Forums: Skydiving: Skydiving History & Trivia:
DB Cooper

 

First page Previous page 1 ... 1480 1481 1482 1483 1484 1485 1486 1487 1488 ... 2108 Next page Last page  View All

mrshutter45

Oct 22, 2012, 12:55 PM
Post #37076 of 52696 (19154 views)
Shortcut
Re: [georger] FAROUT [In reply to] Can't Post

Cool


Robert99

Oct 22, 2012, 2:01 PM
Post #37077 of 52696 (19139 views)
Shortcut
Re: [skyjack71] FAROUT [In reply to] Can't Post

In reply to:
In reply to:
In reply to:
I thought Robt99 was a pretty smart guy until recently - now he is showing us exactly what he is made of.

Jo, The above is revisionist history. You have been calling me a "troll living under a bridge" and a "moron" for several years. In fact just check your posts within the last couple of weeks.Angelic

Robert99


Excuse me! A "troll living under a bridge" I don't remember saying that - are you sure it was me?
If I said "moron" it must have been deserved! SEVERAL YEARS?

You have not been on this thread for SEVERAL yrs? If I said both of those things over a several yr period of time - you can bet you had me pissed off big time!

WinkYou would NOT want to know the things I call you after I get off the thread and before I chill out. If my written word was as sharp as my tongue I would have been band from the thread in a New York minute.

In a private moment of anger I am NOT a lady, but I stay in control or try to with the written word. I am sure I have "thought" every word one could apply to a man when I have been opposed.
A wimp I am not.

Jo, the troll remark was made sometime prior to August 2011 and I think it was made sometime in 2010 when you and I exchanged about 10 posts one evening when you went ballastic. But it is mentioned again in a post on page 1021.

If you don't believe you made it, search your own posts for it.

At least one of your "moron" remarks was made within about the past month.

I did find an interesting post (number 25510) for August 7, 2011 and which was made during an earlier discussion on Duane's glasses. Longtimelurker asks "If Duane only needed glasses for reading, why is he wearing them in ever picture?".

On that same page is also a discussion of the great "Duane Serial Number Code Mystery".

With the glasses and code posting continuing even today, it should be readily apparent that nothing really changes here.

Finally, Georger was right.

Robert99


377  (F 666)

Oct 22, 2012, 2:40 PM
Post #37078 of 52696 (19131 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Robert99] FAROUT [In reply to] Can't Post

Farflung wrote:
Quote:
The only thing that makes any sense is the ‘Electronic Underwear’ that Duane wore to receive navigation signals through some sort of vibrating device, which I don’t completely understand. Too complex for me and several amateur radio licensees, one with a double ‘E’. I’m afraid Duane probably took that secret to his grave...

Were he still alive Duane might have been awakened by a phone call from Stockholm and his money worries would have been over. Somewhere there is a schematic of Duane's invention, which would be more far more important than a hot Cooper $20 and the ransom note.

Jo wrote that Duane had no ememies. Excuse me Jo. Are you forgetting about his 26 arrests?

There were likely a few enemies on the other side of his crimes.

I'd also like to see some proof that Duane left money in his victims purses to get them through a day. It would be quite remarkable were that proven to be true.

I represented a lot of accused robbers and thieves. Their family members at sentencing hearings would talk about how basically good and kind they were, but not one of those accused ever left money on the table so to speak. I'll bet Duane didn't either.

377


(This post was edited by 377 on Oct 22, 2012, 2:42 PM)


mrshutter45

Oct 22, 2012, 2:46 PM
Post #37079 of 52696 (19127 views)
Shortcut
Re: [377] FAROUT [In reply to] Can't Post

In reply to:
Farflung wrote:
Quote:
The only thing that makes any sense is the ‘Electronic Underwear’ that Duane wore to receive navigation signals through some sort of vibrating device, which I don’t completely understand. Too complex for me and several amateur radio licensees, one with a double ‘E’. I’m afraid Duane probably took that secret to his grave...

Were he still alive Duane might have been awakened by a phone call from Stockholm and his money worries would have been over. Somewhere there is a schematic of Duane's invention, which would be more far more important than a hot Cooper $20 and the ransom note.

Jo wrote that Duane had no ememies. Excuse me Jo. Are you forgetting about his 26 arrests?

There were likely a few enemies on the other side of his crimes.

I'd also like to see some proof that Duane left money in his victims purses to get them through a day. It would be quite remarkable were that proven to be true.

I represented a lot of accused robbers and thieves. Their family members at sentencing hearings would talk about how basically good and kind they were, but not one of those accused ever left money on the table so to speak. I'll bet Duane didn't either.

377


"I'd also like to see some proof that Duane left money in his victims purses to get them through a day. It would be quite remarkable were that proven to be true."

it's possible that this came about after knowing Cooper offered Tina money on the plane.


skyjack71

Oct 22, 2012, 7:16 PM
Post #37080 of 52696 (19079 views)
Shortcut
Re: [mrshutter45] FAROUT [In reply to] Can't Post

In reply to:
so basically you are saying Duane would be comfortable without his glasses on a plane correct, he could see the front of the plane and watch all of the
passengers without needing his glasses that he always seems to have on.

I still don't follow the DL issue, Duane got the license in 1988 which expired in 92, went back in 90 and was found out correct? what I don't understand is
why this is strange to you, I got both of my DL's at the same DMV. however, I can see them catching him in 90 because they were catching up on the duplicate DL's

YOU do NOT get it at all and ALL you are doing is scrambling the facts.

YOU HAVE ALL the facts about the Driver's License all screwed up.

Duane had an ACTIVE license under Duane L. Weber that was active and valid. BUT in 1990 he tried to get a license UNDER the name of John Collins in addition to the license he had for WEBER.

He did NOT have sufficient ID for John Collins in Santa Rosa County. Then he leaves there and goes straight to Escambia Co where he successfuly obtained the John Collins Drivers license. In the mean time the Santa Rosa Co was investigating Duane - because of his ATTEMPT to obtain the John Collins Id there. They ran a check on the VAN and it was registered to me.

They knocked on my door the next day and I told them I didn't know were he was. I suspected he was at the SHOP and got into my car and drove directly there. BECAUSE of my name they thought he was MY FATHER.

Within moments the 2 policeman and the Highway Patrol walked into the shop . Duane immediately put both hands on the desk. THESE law enforcement like myself did NOT know he had ALREADY obtained the John Collins drivers license the same day he left the Santa Rosa Office. This was NOT known to the FBI and only known to me 2 yrs AFTER I contacted them 1 yr and 2 month after Duane died.

You would need to see the receipt and the paperwork to follow this - the FBI has copies of it all...but, they did NOT understand the sequence nor did I until I investigated it myself 2 yrs AFTER the FBI collected the evidence and documents on Duane Weber I had.

WHY don't you get in your damn car and come see what I am talking about. THE FBI didn't even see the footsteps Duane had made and how he eluded their knowledge of this. It was only with the RECIEPT that it made sense. It took me a long time to see it myself and when I did and others did - lots of eyebrow were raised, but the FBI never revisited this.

Duane need both Weber and Collins active drivers license because he had a safe deposit box in another state unde the John Collins name.


(This post was edited by skyjack71 on Oct 22, 2012, 7:22 PM)


Robert99

Oct 22, 2012, 7:33 PM
Post #37081 of 52696 (19101 views)
Shortcut
Re: [skyjack71] FAROUT [In reply to] Can't Post

In reply to:
Duane had an ACTIVE license under Duane L. Weber that was active and valid. BUT in 1990 he tried to get a license UNDER the name of John Collins in addition to the license he had for WEBER.

He did NOT have sufficient ID for John Collins in Santa Rosa County. Then he leaves there and goes straight to Escambia Co where he successfuly obtained the John Collins Drivers license. In the mean time the Santa Rosa Co was investigating Duane - because of his ATTEMPT to obtain the John Collins Id there. They ran a check on the VAN and it was registered to me.

They knocked on my door the next day and I told them I didn't know were he was. I suspected he was at the SHOP and got into my car and drove directly there. BECAUSE of my name they thought he was MY FATHER.

Within moments the 2 policeman and the Highway Patrol walked into the shop . Duane immediately put both hands on the desk. THESE law enforcement like myself did NOT know he had ALREADY obtained the John Collins drivers license the same day he left the Santa Rosa Office. This was NOT known to the FBI and only known to me 2 yrs AFTER I contacted them 1 yr and 2 month after Duane died.

You would need to see the receipt and the paperwork to follow this - the FBI has copies of it all...but, they did NOT understand the sequence nor did I until I investigated it myself 2 yrs AFTER the FBI collected the evidence and documents on Duane Weber I had.

Jo, You don't seem to understand what Mrshutter told you several days ago.

Duane was trying to use fraud to get the second driver's license. The first office, for reasons you apparently don't know, refused to issue him ANY license. He then went to an office in another county and they did issue him a license in the Collins name. So Duane then had two driver's licenses in two different name and one of them was obtained by fraud.

After the law enforcement people visited you and you denied knowing where Duane was, they apparently waited a few minutes nearby and then followed you to Duane's location. Or to put it in plain English, they then knew that you had lied to them.

The issuance of driver's licenses is a Florida state function (in this instance) and has nothing to do with the FBI. Why do you find this so difficult to understand?

Robert99


mrshutter45

Oct 22, 2012, 7:56 PM
Post #37082 of 52696 (19096 views)
Shortcut
Re: [skyjack71] FAROUT [In reply to] Can't Post

I just don't see a Cooper link in all of the Collins mess, I had two DL'S both valid in the state of Florida, the 90's came around and they were
buckling down on people having multiple DL'S. so I can see where and why he was caught. my landlord had 3 back in the 80's

according to your post in the past you claim he got the license in 1988 (11/08/88) expires 11/13/92 sounds to me he was trying to get another
copy (Duplicate) of the false ID. either way it doesn't seem to have anything to do with Cooper!

The focus point should be why he was always wearing glasses, you said in the past he only used them for reading and yet he always
has them on in 99% of his pictures? these are things people pick up on, including the FBI I would guess. I'm not the first one to see this either.

I'm sorry Jo but you have a lot of people against your claims, including the FBI. I tried to make some sense out of all of this, but can't.

sorry


skyjack71

Oct 22, 2012, 7:57 PM
Post #37083 of 52696 (19095 views)
Shortcut
Re: [377] FAROUT [In reply to] Can't Post

In reply to:

Jo wrote that Duane had no ememies. Excuse me Jo. Are you forgetting about his 26 arrests?

FrownPerhaps I should CLARIFY that - Duane had NO enemies during OUR marriage and during the time I knew him he had only one person who spoke ill of him.
One former wife had nothing kind to say about him. If the things she told me were true then I can understand, but I did not meet him until 1977 AFTER he had divorced her.

In reply to:
I'd also like to see some proof that Duane left money in his victims purses to get them through a day. It would be quite remarkable were that proven to be true.

This is what I told by an individual very close to Duane Weber for many yrs. Since most of what I was told has turned out to be true then the FBI is the only one who has access to theft records that might verify this.

The only way to know this for fact would be to see the written reports made by the victims. Surely someone noticed he left money on the dresser in the room - so they would be able to buy food for their kids and themselves until arrangements could be made for access to other monies. IN OTHER words he alway left some money - he didn't leave with everything.

In reply to:
I represented a lot of accused robbers and thieves. Their family members at sentencing hearings would talk about how basically good and kind they were, but not one of those accused ever left money on the table so to speak. I'll bet Duane didn't either.

Well, you will loose that BET! Find some of his victims - especially those in resort areas with families on vacations. If the source was telling the truth then I expect you might find some kind or report regarding thefts where the victims claimed the robber did NOT take everything and left some cash. One does NOT miss a 20 laying on the dresser after a room is robbed and their wallet and credit cards GONE.

A 20 dollar bill in the 60's went a long long way.

I expect this was not something he did prior to the 60's as this would have become an aquired soft spot. Knowing Duane as I did and his compassion for xxxx - I believed the story.


(This post was edited by skyjack71 on Oct 22, 2012, 8:09 PM)


skyjack71

Oct 22, 2012, 8:22 PM
Post #37084 of 52696 (19073 views)
Shortcut
Re: [mrshutter45] FAROUT [In reply to] Can't Post

In reply to:

according to your post in the past you claim he got the license in 1988 (11/08/88) expires 11/13/92 sounds to me he was trying to get another
copy (Duplicate) of the false ID.


NO NO you don't get it. He stole receipts of something to prove residency and then he goes to the DMV claiming he is that John Collins on the receipts and lived at that address. He claims he lost his drivers license and needs to get a duplicate. The duplicate is issued with Duane's picture on it in 1990. The 1988 license belonged to the REAL John Collins.

So he left the ESCAMBIA DMV with a valid license with his picture on it. The original license was issued in 1988 and expired in 1992, but the one Duane had was the replacement of this supposedly lost drivers license.

I expect you are still NOT getting it! He went to great risks to get that damn drivers license with the name John C. Collins on it. When I contacted the REAL John Collins I got his wife who told me they had a break in - in 1990 but nothing seemed to have been taken - RIGHT because ALL Duane needed was utility reciepts with an address on it and perhaps a birth certificate or an old expired driver's license with John C. Collins on it and he had a SS with John C. Collins on it.

Yrs later I got hold of the man but he was a senior himself and did NOT remember this. The FBI never checked into this.


mrshutter45

Oct 22, 2012, 8:23 PM
Post #37085 of 52696 (19072 views)
Shortcut
Re: [skyjack71] FAROUT [In reply to] Can't Post

"If the source was telling the truth then I expect you might find some kind or report regarding thefts where the victims claimed the robber did NOT take everything and left some cash. One does NOT miss a 20 laying on the dresser after a room is robbed and their wallet and credit cards GONE."

the possibilities are endless Jo, criminals work different ways, they seek out different things, disruption could cause them to leave early, leaving valuables behind etc. etc......


"I expect you are still NOT getting it"
no I don't, but please explain how this ties him to being Cooper?


(This post was edited by mrshutter45 on Oct 22, 2012, 8:25 PM)


Farflung

Oct 22, 2012, 8:23 PM
Post #37086 of 52696 (19071 views)
Shortcut
Ancient History [In reply to] Can't Post

Skyjack71 says as if forgetting the previous comment:

Perhaps I should CLARIFY that - Duane had NO enemies during OUR marriage….”

Oh, so the Santa Rosa Deputies looking for him were friends? Well the court papers would say something like; the People vs Duane ‘Friend to everyone’ Weber then prosecute him like an enemy for creating a fraudulent ID.

Additionally Duane made friends in Colorado with (post 19552):

Everyone in the bar who was aware of Duane's sudden trip to the car and the bulge in his jacket and what the young man had said to me had their eyes peeled our way. In fact if someone had dropped a glass about that time there might have been panic (drama queen much?).

Duane just sat there and glared at the man who had acted inappropriately.”

This is how Duane makes friends? By glaring at young men with a huge bulge? Reads more like some sort of homo-erotic bodice buster, versus how to make friends and influence strangers. Nothing makes sense.


skyjack71

Oct 22, 2012, 8:44 PM
Post #37087 of 52696 (19054 views)
Shortcut
Re: [mrshutter45] FAROUT [In reply to] Can't Post

In reply to:
The focus point should be why he was always wearing glasses, you said in the past he only used them for reading and yet he always has them on in 99% of his pictures?

Duane wore glasses and I used to have all of his old glasses until I donated them. Far sighted is NOT near sighted and the old lenses were thick - not like the new stuff today. He did NOT seem to have a problem reading and didn't wear them to watch TV. Driving he needed them for depth perception. When I first met him he did NOT wear his glasses hardly at all...which I can demonstrate with family photos and Christmas photos and office photos.

I was able to do without my glasses to read and still do not use my glasses to read or do the computer, but I would NOT drive without them - but I am near sighted.

Duane functioned very well at home without his glasses and wore bifocals and trifocal later in life. Eyesight changes - discuss this with someone who knows more than I do...

At one time I presented one of Duane's scripts and was told that he would have had NO problems at home except to read and he probably had to hold reading material out from his body...this was correct. In a plane Cabin it would have been the same as being in the house and no glasses needed. Distance judgement comes when you are driving....be it farsighted or nearsighted.


mrshutter45

Oct 22, 2012, 8:50 PM
Post #37088 of 52696 (19050 views)
Shortcut
Re: [skyjack71] FAROUT [In reply to] Can't Post

In reply to:
In reply to:
The focus point should be why he was always wearing glasses, you said in the past he only used them for reading and yet he always has them on in 99% of his pictures?

Duane wore glasses and I used to have all of his old glasses until I donated them. Far sighted is NOT near sighted and the old lenses were thick - not like the new stuff today. He did NOT seem to have a problem reading and didn't wear them to watch TV. Driving he needed them for depth perception. When I first met him he did NOT wear his glasses hardly at all...which I can demonstrate with family photos and Christmas photos and office photos.

I was able to do without my glasses to read and still do not use my glasses to read or do the computer, but I would NOT drive without them - but I am near sighted.

Duane functioned very well at home without his glasses and wore bifocals and trifocal later in life. Eyesight changes - discuss this with someone who knows more than I do...

At one time I presented one of Duane's scripts and was told that he would have had NO problems at home except to read and he probably had to hold reading material out from his body...this was correct. In a plane Cabin it would have been the same as being in the house and no glasses needed. Distance judgement comes when you are driving....be it farsighted or nearsighted.

Farsightedness is greater difficulty seeing near objects than distant objects. Symptoms: Aching eyes; Blurred vision of close objects; Crossed eyes (strabismus) in children; Eye strain; Headache while reading.

"He did NOT seem to have a problem reading and didn't wear them to watch TV."

"I think you know you won't get answer to a sensible question while demands for documented answers to impossible questions are put forth.
It was said Weber only used those glasses for reading , how come he has them on in every pic ? That's not how users of reading glasses use them at all.
Ive asked if Duane even was a cigarette smoker which i could actually believe but i havnt seen him holding a cig in several informal pictures.
Smokers of the time period often had decent lighters , zippos , calibri's , dunhill ,ronson , being a thief he probably had a good one , where is it and why was it not mentioned or tested as it had to have been a rich source of touch dna.
We don't get answers to questions like that , just more impossible demands of the fbi.
I asked why was Mrs Weber quoted in 2000 as saying Duane very rarely talked of his past life yet here on DZ.com she has him a right chatterbox from day 1.
Lack of answers is often an answer in itself i suppose. "


(This post was edited by mrshutter45 on Oct 22, 2012, 9:02 PM)


skyjack71

Oct 22, 2012, 9:46 PM
Post #37089 of 52696 (19031 views)
Shortcut
Re: [mrshutter45] FAROUT [In reply to] Can't Post

In reply to:
"If the source was telling the truth then I expect you might find some kind or report regarding thefts where the victims claimed the robber did NOT take everything and left some cash. One does NOT miss a 20 laying on the dresser after a room is robbed and their wallet and credit cards GONE."

the possibilities are endless Jo, criminals work different ways, they seek out different things, disruption could cause them to leave early, leaving valuables behind etc. etc......


"I expect you are still NOT getting it"
no I don't, but please explain how this ties him to being Cooper?

DID I say it tied him to being Cooper? No, I was just replying to 377's post.

As for the robbery in 1990. I can't remember if I asked the woman if they filed a report. I was more interested in how my husband got a drivers license using her husband's name and their address...but, with Duane's picture on it. At that time I didn't read the receipt showing the date and the license being a duplicate (obviously the FBI didn't either). Since the FBI made copies of the stuff in the wallet - one would assume they also noted it. I just assumed it was a receipt, but didn't examine the dates as the FBI probably didn't either.

Since Nothing of value was taken - they may not have made a report. I don't remember. Whatever she told me I am sure I told to Himmelsbach and expected him to share it with the FBI - of course, he didn't, but I thought the sun rose and set with with Mr. H at that time.

I have answered these question before at one time or another with other posters.


georger

Oct 22, 2012, 9:56 PM
Post #37090 of 52696 (19027 views)
Shortcut
Re: [skyjack71] FAROUT [In reply to] Can't Post

 
DID I say it tied him to being Cooper?
Jo was Duane diabetic?

What meds was he on when you married him?

Any persistence low grade problems: muscle aches,
thirsty, headaches, sore throat, cough, sweating,
foot problems, ... anything like that?

Also, he doesnt appear to have worn glasses when
young - do you know?


(This post was edited by georger on Oct 22, 2012, 9:59 PM)


skyjack71

Oct 22, 2012, 10:10 PM
Post #37091 of 52696 (19022 views)
Shortcut
Re: [mrshutter45] FAROUT [In reply to] Can't Post

 
What do you NOT understand by that statement. At home is the same as in the cabin of a plane?

WHAT do you not understand - why don't you make a trip and view the family albums!

I don't recall you asking if Duane was even a smoker. Of course he was - but, he was never a heavy smoker. Neither of smoked much unless we were out. I do not have but one picture of myself in all of these yrs smoking. That is NOT unusual at all.

Yes, Duane had lighters!
I even gave him a sterling silver zippo with his initials on it which I have. That one was hardly used and his old ones went out with the goodwill or trash after he died. Remember I did NOT know who DAN COOPER was until 1 yr and 2 month after he died.

When the FBI contacted me for DNA was in 2003 - and I had remarried - just how much stuff do you think I could keep in a suitcase in the attic?

What I gave them were things I gave him that last Christmas - do not even know if he tried them on. Plus some of it tried on at a garage sale.

Duane DID not talk about his past - what I know about his past was in 3rd person - WHAT do you not understand about that? The rest I have learned thru research and making lots of expensive phone calls over the last 18 yrs and what Doug was able to find. The FBI has NOT been of any help at all. What Carr posted in this thread was erroneous and I had more than he did. He never shared the file with me. THE FBI has been very very CLOSED mouth about Weber.


Duane was never a chatter box.
You put up stom shutters - you are not an investigator or FBI.
There is NO need in my continueing to answer your ridiculous postings and the horrible way you twist and turn things. You do not even know how to separate what I say from what others have said.

Right now I have MORE important things to do and this is a distraction. I finally have the means to contact individuals others have negotiated with on my behalf in the past...NO one connected to the thread. The door to the past of Duane L. Weber.

Expect I will screw it up, but I have to have some answers and if I have to beg - I will. How I am going to afford to do what I will need to have done I do not know, but where there is a will there is a way.


(This post was edited by skyjack71 on Oct 22, 2012, 10:20 PM)


RobertMBlevins

Oct 22, 2012, 11:00 PM
Post #37092 of 52696 (19011 views)
Shortcut
Re: [skyjack71] FAROUT [In reply to] Can't Post

The obvious solution to Duane's Eye Question:

Pick one of his most recent optometrists and get his prescription. I know it's been 17 years, but it's possible one or two of them are still in business. They keep records.

This would be Jo's job, of course. Could probably get this info on a phone call.


MeyerLouie

Oct 22, 2012, 11:48 PM
Post #37093 of 52696 (19005 views)
Shortcut
Re: [georger] Boeing Connections [In reply to] Can't Post

As for your personal attack (now two years old,
Tom addressed that himself to you, right here on
Dropzone. Sorry you missed (or dismissed) it. So
address it with Tom again, ... or this time give Tom
a break and discuss it with your proctologist instead,
since you obviously have an inflammatory disorder
of the intestine.
-----------------------------------------------------------
What's all this talk about proctology lately? You know, Blevins, proctology is the only profession where you start out at the bottom and stay there. When your proctologist checks your prostate, is he the one who goes 'ahhh'?


skyjack71

Oct 23, 2012, 12:17 AM
Post #37094 of 52696 (19003 views)
Shortcut
Re: [georger] FAROUT [In reply to] Can't Post

In reply to:
DID I say it tied him to being Cooper?

Jo was Duane diabetic?

What meds was he on when you married him?

Any persistence low grade problems: muscle aches,
thirsty, headaches, sore throat, cough, sweating,
foot problems, ... anything like that?

Also, he doesnt appear to have worn glasses when
young - do you know?

Duane was NOT diabetic and the only thing he took was a mild blood pressure med. I don't remember the name right now. It was a very common drug and then he had to take another drug commonly adminstered with the blood pressure pills.

He was very normal outside of the kidney problem and I made sure he got no salt and during the last few yrs he stopped drinking. He was very displined in his diet restrictions those last 5 yrs.

Sore throats and sweats or cough - NONE.

Headaches - he never complained about any.

Foot problems - none.

He did on occassion take some qout medications but, not on a regular basis. Gout I alway thought was foot or toe, but I take qout medication occassionally...it is given now for other joint pains. Old medication been around for ages.

His feet did not swell and he did not limp. Sure he had one hip lower than the other, but it was not noticeable - I was the one who tailored his pants. Of course he had no ASS at all and that just exaggerated the hip. The picture I have of him on the beach in 1969 (I think) he looks pretty damn good. I believe I have posted that one.

He did NOT wear glasses when he was young. The first picture I saw of him with glasses was 1968 per the date on the pic and she told me it was when he was released from Jefferson. Perhaps he started wearing glasses in Jefferson, but I don't know. There was a pic the FBI used showing him wearing glasses, but they never gave a source or a date for that picture.

Back when we discussed the glasses a few yrs ago - I had 2 of his old scripts, but I doubt I even know where to look anymore. Those scripts would have been during his last yrs.


(This post was edited by skyjack71 on Oct 23, 2012, 12:26 AM)


georger

Oct 23, 2012, 12:31 AM
Post #37095 of 52696 (18998 views)
Shortcut
Re: [skyjack71] FAROUT [In reply to] Can't Post

 the only thing he took was a mild blood pressure med. I don't remember the name right now. It was a very common drug and then he had to take another drug commonly adminstered with the blood pressure pills.

.
Lisinopril & Metformin ?


RobertMBlevins

Oct 23, 2012, 12:46 AM
Post #37096 of 52696 (18995 views)
Shortcut
Re: [MeyerLouie] Boeing Connections [In reply to] Can't Post

In reply to:
As for your personal attack (now two years old,
Tom addressed that himself to you, right here on
Dropzone. Sorry you missed (or dismissed) it. So
address it with Tom again, ... or this time give Tom
a break and discuss it with your proctologist instead,
since you obviously have an inflammatory disorder
of the intestine.
-----------------------------------------------------------
What's all this talk about proctology lately? You know, Blevins, proctology is the only profession where you start out at the bottom and stay there. When your proctologist checks your prostate, is he the one who goes 'ahhh'?

Georger whines a lot about 'personal attack,' yet his every post about yours truly always includes an insult or two. I know he whined to Kaye and that Kaye felt obligated to post a modest defense on DZ.

However, I also have Kaye's original email where he talks about WHY Georger was distanced from the Citizen Sleuths. With Gmail, it really IS true: You never have to delete anything to save space unless you want to. So I keep every message except the spam. If Kaye comes onto this thread and gives me permission, I will publish his original email comments on Georger. And some of those comments are not necessarily flattering.

It's not my wish to discredit Georger. I think he has been, and continues to be, a positive contributor to this thread. But if most of his posts are aimed simply at 'baiting and trapping' people, or flippant insulting comments, then I will definitely pull the covers away and expose that fact. I think those facts already exist.

In the interest of peace and not alienating people, or trashing real research into the Cooper case, I believe in a happy middle ground. So should Georger.

Check-in time at the Reality Hotel. Top floor, penthouse suite.


(This post was edited by RobertMBlevins on Oct 23, 2012, 12:51 AM)


skyjack71

Oct 23, 2012, 1:10 AM
Post #37097 of 52696 (18990 views)
Shortcut
Re: [georger] FAROUT [In reply to] Can't Post

In reply to:
the only thing he took was a mild blood pressure med. I don't remember the name right now. It was a very common drug and then he had to take another drug commonly adminstered with the blood pressure pills.

.

Lisinopril & Metformin ?
No older than that - seems like it started with an A

I went looking a moment ago to on case thought maybe I had some glasses, but if I did I would have given them to the FBI because they would have been a great source of DNA. Pretty sure I donated them before I found out who Dan Cooper was.

I did find something in this bag I had forgot about. Been a long long time since I went back that far. These were things in his jewelry case - but no all of them.

The knifes and Pyramid pen, some pearl cufflinks and tie tac (no not like Cooper's). One item I never knew what it was and have never asked anyone.

A pin the size of tha nickel with a wreath on both sides going up and the do NOT meet as the top and there is a Vshape on the top as a result of the wreath not meeting. 33 in bold blue letters.
They are blazoned over the letter M and beneath that is the date 1946.

Also in this bag is another item I do no have a clue about. It is a dressy silver case (looks more like something a woman would carry). Shaped like a lighter but empty (like perhaps a match keeper). On the outside is a monument large sweeping base and goes up like a tower. Gets narrow and then another segment goes up and gets narrow with windows or arches in it. The top of the tower appears to have something resembling a torch with a lookout. Don't have a clue. Perhaps a match keeper with striker.

Geeze, what I find when I dig into some of this stuff - not was I was looking for but interesting enough to describe.

There was a man by the name of Phil Harris who was younger than Duane and Duane asked about his father who lived in the Spokane area. The father would have been Duane' age. The Phill Harris I am speaking of was maybe 42 and had moved back to WA....There is a letter he wrote to Duane in the file.

Oh, well too late to look for scripts and God Forbid where they are in all of this crap. The FBI may have taken them.

Just insignificat stuff!


mrshutter45

Oct 23, 2012, 3:05 AM
Post #37098 of 52696 (18972 views)
Shortcut
Re: [skyjack71] FAROUT [In reply to] Can't Post

once again you are sounding just like Knoss....

"Duane was never a chatter box.
You put up stom shutters - you are not an investigator or FBI.
There is NO need in my continueing to answer your ridiculous postings and the horrible way you twist and turn things. You do not even know how to separate what I say from what others have said."

nobody here is a "investigator" that includes you!! I simply pointed out what the definition of Duane's vision was and put a quote up from post 25510 Robert99 pointed out. you get very defensive once confronted just like Knoss. if I was the FBI, you would still be saying the samething!!

bottom line is this. Duane had problems.
you admit he was farsighted which would be a problem seeing things up close without his glasses, you have admitted they were thick.

we all know Duane had multiple name changes that are typical with his "profession" and not relevant to the case.

Duane's early pictures resemble the sketches but not the later photo's of him around Cooper's age. (ears stick out, noticeable age lines,
hair style is different.

you claim his brother was close with Boeing but fail to check the validation to this claim, to have drawings of a plane in production is
pretty dam close and personal with a company!

17 years Jo, think about that, that is a very long time to check into someone's background without any real progress.

you have chosen to call my postings "ridiculous" but other than yourself I don't see anyone else backing that claim, however
if one was to reverse the role, lot's of people have said yours are "ridiculous" I think in the future you should not ask anyone to look into your claims!

advise from one non investigator to another!


(This post was edited by mrshutter45 on Oct 23, 2012, 3:26 AM)


Farflung

Oct 23, 2012, 8:56 AM
Post #37099 of 52696 (18946 views)
Shortcut
Re: [mrshutter45] FAROUT [In reply to] Can't Post

Mrshutter45 informs:

nobody here is a "investigator" that includes you!!”

That’s currently true. Why people throw around statements which apply to them is astonishing, and displays just what a detached and illogical world they must live in.

But the thread DID have an investigator at one point. He was college educated, articulate, open with information, studied in one of the finest academies on the planet and participated in recurring training. This of course being Ckret, aka Special Agent Larry Carr. Now that’s about at investigate-y and qualified as one could get. So the thread was fortunate to have access to his knowledge base, insights and access to DB Cooper evidence. But one un-educated Troglodyte, with a massive sense of self importance had to make that all go away in a childish tantrum, because this investigator didn’t agree with everything she said.

That is why in a battle of wills versus wits, the wills always win. Wills don’t care about dignity and therefore can’t be embarrassed. Like constantly asking about some ridiculous electric men’s underwear, where a person with a degree in electrical engineering says ‘No way’. Well, you see the electrical engineer didn’t explain it in a way which could be understood, so she kept asking people, all the while, pushing the DOWN button of the elevator of knowledge.

Is she an expert in river dredging? She made numerous statements about dredge operations on the Columbia which were later proven to be utter basura. Why would someone engage in such an activity which is so easily checked, with one of the thousands and thousands of people who actually have training in and make a living from such an industry? The same is done in regard to aviation. There have been some whoppers published on this thread. But the thread, has a common…. thread associated with these absurd comments... they are from the same brain trust of blissful disregard of the facts. The weird part is that they all appear to feel as if they have successfully deceived everyone else.


skyjack71

Oct 23, 2012, 2:35 PM
Post #37100 of 52696 (18919 views)
Shortcut
Re: [mrshutter45] FAROUT [In reply to] Can't Post

 


In reply to:
Duane's early pictures resemble the sketches but not the later photo's of him around Cooper's age. (ears stick out, noticeable age lines, hair style is different.

NOT what the Photo ID program used in the Casinos in 2000 told someone acting on my behalf.

In reply to:
you claim his brother was close with Boeing but fail to check the validation to this claim, to have drawings of a plane in production is pretty dam close and personal with a company!

How am I supposed to check this out without his SS number or his personal information which has been withheld from me for yrs and who would I have check it out? Your CALL. If you think SMARTY PANTS you can do better I will provide you with his last address and birthdate and date of death - that is ALL I have.

The birthdate would be on the census report and the old address I have. The death can be checked out since he died after 2004 when I was out there to see him. If you think you can obtain his employment records and status with that information HAVE AT IT. The only surviving relative will NOT provide me with one IOTA. The FBI should have been able to do this, but they didn't do so.


First page Previous page 1 ... 1480 1481 1482 1483 1484 1485 1486 1487 1488 ... 2108 Next page Last page  View All

Forums : Skydiving : Skydiving History & Trivia

 


Search for (options)