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Farflung

Nov 14, 2012, 9:05 AM
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“When The Going Gets Weird….. [In reply to] Can't Post

The Weird Turn Pro.” Hunter S. Thompson


Well, I’m trapped in some sort of parallel universe where Hunter remains relevant, biting and visionary. So the ‘scandal’ now has another ‘Supreme Commander’ sending hundreds of emails to Jill Kelley. I figured this was just a scab covering a bunch of goo.

But just when I thought the joke would end there, I find that Jill Kelley has a twin. Now this story has morphed deep into screenplays, rejected by soap operas for being too unbelievable.

I dated a twin once. A colonel got wind of this and asked me to ‘fix him up’, and hinted that it could enhance my career, while nudging me in the ribs, and saying “If you know what I mean.” I said it made me feel uncomfortable and I would prefer to pass on his ‘request’.

He reminds me of his rank and I finally buckle, just like the wimpy coward, I truly know I am. I managed to negotiate their date, by telling some big stories to Fiona, about this colonel to make him sound great. The shame I feel is truly bottomless, and there’s no way I can ever erase what I did, no matter the alcohol, heroin or bath salts consumed, in a futile effort to simply….forget.

I’m a lot older now, and I hope a little wiser. Who knows in this crazy, topsy-turvy world, how anything will turn out? My relationship with Fiona was short lived, as so many whirlwind, military produced, romances are, and I find myself in quiet moments, wondering what ever happened to Fiona and her brother. By the way, nothing ever became of my career, so there may be a lesson there somewhere. I dunno.
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Robert99

Nov 14, 2012, 9:10 AM
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Perhaps Blevins stating 1974 was in error - as NO ONE knows how that money got there.

Jo, You WILL deny it, you ALWAYS do, but just a few days ago you were making posts that you told the FBI in the late 1990s how the money got there.

Remember your stories about Duane throwing a paper bag, small enough to put in the pocket of his wind breaker, into the Columbia upstream of Tena Bar in 1979? Then just a few months later the money was found. You subsequently told the FBI that is how the money got to Tena Bar.

When it is convenient, you claim that the money was in that paper bag. Again when it is convenient, you claim that you don't know what was in the paper bag.

You have got as much egg on your face as Marla, Blevins, Sailshaw, and anyone else on this thread who is pushing a specific Cooper candidate.

Robert99


Robert99

Nov 14, 2012, 9:27 AM
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Re: [skyjack71] JO, YOU HAVE SLANDERED SLUGGO! [In reply to] Can't Post

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Beautiful country thru Oregon, Idhao and WA - it rain most of the time I was there and I got sick a couple of days and even on a good day I was only good for about 5 hours.

Sluggo had offered to go with me - but, I wanted NO negative vibrations and it was SOMETHING I had to do for my own peace of mind.

Jo, you owe Sluggo an apology!

Sluggo putting out negative vibrations? Who do you think you are kidding?

However, I fully understand that, in your case, truth is a negative vibration.

Robert99


mrshutter45

Nov 14, 2012, 1:09 PM
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Robert99 says:
Jo, You WILL deny it, you ALWAYS do, but just a few days ago you were making posts that you told the FBI in the late 1990s how the money got there.

Jo says: as NO ONE knows how that money got there.


Jo says:
This woman told the FBI about the places he stopped in 1979, but she had NO idea she was the first person to ever explain how the money got on Tena's bar. She had NO idea what she was doing - just telling what her husband told her and what her husband did on that trip.

Houston, we have a problem Cool


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mrshutter45

Nov 14, 2012, 3:03 PM
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Simulation Update [In reply to] Can't Post

thought we could take a break here and watch a better version of the simulator.
Microsoft 2004 Simulator
with the following addons
Ground Environment Pro
Ultimate Terrain USA
Active Sky Evolution
Portland KPDX upgrade.

make sure and click for HD quality,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDvHMtBj6mU


RobertMBlevins

Nov 14, 2012, 4:43 PM
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Decided: I won't be at Ariel this year. Too many things to take care of this weekend, and even if it were NEXT weekend, that is also out.

I wish everyone going the best. Smile

Yeah...I'm going to be doing the final edit on the first book we've had come out since March, and it's a good one. I won't tell you the title, 'cause that's kinda like marketing if I do, but here's the basic plot:

A young couple from Portland, Oregon is preparing to move to Texas. She's a nurse, and six weeks' pregnant. He's a former Army officer who served in Iraq. But the crash has come, and both lost their jobs and their home was foreclosed.

On the way down, they take a side road and decide to park the U-Haul on a dirt road just off the highway. They are sleeping in the cab when a rookie State Patrolman pulls up on them. It's raining hard, and when the husband reaches into the glove box to get the papers, a 9mm pistol he stuck in there for protection after they parked falls out.

The cop panics, and forces them out of the truck. When the wife tells the cop that her husband not only has a permit for the gun, but is also a decorated war vet...the cop tells her to shut up and pushes her against the truck. She falls into the mud, and suddenly she's having pains where a fetus is supposed to be. She puts her arms around her stomach and groans.

The husband completely loses it and he and cop start rolling around in the rain and mud, each trying to get the upper hand. The husband finally subdues the young cop and handcuffs him inside his own cruiser. Then he takes his wife in the UHaul to the nearest hospital.

It's bad. The impact and the fall not only cause her to miscarry, but emergency surgery must be done. It's a reletively minor procedure, but when she comes out of it a couple of hours later, the doctor tells them she will be fine, but she can no longer have children.

Meanwhile...the cop finally frees himself from the cuffs. The husband disabled the cruiser and its radio, so the cop starts walking back to town. When he reaches the station, they put out an APB on the UHaul and the couple for kidnapping, assualt, etc.

Knowing the cops are going to be looking for them, the husband signs out his wife AMA and they flee to Northern California and end up at the ranch of a guy he served in Iraq with...his Top Sergeant.

What they don't know is that Sgt Cummings, after his wife left him for his veterinarian...has turned to bank robbery to make ends meet. In fact, that's how he bought the little ranch. When the couple arrives, Cummings tells them they are already on television news and they have to ditch the UHaul.

So that night, Cummings and the former Captain Taylor sneak the truck out to highway 101 near Eureka to ditch the thing. As they pull away in Cummings' van, another cop sees them and runs the plates on the UHaul. It's wanted. He gives chase on the van. Cummings tells his former CO to hide in the back. He pulls over for the cop. When the cop walks up to the van, Cummings takes out .45 and shoots the cop in the head, killing him instantly, and then speeds off back to the ranch without being seen.

Now it's murder, and all three of them are involved. Cummings reveals to them (during a huge argument) that he's been robbing banks, and he plans to rob a few more to get the money to leave the country. He tells the Taylors' that if they're smart, they will go along, otherwise everyone is screwed. They have no choice, and it turns out that Cummings is heavily armed. He and his former partner had robbed an Army Reserve armory for several LAWS rockets, satchel charges, and other assorted items.

Within a week, the trio has already shot it out with two more police cars, killing the occupants, robbed a bank for nearly $700,000, did a home invasion on a rich couple in order to obtain new vehicles, and during the actual robbery, killed two MORE police officers who tried to stop them when they emerged from the bank.

Now they try to flee to Seattle, where Cummings has a friend who can get them legit passports and a way out of the country. They are now considered terrorists and placed on the FBI's Top Ten list, and being hunted by both citizens and police alike. The media picks up on it once they are identified because they are both decorated vets...and one was the CO, the other being his Top. It's big news.

You want to know the rest? Have to wait...(*smiles*).

Author: Julia Broussard


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skyjack71

Nov 14, 2012, 7:37 PM
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You Robert 99 take things and you twist and twist and twist.
Perhaps YOU do not know the story - I corrected you ONE time on this and Now I will do it again!



There WAS more than ONE stop on the RIVER and YOU are the one who mixes them up.

HOW MANY TIME DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU.

1. FIRST Stop on river. Duane tells me to stay in the car (this was the location EAST of Winterly Park).

It is early morning. He pops the trunk and goes DOWN a slope to the river. I am getting restless and was getting OUT of the car when he comes up the slope. He pops the trunk and puts the shovel in it before I can get completely OUT of the car.

NOTE I DO NOT KNOW WHAT HE DID WHEN HE WENT TO THE RIVER AT THAT TIME.

2. The SECOND stop was at a large green tank and we both got out of the car and walked around.

3. We go WEST of the Interstate we had taken to Vancouver. This is when we made another stop I later found to be Tena's bar - He leave me in the CAR and goes down to the river. HE DID NOT HAVE A SACK IN HIS HAND. I have told that if he had anything it had to have been in his jacket pocket (windbreaker with a fuzzy lining). I do NOT mention a paper sack in relation to Tena's bar.

Smile4. Fourth Stop The FINAL STOP ON THE RIVER - IS BEHIND THE RED LION AT THE BASE OF THE PORTLAND BRIDGE. This location is when he took the PAPER SACK AND THREW IT IN THE RIVER. I had asked about the bag and was told it was trash. (I was not a nosy or suspicious woman and did NOT look in the sack).
Smile
He sent me to get us some snacks and sodas (he told me their location - so he was VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS MOTEL).
He also told me where the LADIES ROOM was
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IT was on this STOP that he threw the PAPER BAG into the RIVER...HE DID NOT PUT A PAPER BAG INTO HIS POCKET.
IT WAS FOLDED OVER LIKE A LUNCH BAG AND HE TOLD ME IT WAS JUST TRASH.

AT THE RIVER - AT THE REDLION MOTEL. HE WAS STANDING OUT IN THE BACK AND I ASKED HIM WHAT HE WAS DOING AND HE TOLD ME HE WAS WATCHING THAT SACK FLOAT DOWN THE RIVER. I NEVER FORGOT THIS BECAUSE I AM A FREAK ABOUT THROWING THINGS INTO ANY BODY OF WHAT THAT SHOULD NOT BE THERE. I even went to the BARRELS and LOOK INTO THEM TO SEE IF HE WAS JUST PULLING MY LEG. They had been recently clean out by the cleaning crew. NONE OF THE BARRELS HAD ANY TRASH IN THEM.

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL THIS TO GET THRU YOUR THICK SKULL? IF I WAS NOT AFRAID CALLING YOU NAMES WOULD GET ME BANNED - YOU WOULD BE CALLED EVERY FRICKING NAME I have EVER HEAR IN MY LIFE .


skyjack71

Nov 14, 2012, 7:46 PM
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THE BAG HE THREW INTO THE COLUMBIA FROM BEHIND THE RED LION WAS TOO LARGE TO FIT IN HIS JACKET POCKET. HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO DESCRIBE THE BAG. Larger than the small bags used for sandwiches or candy - I have explained it as a large lunch bag or one that would hold ice cream but the top was rolled tightly over - the fold at the top was rolled over about 3 times...so it was obvious the bag was NOT full.

He was still in the car when I got out to do the errand he sent me on. The bag was there when I exited the car and he had told me earlier it was just trash. He told me he would be around back and that is where I went and when the bag was thrown into the water - because I asked him what he was looking at. He said that bag going down the river. I could not see the bag as I am near sited and it was out of my site range.

The bag when I first saw it was on our way to the Red Lion so I expect when he got back into the car he had taken it from his side near the door or from under the seat. The first time and only time I saw it it was on his side and near his right foot. He did NOT leave me alone with the bag and if he had I was disciplined enought NOT to look in it. THAT is how I am!

At this time I will explain something else. When we moved from VA to AL and in 1988 I
There was an envelope taped under his desk on the backside of the desk behind the center drawer - he came in just as I spotted it. He accused me of snooping, but some papers I was working on had got caught in the drawer and fell behind the drawer so I had to remove the drawer. He accused me of snooping and I explained what I was doing and did NOT mention what I had seen.

What did I see - an evelope taped to the back side of the desk and with scribbles over the seal. I never got to see the contents...because I did SNOOP as I went back to this the next time I was alone in the house - the envelope was GONE.

Now YOU GUYS know something I have NEVER told before. I expect the contents of that envelope would end up being what was found in the hidden wallet in the Van - which I sold after he died in 1995.


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skyjack71

Nov 14, 2012, 8:31 PM
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Jo, You WILL deny it, you ALWAYS do, but just a few days ago you were making posts that you told the FBI in the late 1990s how the money got there.

Jo States:
It was 1996 to 2000 that I explained to the FBI and anyone who would listen - the story about how the money got in the river. I would not know it was Tena's bar until 2001
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Remember your stories about Duane throwing a paper bag, small enough to put in the pocket of his wind breaker, into the Columbia upstream of Tena Bar in 1979?

Jo States:
The bag was never in his jacket pocket and a paper bag was thrown in the water at the Red Lion on the last wk of Nov or Oct of 1979
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Then just a few months later the money was found. You subsequently told the FBI that is how the money got to Tena Bar.

Jo States:
I described the points and time Duane could have put something in or on the river.

Until 1996 I was the first and only person to explain HOW the money got into the river other than the claims made by the FBI to the media (note I didn't know I was explaining how the money got on Tena's bar - I didn't know where the HELL Tena's Bar was when I picked up the phone and called them that night 1 yr and 2 months after Duane had died).

Dumb broad was just calling them to let them know what her husband had told her - and she didn't know until the night of the first call to the FBI in 1996 that Dan Cooper (what Weber told me 11 days before he died) was D.B.Cooper).
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When it is convenient, you claim that the money was in that paper bag. Again when it is convenient, you claim that you don't know what was in the paper bag.

Jo States:
I did NOT tell anything for convenience - I just told them about my life with WEBER and the strange things he did on that trip and what happened after the trip. Most of the time all I got was a mouthpiece who knew ZERO about the crime!
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You have got as much egg on your face as Marla, Blevins, Sailshaw, and anyone else on this thread who is pushing a specific Cooper candidate.

Jo States:
No I don't have egg on my face - but you has crap in your mouth and I was NOT pushing a candidate - merrily explaining the things Duane did on that trip.

Robert9


skyjack71

Nov 14, 2012, 8:42 PM
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Beautiful country thru Oregon, Idhao and WA - it rain most of the time I was there and I got sick a couple of days and even on a good day I was only good for about 5 hours.

Sluggo had offered to go with me - but, I wanted NO negative vibrations and it was SOMETHING I had to do for my own peace of mind.

Jo, you owe Sluggo an apology!

Sluggo putting out negative vibrations? Who do you think you are kidding?

However, I fully understand that, in your case, truth is a negative vibration.

Robert99


FrownPERHAPS NEGATIVE IS THE WRONG WORD, BUT HE HAD DISMISSED DUANE AND THAT WAS NOT A POSITIVE FACTOR TO HAVE ON MY TRIP.

ShockedHE WOULD HAVE BEEN DOING THE DRIVING AND THEN AS IT WAS WHEN I WENT WITH THAT CREW - THEY DROVE FAST AND AND IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN MY MEMORIES MAKING THE TURNS AND FINDING THE PLACES I FOUND....I NEEDED TO BE ALONE.

Within my pitiful pea brain that is how I derived at using the word negative. He had already dismissed parts of the story I told him just like JT and tell me I could not have been here or there and that I was there and not here.

NOW do you GET it. PROBABLY not - you are a man and not a woman.


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skyjack71

Nov 14, 2012, 8:57 PM
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Robert99 says:
Jo, You WILL deny it, you ALWAYS do, but just a few days ago you were making posts that you told the FBI in the late 1990s how the money got there.

Jo says: as NO ONE knows how that money got there.


Jo says:
This woman told the FBI about the places he stopped in 1979, but she had NO idea she was the first person to ever explain how the money got on Tena's bar. She had NO idea what she was doing - just telling what her husband told her and what her husband did on that trip.

Houston, we have a problem Cool

SmileYep this woman behind the wheel in WA. For some reason I do not seem to make myself clear - I told the FBI and JT about the trip of 1979 to WA just as I told Mr. H. I told about the places Weber and I went to and stopped at. A woman who had only been to WA ONE time in her life. I needed to be alone - and if another person had been with me on the trip I made in 2010 - the truth would have been buried forever. WHY do you think I did NOT even tell the FBI I was going?

I valued Sluggo's information, but I needed to do it on my own.
He was the ONLY one I trusted to tell WHAT I was doing and kept in touch with him by EMAIL when I had access to a computer on the road. CARR told me I should NOT go to WA - WHY?

ShockedHis excuse was I would get myself into trouble - what the hell did he think I was going to do? Go to the FBI office?

I stayed LOW key the whole trip and only called the FBI on the 14th day and before I flew out on the 15th day. I called the PORTLAND FBI office and not the SEATTLE office. They were very nice to me on the phone.

NEVER tell a Woman SHE CAN't do something - especially this woman!


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RobertMBlevins

Nov 14, 2012, 9:11 PM
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I'm going to give Skyjack71 the benefit of the doubt and assume that everything she says regarding the bag, the Columbia River, and the Red Lion are true.

Unfortunately, it doesn't prove a thing. No one except Duane knew what was in the bag. Without ever catching a glimpse of what was inside...it really could have been...just trash. People (unfortunately) toss garbage into rivers all the time. There just isn't any way to make the connection between the Tena Bar money and someone who tossed a bag into the Columbia miles upstream from Tena Bar.

I don't enjoy giving you advice, Jo. But you need just one witness...one piece of physical evidence...one good document, SOMETHING to help build your case. I have a ton of these things on Christiansen, and I still can't prove he was the hijacker. Pictures, witness testimony, documents, his own letters home. You have very little except your story. I fully believe that YOU believe Weber was the guy, and I have some sympathy for having to live with that and trying to convince others that he WAS the guy.

Let's face it, though. You need more evidence. You can prove a lot of things, but unfortunately most of them don't have to do with anything directly related to events that happened between Portland/Seattle/Portland on 11/21/1971.

I will be the first to say that I could all wrong about KC. Maybe it's just a bunch of coincidences, whatever. It's possible. But I for one would like to see just a single piece of hard evidence, or even some decent circumstantial evidence on Weber. I mean something beyond lookalike pictures or proving he was in jail in Washington state or knew the area. That doesn't narrow it down enough.


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skyjack71

Nov 14, 2012, 9:46 PM
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I'm going to give Skyjack71 the benefit of the doubt and assume that everything she says regarding the bag, the Columbia River, and the Red Lion are true.
(edited to cut to the chase)

Let's face it, though. You need more evidence. You can prove a lot of things, but unfortunately most of them don't have to do with anything directly related to events that happened between Portland/Seattle/Portland on 11/21/1971.

I know what I saw and I know what Duane told me and I know what I found and I know the FBI lied to me (WHY?).

At least MY ACCOUNTING is first person and not he said or she said. I did not and am encapable of putting together something for 17 yrs and being consistent. My goal has been to find the truth - and I spent 17 yrs of my life with this man...one who was my husband and who made a confession I did not understand. " I'm Dannn Coooper?" I wish to hell I had never learned who Dannn Cooooper was - the last 18 yrs life would have been much easier and much more productive.

I actually proved the FBI lied to me and to this day I do NOT understand how the agent could make those kinds of mistakes if they had genuinely investigated Weber. The thread itself found information on WEBER the FBI didn't find. There are too many holes in the FBI's investigation of Weber.!

It is time for the FBI to prove Weber WAS not Cooper and not the other way around. IF they had PROOF Weber was NOT Cooper they would have presented it by now. The only official information they gave me was a letter in 1998 saying he was dismissed on finger prints.

Finger Prints the agent told me were taken from a prison FILE.
Then in 2000 this same agent told me Weber was NEVER a resident of THAT prison. He also told me My husband was NEVER in the Army. That is what OUR FBI? To borrow the express used in reference to me - "Houston, we have a problem".

The GOVERMENT never admits when they have made mistakes.
It is time to make things right.

A lot of human waste has gone down the river in the last 17 yrs with the different organizations within the departments of our governing organization in the USA. The system is so polluted there is NO recovery in site - and perhaps they need to take a few steps back and look at the image America is portraying to the world.

Major SKYJACKING still unsolved after 40 yrs? Tongue

The 1st Lady doesn't want an admired and successful business woman to visit the White House because she has a negative opinion about this person.Tongue

A government whose politicians and other governing organization can't avoid temptation nor manage their own private affairs.

Everyday when you pick up the paper or listen to the news - for the past few yrs it has been one corruption after another, crime is rampant and children killing children - What Happened to America?

When 11 yr olds and 6 yr olds can destory public property with NO consequences - what will they be doing when the are 21 and 26? You can lay odds they won't be productive citizens. The life lessons about right and wrongs start when a child is born and by example....


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Robert99

Nov 14, 2012, 10:15 PM
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It is time for the FBI to prove Weber WAS not Cooper and not the other way around. IF they had PROOF Weber was NOT Cooper they would have presented it by now. The only official information they gave me was a letter in 1998 saying he was dismissed on finger prints.

Finger Prints the agent told me were taken from a prison FILE.
Then in 2000 this same agent told me Weber was NEVER a resident of THAT prison. He also told me My husband was NEVER in the Army.

Jo, You CANNOT prove a "negative"!

Since Duane got into the Army by fraud, which was soon discovered, and then booted out, there is a very real possibility that legally speaking, Duane was never in the Army.

Robert99


skyjack71

Nov 14, 2012, 11:01 PM
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It is time for the FBI to prove Weber WAS not Cooper and not the other way around. IF they had PROOF Weber was NOT Cooper they would have presented it by now. The only official information they gave me was a letter in 1998 saying he was dismissed on finger prints.

Finger Prints the agent told me were taken from a prison FILE.
Then in 2000 this same agent told me Weber was NEVER a resident of THAT prison. He also told me My husband was NEVER in the Army.

Jo, You CANNOT prove a "negative"!

Since Duane got into the Army by fraud, which was soon discovered, and then booted out, there is a very real possibility that legally speaking, Duane was never in the Army.

Robert99


I had the letter he wrote to his mother and what the VA provided me - He was definitely in the ARMY - I have even given his serial number in the past. Only AFTER I brought up the Army thing and my proof in 2000 did they (the FBI) ADMIT Weber was indeed in the Army - in fact it was then that I was able to obtain the ending date - just a few wks.

There are also personal accountings of Duane's history in the army in the Family history - one is a humerous story and since the individuals are NOT liars their records stand. One of the guys was a prior in-law of Duane's. That is another story!
Not giving away all of my stuff and if you had such a great memory you would know I have told the story before and wrote about it.

Do you ever watch Criminal Minds and CSI Those writers must loft here and be part of the jumping world - words and things this thread talks about jump right off the screen. I forget them as soon as the program is over.

I have noticed this for about 3 yrs now. Probably the same writers who did a Cooper segment - Scott and Scott. The story lines each season is written by a panel of writers....but those two just stick out....I am probably the only one who ever notices.

Like the Weber Story - it get old.
But, there is a lot happening no one knows about - so I guess I just need to shut up.


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MeyerLouie

Nov 14, 2012, 11:12 PM
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Decided: I won't be at Ariel this year. Too many things to take care of this weekend, and even if it were NEXT weekend, that is also out.

I wish everyone going the best. Smile

Yeah...I'm going to be doing the final edit on the first book we've had come out since March, and it's a good one. I won't tell you the title, 'cause that's kinda like marketing if I do, but here's the basic plot:

A young couple from Portland, Oregon is preparing to move to Texas. She's a nurse, and six weeks' pregnant. He's a former Army officer who served in Iraq. But the crash has come, and both lost their jobs and their home was foreclosed.

On the way down, they take a side road and decide to park the U-Haul on a dirt road just off the highway. They are sleeping in the cab when a rookie State Patrolman pulls up on them. It's raining hard, and when the husband reaches into the glove box to get the papers, a 9mm pistol he stuck in there for protection after they parked falls out.

The cop panics, and forces them out of the truck. When the wife tells the cop that her husband not only has a permit for the gun, but is also a decorated war vet...the cop tells her to shut up and pushes her against the truck. She falls into the mud, and suddenly she's having pains where a fetus is supposed to be. She puts her arms around her stomach and groans.

The husband completely loses it and he and cop start rolling around in the rain and mud, each trying to get the upper hand. The husband finally subdues the young cop and handcuffs him inside his own cruiser. Then he takes his wife in the UHaul to the nearest hospital.

It's bad. The impact and the fall not only cause her to miscarry, but emergency surgery must be done. It's a reletively minor procedure, but when she comes out of it a couple of hours later, the doctor tells them she will be fine, but she can no longer have children.

Meanwhile...the cop finally frees himself from the cuffs. The husband disabled the cruiser and its radio, so the cop starts walking back to town. When he reaches the station, they put out an APB on the UHaul and the couple for kidnapping, assualt, etc.

Knowing the cops are going to be looking for them, the husband signs out his wife AMA and they flee to Northern California and end up at the ranch of a guy he served in Iraq with...his Top Sergeant.

What they don't know is that Sgt Cummings, after his wife left him for his veterinarian...has turned to bank robbery to make ends meet. In fact, that's how he bought the little ranch. When the couple arrives, Cummings tells them they are already on television news and they have to ditch the UHaul.

So that night, Cummings and the former Captain Taylor sneak the truck out to highway 101 near Eureka to ditch the thing. As they pull away in Cummings' van, another cop sees them and runs the plates on the UHaul. It's wanted. He gives chase on the van. Cummings tells his former CO to hide in the back. He pulls over for the cop. When the cop walks up to the van, Cummings takes out .45 and shoots the cop in the head, killing him instantly, and then speeds off back to the ranch without being seen.

Now it's murder, and all three of them are involved. Cummings reveals to them (during a huge argument) that he's been robbing banks, and he plans to rob a few more to get the money to leave the country. He tells the Taylors' that if they're smart, they will go along, otherwise everyone is screwed. They have no choice, and it turns out that Cummings is heavily armed. He and his former partner had robbed an Army Reserve armory for several LAWS rockets, satchel charges, and other assorted items.

Within a week, the trio has already shot it out with two more police cars, killing the occupants, robbed a bank for nearly $700,000, did a home invasion on a rich couple in order to obtain new vehicles, and during the actual robbery, killed two MORE police officers who tried to stop them when they emerged from the bank.

Now they try to flee to Seattle, where Cummings has a friend who can get them legit passports and a way out of the country. They are now considered terrorists and placed on the FBI's Top Ten list, and being hunted by both citizens and police alike. The media picks up on it once they are identified because they are both decorated vets...and one was the CO, the other being his Top. It's big news.

You want to know the rest? Have to wait...(*smiles*).

Author: Julia Broussard
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AND WE NEEDED TO SEE THIS NON-DBC RELATED STORY BECAUSE.......?? YOU MUST HAVE A LOT OF TIME ON YOUR HANDS BLEVINS. TO TAKE THE TIME TO TYPE UP A LONG, UNRELATED POST -- PAGES AND PAGES, AND FOR WHAT? I KNOW I'M NOT IMPRESSED, AND I'M NOT REALLY ALL THAT INTERESTED IN YOU PEDALING YOUR WARES ON THE FORUM HERE. SELL YOUR BOOKS SOMEWHERE ELSE --HOW PATHETIC!

ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR RIDICULOUS STUNTS -- YOU NEED NOT WONDER WHY YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CREDIBILITY HERE. NO WONDER WE WILL NEVER SEE YOU AT ANY DBC SYMPOSIUMS OR PUBLIC DOIN'S. I'M BETTING YOU DON'T WANT TO SHOW YOUR FACE, YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY DZ PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT YOU -- YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY. NO SHAME DUDE, NO SCRUPLES, NO SCHOLARSHIP, NO PROFESSIONALISM. YOU MIGHT BE HAPPIER MAKING YOURSELF AT HOME AT ANOTHER FORUM, WHERE SPEAKING WITHOUT THINKING FIRST, AND BEING A BUMBLING IDIOT, ARE NORMAL AND ACCEPTABLE -- LIKE SOME OF THOSE PORN SITES, OR UFO OR SASQUATCH SITES. THESE SITES MIGHT BE A BETTER FIT FOR YOU. GET A LIFE, I'M TIRED OF IT. MeyerLouie


RobertMBlevins

Nov 14, 2012, 11:16 PM
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Maybe it's time for Jo to make a trip to Seattle and beforehand...try to get an appointment with Special Agent Thomas Eng. You need to go to the source.

Hey. Maybe we can go there together and Eng will set us both straight. Smile

We could invite Marla along, but I don't think Eng is too happy with her. (*laughs*)

I've actually considered this idea, well...except for the Marla part. I don't even care if Agent Eng whips out The Magic Reason Why KC Can't Possibly Be DB Cooper thing on me. I could put it all behind me, and that would be fine. I always knew it was a long shot anyway. My only satisfaction would be in helping erase a known suspect from the list. I wouldn't like that result, but I could accept it. I'm not afraid of finding out, that's for sure.

It's hard to explain sometimes.

EDIT: Call it a guess, but I think MeyerLouie is mad at me or something. The all-caps in his post above was a giveaway. Come on, Meyer. Copying over the entire post just gives it more traffic. There's no title, nothing on our website about it, and you can't buy it. It's just a plot outline.

I think you are simply pissed that I can't make it to Ariel this year. I have family and business commitments. Cooper is fun, but it isn't my life you know. If I were REALLY trying to push AB or the KC book, I would show up with copies in the truck and blah-blah-blah to people. It's not my style.

My mother in law is coming for Thanksgiving. I have to clean this place up before she arrives. Shampoo carpets, the garage, the full treatment. That is Saturday. On Sunday I watch Seahawks. Work is Monday.

THAT'S why I can't make it. Now you know. Come on, man. Everyone's heard that KC story anyway. (*laughs*) I will see you at the next Ariel. Maybe the Symposium in Tacoma in 2013. I'm already working with Gayla and my family to change the schedule for November of next year. As you know, I'm supposed to do three weeks on the road (and sky via Alaska Airlines) going down to Phoenix for a family reunion, then on to Vista, CA - in November.

But after the symposium idea at the WSHM came up, I started thinking I would like to go. I'm sure I will be able to manage it.

Admit it though...you liked the story, huh? Angelic


(This post was edited by RobertMBlevins on Nov 15, 2012, 1:54 AM)


sailshaw

Nov 15, 2012, 7:11 AM
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mrshutter45:

Great job on the simulator and some neat shots of the older planes.

I expect on the night of the DB Caper, the glow in the clouds over PDX was just enough for DB to use as an indication of when to jump. Using his watch for a rough tool in when to jump and then by the confirmation by eye using the "glow in the clouds" he was able to jump before the Columbia river and just before North Vancouver. He could have left his rental car parked in North Vancouver and within possibly 5 to 10 miles of his dropzone. An easy walk to the car that night and well ahead of the FBI search in a day or two.

The glow in the sky above PDX and Vancouver that I have seen on several night flights was useable for navigation as described above. Some times the weather even leaves holes in the clouds so that actual lights on the ground are visable.

The Piper Cub in your simulator looks very good as does the 727 -7 prototype.Even the colors match what was actually on the prototype. I might have to buy the simulator which would be an up-grade from my present Microsoft Flight Simulator.

Anyway, many thanks for the great posting.

Bob Sailshaw
sailshaw@aol.com


matthewcline  (D 21585)

Nov 15, 2012, 8:10 AM
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"Just a few weeks" is; long enough to find a fraud, determine if it is worth it or not - to prosecute and put in prison, or just discharge with a less than Honorable or even Dishonorable. No time for any training of any actual skills.

Matt


Robert99

Nov 15, 2012, 9:23 AM
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It is time for the FBI to prove Weber WAS not Cooper and not the other way around. IF they had PROOF Weber was NOT Cooper they would have presented it by now. The only official information they gave me was a letter in 1998 saying he was dismissed on finger prints.

Finger Prints the agent told me were taken from a prison FILE.
Then in 2000 this same agent told me Weber was NEVER a resident of THAT prison. He also told me My husband was NEVER in the Army.

Jo, You CANNOT prove a "negative"!

Since Duane got into the Army by fraud, which was soon discovered, and then booted out, there is a very real possibility that legally speaking, Duane was never in the Army.

Robert99


Jo writes:

I had the letter he wrote to his mother and what the VA provided me - He was definitely in the ARMY - I have even given his serial number in the past. Only AFTER I brought up the Army thing and my proof in 2000 did they (the FBI) ADMIT Weber was indeed in the Army - in fact it was then that I was able to obtain the ending date - just a few wks.

There are also personal accountings of Duane's history in the army in the Family history - one is a humerous story and since the individuals are NOT liars their records stand. One of the guys was a prior in-law of Duane's. That is another story!
Not giving away all of my stuff and if you had such a great memory you would know I have told the story before and wrote about it.

R99 replies:

As Matt and I have pointed out earlier, if fraud is involved then there is a legal question about Duane's status in the Army. Even if he was issued an Army serial number and an Army uniform, both were obtained as a result of his fraud. And in booting Duane out, the Army apparently decided that he was never legally in the Army.

If Duane just wanted to wear an Army uniform, there were probably plenty of Army/Navy stores around that would be happy to sell him the uniform, showing whatever rank he desired, and probably ever medal issued by the military (including the MOH) if that would help him pick up girls at the local bars.

Jo writes:

Do you ever watch Criminal Minds and CSI Those writers must loft here and be part of the jumping world - words and things this thread talks about jump right off the screen. I forget them as soon as the program is over.

R99 writes:

I don't watch those programs. But I do have a question. If you forget them (the words) as soon as the program is over, how do you remember them now as coming from this thread?

Jo writes:

I have noticed this for about 3 yrs now. Probably the same writers who did a Cooper segment - Scott and Scott. The story lines each season is written by a panel of writers....but those two just stick out....I am probably the only one who ever notices.

Like the Weber Story - it get old.
But, there is a lot happening no one knows about - so I guess I just need to shut up.

R99 replies:

Just remember you, not me, wrote the last sentence above. And I have not twisted your words in this post.

Robert99


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georger

Nov 15, 2012, 9:27 AM
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Maybe it's time for Jo to make a trip to Seattle and beforehand...try to get an appointment with Special Agent Thomas Eng. You need to go to the source.

Hey. Maybe we can go there together and Eng will set us both straight. Smile

We could invite Marla along, but I don't think Eng is too happy with her. (*laughs*)

I've actually considered this idea, well...except for the Marla part. I don't even care if Agent Eng whips out The Magic Reason Why KC Can't Possibly Be DB Cooper thing on me. I could put it all behind me, and that would be fine. I always knew it was a long shot anyway. My only satisfaction would be in helping erase a known suspect from the list. I wouldn't like that result, but I could accept it. I'm not afraid of finding out, that's for sure.

It's hard to explain sometimes.

EDIT: Call it a guess, but I think MeyerLouie is mad at me or something. The all-caps in his post above was a giveaway. Come on, Meyer. Copying over the entire post just gives it more traffic. There's no title, nothing on our website about it, and you can't buy it. It's just a plot outline.

I think you are simply pissed that I can't make it to Ariel this year. I have family and business commitments. Cooper is fun, but it isn't my life you know. If I were REALLY trying to push AB or the KC book, I would show up with copies in the truck and blah-blah-blah to people. It's not my style.

My mother in law is coming for Thanksgiving. I have to clean this place up before she arrives. Shampoo carpets, the garage, the full treatment. That is Saturday. On Sunday I watch Seahawks. Work is Monday.

THAT'S why I can't make it. Now you know. Come on, man. Everyone's heard that KC story anyway. (*laughs*) I will see you at the next Ariel. Maybe the Symposium in Tacoma in 2013. I'm already working with Gayla and my family to change the schedule for November of next year. As you know, I'm supposed to do three weeks on the road (and sky via Alaska Airlines) going down to Phoenix for a family reunion, then on to Vista, CA - in November.

But after the symposium idea at the WSHM came up, I started thinking I would like to go. I'm sure I will be able to manage it.

Admit it though...you liked the story, huh? Angelic

Sadism.


Farflung

Nov 15, 2012, 4:12 PM
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I guess it is human nature to tweak the nose of fate:

http://www.flightglobal.com/...restrictions-379056/

From the article published earlier….. today:

Around 21,000 sorties have been completed without incident since the USAF lifted a safety-related grounding order imposed for three months late last year…”

Then as if to remind them of something:

http://www.cnn.com/...r-jet-crash-florida/

At least they had a full twelve hours of ‘feel good’ time before reality handed out a bitch slap.

Forecast has six months of groundings, then scattered smugness, before the next ‘incident. No lessons to be learned here either; please go back to your normally scheduled navel gazing.


MeyerLouie

Nov 15, 2012, 8:48 PM
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Maybe it's time for Jo to make a trip to Seattle and beforehand...try to get an appointment with Special Agent Thomas Eng. You need to go to the source.

Hey. Maybe we can go there together and Eng will set us both straight. Smile

We could invite Marla along, but I don't think Eng is too happy with her. (*laughs*)

I've actually considered this idea, well...except for the Marla part. I don't even care if Agent Eng whips out The Magic Reason Why KC Can't Possibly Be DB Cooper thing on me. I could put it all behind me, and that would be fine. I always knew it was a long shot anyway. My only satisfaction would be in helping erase a known suspect from the list. I wouldn't like that result, but I could accept it. I'm not afraid of finding out, that's for sure.

It's hard to explain sometimes.

EDIT: Call it a guess, but I think MeyerLouie is mad at me or something. The all-caps in his post above was a giveaway. Come on, Meyer. Copying over the entire post just gives it more traffic. There's no title, nothing on our website about it, and you can't buy it. It's just a plot outline.

I think you are simply pissed that I can't make it to Ariel this year. I have family and business commitments. Cooper is fun, but it isn't my life you know. If I were REALLY trying to push AB or the KC book, I would show up with copies in the truck and blah-blah-blah to people. It's not my style.

My mother in law is coming for Thanksgiving. I have to clean this place up before she arrives. Shampoo carpets, the garage, the full treatment. That is Saturday. On Sunday I watch Seahawks. Work is Monday.

THAT'S why I can't make it. Now you know. Come on, man. Everyone's heard that KC story anyway. (*laughs*) I will see you at the next Ariel. Maybe the Symposium in Tacoma in 2013. I'm already working with Gayla and my family to change the schedule for November of next year. As you know, I'm supposed to do three weeks on the road (and sky via Alaska Airlines) going down to Phoenix for a family reunion, then on to Vista, CA - in November.

But after the symposium idea at the WSHM came up, I started thinking I would like to go. I'm sure I will be able to manage it.

Admit it though...you liked the story, huh? Angelic
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BLEVINS, THE ONLY REASON I USE ALL CAPS IS SO YOU CAN EASILY SEE THAT YOU ARE GETTING A RESPONSE TO YOUR POST. CONSIDER IT MY 'TRADEMARK' IF YOU WILL. CAPS DO NOT EQUAL ANGER.
YES, THE STORY IS PRETTY GOOD STORY, BUT THIS FORUM IS NOT THE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO BE POSTING IT. PEDDLE YOUR WARES ELSEWHERE.

BLEVINS, YOU'RE SO OFF-THE-WALL WITH SO MANY THINGS YOU SAY HERE -- SOMETIMES INAPPROPRIATE, ASSININE, RIDICULOUS -- SOMETIMES SPONTANEOUS RESPONSES THAT MAKE NO SENSE BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN THE TIME TO THINK THINGS THROUGH BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH.
I'M PISSED THAT YOU DON'T MAKE IT TO ANY SYMPOSIUMS? YOU'RE KIDDING, RIGHT? ACTUALLY, YOU USE THIS FORUM TO SHIELD YOURSELF, I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO SHOW YOUR FACE -- EVER, BECAUSE THEN YOU'D REALLY HAVE TO DEFEND YOUR OUTLANDISH POSITIONS. AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. MeyerLouie


MeyerLouie

Nov 15, 2012, 8:57 PM
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MeyerLouie states:

Question - WHO is Andrew Luck?

I'm a college football fan, I used to go to WSU football games. Luck was second runnerup in the Heisman Trophy race last year (college football's "best football player" -- I think he should have won it), he was the starting quarterback last year for Stanford. This year is his first year as a pro (hence, rookie) and he's doing incredible -- a mature professional way beyond his years.

MeyerLouie


georger

Nov 15, 2012, 9:18 PM
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MeyerLouie states:

Question - WHO is Andrew Luck?

I'm a college football fan, I used to go to WSU football games. Luck was second runnerup in the Heisman Trophy race last year (college football's "best football player" -- I think he should have won it), he was the starting quarterback last year for Stanford. This year is his first year as a pro (hence, rookie) and he's doing incredible -- a mature professional way beyond his years.

MeyerLouie

weyyyulllll,,, here we go! .... I recall this gentleman
Mr. TeBow ......... CrazyMadPiratePirate ...
Let's just say for the sake of argument if TT could
win then A.L. should have won, x12 times over! The
fix was in ? The pros will sort that nonsense out!
I could not agree with you more. And we have LOTS
of company. I am a huge AL fan.

SlyLaugh


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