he was born in July, 1930.
Unless they include a certain number of years after the surrender as WW2 era?? Anyone know?

I don't know much about him, look it up on SSDI possibly?


mrshutter45

Jan 11, 2013, 9:55 PM
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COMMUTATION is the reduction of a sentence to a lesser sentence. The most common application is a commutation to credit an inmate's sentence with time spent on reprieve if he completes the reprieve satisfactorily. Rarely used but essential to the State are two forms of executive clemency: commutation of an unjust sentence and commutation of a death sentence.

there are several options for this term as seen above, I have never heard of being in another prison excludes Commutation
this is similar to Parole which every prisoner is entitled to, unless directed by the courts.

you do realize if someone receives a 4 year sentence, they will not serve 4 years unless they cause trouble in the system, gain time up to 10 days a month can reduce your sentence.....


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