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mrshutter45

Oct 21, 2012, 9:08 PM
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"Duane Weber was FAR SIGHTED!
Do you know what that means? "

yeas I do, this means he would have problem to a certain extent inside a plane (close quarters) with having to concentrate on what he was doing.

I could be wrong but in several of those pics, those glasses look mighty thick.

"what do you think the artist tried to show in the composite? "
I only see the lines from the nose downward to the outer mouth on the composite, Duane's were further out on his cheeks.

I would try to get a hold of Florence Schaffner and see what she thinks of Duane? if she hasn't already seen pics of him, even Florence
has changed Coopers appearance, hair style is totally different!

"fingerprints were negative (all 26 prints) " was referring to 26 sets of prints.....sorry.


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RobertMBlevins

Oct 21, 2012, 9:11 PM
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Do I speak for anyone else around here when I say this:

I would like to see the full names of some of the witnesses regarding The Life of Duane.

People come down on me pretty hard sometimes, and as long as they don't get too personal about it, I don't have a problem. But at least I had guts enough to give names, dates, exact details as much as possible...i.e. YOU COULD CHECK SOME OF THIS STUFF FOR YOURSELF IF YOU WISHED. The only thing I ever held back on people was the last name of Bernie Geestman's sister. And we all know that could easily be discovered by any decent researcher.

No more dodging and weaving, no more smoke and mirrors. If you got something, present it.

It doesn't matter what dates Duane was in the Army or Navy. It doesn't matter that he was arrested a bunch of times and was in jail. It doesn't even matter whether he knew how to use a parachute beyond reading something somewhere about pulling a ripcord.

What matters most is his whereabouts on a certain day in November, 1971. Until you can answer that question, there is nothing pointing him to the hijacking beyond a single-witness deathbed statement.

And people say I'm full of it sometimes...geez.


skyjack71

Oct 21, 2012, 9:17 PM
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"It was LOCAL FBI knew very little about Cooper nor did they question why Duane obtained and how he obtained a legal Florida Drivers License under John C. Collins..."

Back in the day, Forida as well as other states I'm sure didn't require picture ID for a drivers License, Birth certificate or S.S. card was enough, these could easily be changed
and the system was not up to date enough to catch these things. (100% Legal)

Excuse me perhaps we are all speaking a DIFFERENT Language here.

It was 1990 when Duane obtain a drivers license under John Collins (forget the prior use of that name).

Duane had a FL drivers license issued to Duane L. Weber and yet he goes to the same office and requests a drivers license under another name. That was crazy. They refuse and he drives to the next county and gets the license - NOTE 1990! I have the damn receipt of the license and the license itself - bought the day before they went to arrest him at the shop for trying to obtain a license under that name in Santa Rosa on the same day he obtained the one in Escambia.

THIS is just too far OUT! I know I do not make myself clear, but I try. I do better on the phone if anyone needs clarification of what I am trying to say.


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georger

Oct 21, 2012, 9:24 PM
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In reply to:
In reply to:
Tommy Gunn
Tony Wong
Ray Griffin
Ex-wife

4

Stella
Wolfgang
Four Eyes
Cheknee Canoe
Tonto!
Mrs. Quan
Hsaing Chan
Tommy Tooth
Betty Butt
Big Byrd
Rothstein
Gilbert the Golash
Terry 'Dog' Smith
Appendectomy
Marshall Stern
Lose Change
Vera
Minny
Molly
Barbara Grate
RobertMBlevins
Jane Fondu
Madolyn Monroe
Clara Arrow
Gadzooks Whale
Kollar Bone
Boner Smiley
Tipsy Toote
Tina Marvel
Betty Boop
Harry Schlam
Ralph Boeing
Jimmy G. History
En Surance
For Rum
Edith Message
.
.
.

How much time did you spend thinking up all the names for that senseless list? Just wondering. And you expect people to take you seriously as someone who is 'investigating the DB Cooper case,' aka 'ALMOST' a member of the Citizen Sleuths Team?

Reality Check. You knew that was coming, right? The last time I brought up the Sleuths, you went off whining to Tom Kaye. Your credibility=ZERO.
No wonder they decided not to include you. Not a real surprise, you think?

If that doesn't get through to you, maybe you should just do THIS. Crazy

Failing that, there's not much else to say..Shocked

If I could play like Rick Nielsen, I'd die a happy man.
Oh it took about 15+ seconds - are you jealous?

As for your personal attack (now two years old,
Tom addressed that himself to you, right here on
Dropzone. Sorry you missed (or dismissed) it. So
address it with Tom again, ... or this time give Tom
a break and discuss it with your proctologist instead,
since you obviously have an inflammatory disorder
of the intestine.

As for the names I posted re- Jo's case, Jo has
brought forth numerous names in relation to her
case over the years. Surely you are awareof that and
the role they play - or maybe you missed that too.
Jo is a name inventor and name dropper. (Just as
you are a concept inventor and 'allegation dropper'.

Ive always thought there is a relationship between
you and Jo. A pattern of similarity. I am sure I'm
not the only one who thinks (or sees) that. So much
for your use of the concept: credibility!

Laugh


georger

Oct 21, 2012, 9:28 PM
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Do I speak for anyone else around here when I say this:

I would like to see the full names of some of the witnesses regarding The Life of Duane.

And people say I'm full of it sometimes...geez.

And you just came down on me for posting FAKE NAMES! ???

wOAAAAAH DO I SENSE hypo-cracy ?

Can you fit names into a canoe without tipping over!?

Lets start with "Geestman" !

And, "That Woman" - that's a name. (as you use it)

Laugh


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skyjack71

Oct 21, 2012, 9:42 PM
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How do you know Duane never robbed a gas station or convenience store or was a ladies man?

Duane's MO was robbing women he lured with alcohol of their valuables after he slept with them. Perhaps the FBI told me - you THINK! That was also told to me by the Brother and to some extent the FBI. He also stole wallets from purses in bars after the woman had a little too much to drink.

Source to remain anonymous:

He also robbed hotel and motel rooms along the beach - by accessing the keys tourist put under their beach bags or pool towels. He never committed an armed robbery, but guns were stolen in one incident.

He also worked for an insurance company collecting premiums and skimmed money from them.
That TAKES a little planning on the agent's part. He worked for Pyramid Life in Ks as John Collins. An Italian restaurant owner had helped him get the job and was very disappointed in him. .

None of Duane's crimes involved the use of a gun and none that I have been told about involved violence.

According to one source - when he robbed a hotel room he always left enough cash to get them thru one day. I thought that was weird..,..but, it was exactly what I would have expected. He was a thief, but he had a heart.


Farflung

Oct 21, 2012, 9:49 PM
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The only thing RobertMBlevins and Skyjack71 have in common is responding to questions with anger and dismissal, rather than a sense of gratitude. They also share having absolutely no sources or references available when data is requested. Like prison jump schools, work records for the week of the crime, pictures of toupees or pictures of a ‘unique’ left handed, tie clasp. Oh, and they both engage in shooting down other suspects in some weird and freaky belief that their suspect will become top dog. They both believe that in order to participate on this thread someone must have a suspect to present for some goof ball reason, they can’t define, but believe it makes them somehow superior. They both have information which must be kept secret from the thread because members aren’t trustworthy, but they don’t go away. They are both experts in Columbia River dredging in spite of not knowing which way it flows or having any education on the subject, down to and including drawing a picture of ‘Bambi’ from a matchbook advertisement. They both are just looking for the truth but can’t reconcile differences between each other, thus making such a statement nothing but faux sincerity. They engage in repetitive, mantra-like diction which is published and republished with predictable regularity, which both deny. They both consider the FBI incompetent and misunderstood by participants of the thread, rather than the shorter solution. They both declare how they have open minds, but fail to faintly acknowledge anyone as the most remote of suspect and favor thermo-nuclear destruction of the suggestion. So as you can see they have nothing in common and their techniques like; “Wanting to discuss ‘other suspects’” comes across as genuine, honest and sincere.

You see, they are completely different.


RobertMBlevins

Oct 21, 2012, 10:18 PM
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The only thing RobertMBlevins and Skyjack71 have in common is responding to questions with anger and dismissal, rather than a sense of gratitude. They also share having absolutely no sources or references available when data is requested. Like prison jump schools, work records for the week of the crime, pictures of toupees or pictures of a ‘unique’ left handed, tie clasp. Oh, and they both engage in shooting down other suspects in some weird and freaky belief that their suspect will become top dog. They both believe that in order to participate on this thread someone must have a suspect to present for some goof ball reason, they can’t define, but believe it makes them somehow superior. They both have information which must be kept secret from the thread because members aren’t trustworthy, but they don’t go away. They are both experts in Columbia River dredging in spite of not knowing which way it flows or having any education on the subject, down to and including drawing a picture of ‘Bambi’ from a matchbook advertisement. They both are just looking for the truth but can’t reconcile differences between each other, thus making such a statement nothing but faux sincerity. They engage in repetitive, mantra-like diction which is published and republished with predictable regularity, which both deny. They both consider the FBI incompetent and misunderstood by participants of the thread, rather than the shorter solution. They both declare how they have open minds, but fail to faintly acknowledge anyone as the most remote of suspect and favor thermo-nuclear destruction of the suggestion. So as you can see they have nothing in common and their techniques like; “Wanting to discuss ‘other suspects’” comes across as genuine, honest and sincere.

You see, they are completely different.

Yes, we are. There is a substantial difference between being open about what you have in the way of evidence...enabling others to go out on their own and check it...and just saying something is true.

BIG difference. It presents a record that can be checked.

I've answered questions aplenty around this village. But sometimes people cherry-pick, or go personal, or they don't really listen to what is being said. So sometimes I blow people off when they have no manners. Anyone who is really investigating the case understands that sometimes it's better to ask questions privately, rather than on the internet...

Wait...problem for you. That would mean identifying yourself. I forgot that part.

I'm not here to sell some book, or to try the case in public. The REAL reason I'm here is to help discover the answer. You know what? It probably ISN'T Christiansen. The simple odds are against it, considering the number of people who could have done it.

I'm also not the type to take time out of my busy day to research this point or that for a thread containing a lot of impolite folks (not you, Farflung) and then post up those things publicly. Look who hangs out here besides me? Or even you? Some of them do not have both oars in the water.

I only deal seriously with people I KNOW. I never liked one-way streets. It's kind of like my caller ID. If I don't recognize the name, I usually ignore the call and they can leave a message.


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georger

Oct 21, 2012, 10:22 PM
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In reply to:
The only thing RobertMBlevins and Skyjack71 have in common is responding to questions with anger and dismissal, rather than a sense of gratitude. They also share having absolutely no sources or references available when data is requested. Like prison jump schools, work records for the week of the crime, pictures of toupees or pictures of a ‘unique’ left handed, tie clasp. Oh, and they both engage in shooting down other suspects in some weird and freaky belief that their suspect will become top dog. They both believe that in order to participate on this thread someone must have a suspect to present for some goof ball reason, they can’t define, but believe it makes them somehow superior. They both have information which must be kept secret from the thread because members aren’t trustworthy, but they don’t go away. They are both experts in Columbia River dredging in spite of not knowing which way it flows or having any education on the subject, down to and including drawing a picture of ‘Bambi’ from a matchbook advertisement. They both are just looking for the truth but can’t reconcile differences between each other, thus making such a statement nothing but faux sincerity. They engage in repetitive, mantra-like diction which is published and republished with predictable regularity, which both deny. They both consider the FBI incompetent and misunderstood by participants of the thread, rather than the shorter solution. They both declare how they have open minds, but fail to faintly acknowledge anyone as the most remote of suspect and favor thermo-nuclear destruction of the suggestion. So as you can see they have nothing in common and their techniques like; “Wanting to discuss ‘other suspects’” comes across as genuine, honest and sincere.

You see, they are completely different.

Priceless, again.

Hell will freeze over if they just expell enough
vapour and heat!

Laugh


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georger

Oct 21, 2012, 10:26 PM
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In reply to:
In reply to:
The only thing RobertMBlevins and Skyjack71 have in common is responding to questions with anger and dismissal, rather than a sense of gratitude. They also share having absolutely no sources or references available when data is requested. Like prison jump schools, work records for the week of the crime, pictures of toupees or pictures of a ‘unique’ left handed, tie clasp. Oh, and they both engage in shooting down other suspects in some weird and freaky belief that their suspect will become top dog. They both believe that in order to participate on this thread someone must have a suspect to present for some goof ball reason, they can’t define, but believe it makes them somehow superior. They both have information which must be kept secret from the thread because members aren’t trustworthy, but they don’t go away. They are both experts in Columbia River dredging in spite of not knowing which way it flows or having any education on the subject, down to and including drawing a picture of ‘Bambi’ from a matchbook advertisement. They both are just looking for the truth but can’t reconcile differences between each other, thus making such a statement nothing but faux sincerity. They engage in repetitive, mantra-like diction which is published and republished with predictable regularity, which both deny. They both consider the FBI incompetent and misunderstood by participants of the thread, rather than the shorter solution. They both declare how they have open minds, but fail to faintly acknowledge anyone as the most remote of suspect and favor thermo-nuclear destruction of the suggestion. So as you can see they have nothing in common and their techniques like; “Wanting to discuss ‘other suspects’” comes across as genuine, honest and sincere.

You see, they are completely different.

Yes, we are. There is a substantial difference between being open about what you have in the way of evidence...enabling others to go out on their own and check it...and just saying something is true.

BIG difference.

So doctor, heel thyself of no credibility!

Or see a proctologist, pronto. Medicare could deny
you for intentional procrastination -


(This post was edited by georger on Oct 21, 2012, 10:27 PM)


RobertMBlevins

Oct 21, 2012, 11:00 PM
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If you're going to quote me, do it right. Your weird 'proctologist' comments only prove what I've said all along:

Quote:
'There is a substantial difference between being open about what you have in the way of evidence...enabling others to go out on their own and check it...and just saying something is true.

BIG difference. It presents a record that can be checked.

I've answered questions aplenty around this village. But sometimes people cherry-pick, or go personal, or they don't really listen to what is being said. So sometimes I blow people off when they have no manners. Anyone who is really investigating the case understands that sometimes it's better to ask questions privately, rather than on the internet...

Wait...problem for you. That would mean identifying yourself. I forgot that part.

I'm not here to sell some book, or to try the case in public. The REAL reason I'm here is to help discover the answer. You know what? It probably ISN'T Christiansen. The simple odds are against it, considering the number of people who could have done it.

I'm also not the type to take time out of my busy day to research this point or that for a thread containing a lot of impolite folks (not you, Farflung) and then post up those things publicly. Look who hangs out here besides me? Or even you? Some of them do not have both oars in the water.

I only deal seriously with people I KNOW. I never liked one-way streets. It's kind of like my caller ID. If I don't recognize the name, I usually ignore the call and they can leave a message...'


(This post was edited by RobertMBlevins on Oct 21, 2012, 11:00 PM)


skyjack71

Oct 21, 2012, 11:10 PM
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In reply to:

Yes, we are. There is a substantial difference between being open about what you have in the way of evidence...enabling others to go out on their own and check it...and just saying something is true.

BIG difference. It presents a record that can be checked.

I've answered questions aplenty around this village. But sometimes people cherry-pick, or go personal, or they don't really listen to what is being said. So sometimes I blow people off when they have no manners. Anyone who is really investigating the case understands that sometimes it's better to ask questions privately, rather than on the internet...

Wait...problem for you. That would mean identifying yourself. I forgot that part.

I'm not here to sell some book, or to try the case in public. The REAL reason I'm here is to help discover the answer. You know what? It probably ISN'T Christiansen. The simple odds are against it, considering the number of people who could have done it.

I'm also not the type to take time out of my busy day to research this point or that for a thread containing a lot of impolite folks (not you, Farflung) and then post up those things publicly. Look who hangs out here besides me? Or even you? Some of them do not have both oars in the water.

I only deal seriously with people I KNOW. I never liked one-way streets. It's kind of like my caller ID. If I don't recognize the name, I usually ignore the call and they can leave a message.



SmileCrazySlyUnimpressedSeems like we both share a lot of frustrations with the thread now - all they do is pick on you or me. I do my share of picking on you because I am biased to my own suspect. BUT, what is going on in the thread right now with some of the guys - is just too much.

I can't reveal everything I know, but as of late I have told lots of things I never put in the open before, but NOT to the extent someone could sue me.

With the world the way it is - one has to watch what they say or how they say it.

Recently we have some individuals who for some reason are claiming this or that - regarding a suspect and what they are saying just is NOT reasonable. If they had been following the suspect or have read all of the post or were knowledgeable regarding the things they state - that would be one thing.

Example - glasses appearing to thick and that being farsighted would have hindered Cooper. That is just purely ignoring certain things and throwing out trivia that is NOT science.

Glasses used to be thick and far sighted glasses caused the eyes to look larger, but farsighted individuals usually do NOT have the problems near-sighted ones do. As for a far-sighted person not being able to function in an airplane cabin - these guy need to go actually talk to the old Optometrist from the 70's to 80's. They need to be aware of the thickness of the glasses of yesterday. Hell, if they could see an OLD pair of my glasses from 1980 - these guys would say I was blind. A lot has changed in the world of GLASSES in the last 30 yrs.

That is just one example of what I am experiencing. You get one smart ass popping off and then suddenly there is a chorus in the background.

Spooks and naysayer and whatever they are called in the world of the web. This is no longer a thread exploring the possiblities of suspects or the Cooper case - it is all about these guys who want to toot abilities to disrupt and corrupt a thread...with NO knowledge of what they speak of.

I thought Robt99 was a pretty smart guy until recently - now he is showing us exactly what he is made of.

Well, I am not a straw-woman and I have my convictions and I know what I know and until someone with some REAL know how and inside knowledge presents something solid they can talk to themselves - expect that has been their goal for sometime now.

I am surprised Quade would allow the badgering that has been rampant lately. Mrsshutter might be an OK guy but he knows nothing about optometry or lenses. He doesn't understand the angles of photos or the concept of composites.

Wait until the Facial ID makes it statement on national TV. Also some of the posters are showing me what they are for real. Everyone knows the composite done for a TV program was NEVER approved by the crew - one I will call the Mayfield composite. Florence was in complete disagreement with the composite that they made and used (the one for the TV program) not the official composites.

It is time for me to do what some parties have been wanting me to do for a long long time. I like my privacy, but what has to happen is LONG over Due. Just exactly how I am going to do this I do NOT know - one guy has been working on this for a long time - and I have been balking - so NOW - I am going to give him a free REIN....and I am going to do the UNSPEAKABLE.

Yea, it is UNSPEAKABLE and something NO one thought I would ever do - I didn't think I would. Now I am tired of waging this battle and someone else will do it for me.

Am I walking away - definitely not after all I am NOT a STAW woman, but I am not made of steel.


Robert99

Oct 21, 2012, 11:27 PM
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How do you know Duane never robbed a gas station or convenience store or was a ladies man?

Duane's MO was robbing women he lured with alcohol of their valuables after he slept with them. Perhaps the FBI told me - you THINK! That was also told to me by the Brother and to some extent the FBI. He also stole wallets from purses in bars after the woman had a little too much to drink.

Source to remain anonymous:

He also robbed hotel and motel rooms along the beach - by accessing the keys tourist put under their beach bags or pool towels. He never committed an armed robbery, but guns were stolen in one incident.

He also worked for an insurance company collecting premiums and skimmed money from them.
That TAKES a little planning on the agent's part. He worked for Pyramid Life in Ks as John Collins. An Italian restaurant owner had helped him get the job and was very disappointed in him. .

None of Duane's crimes involved the use of a gun and none that I have been told about involved violence.

According to one source - when he robbed a hotel room he always left enough cash to get them thru one day. I thought that was weird..,..but, it was exactly what I would have expected. He was a thief, but he had a heart.

Jo, What is the source of your claims that Duane never used a gun or violence in a robbery?

So Duane was a thief with a heart of gold? After sleeping with his victims, he robbed them? I don't think he has any qualifications to claim "a heart of gold".

I have heard the term "a hooker with a heart of gold". If there is such a person, I guess they operate on a higher moral level than Duane did.

Robert99


skyjack71

Oct 21, 2012, 11:35 PM
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goof ball

FAR FLUNG - those 2 words of your post are the only words that need repeated from your post.

LaughYou are the biggest GOOF BALL on the thread bar none. Definitely you do NOT need to be encourage to continue to barrage the world with your nonsense....and naysayer attitude!


Robert99

Oct 21, 2012, 11:43 PM
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I thought Robt99 was a pretty smart guy until recently - now he is showing us exactly what he is made of.

Jo, The above is revisionist history. You have been calling me a "troll living under a bridge" and a "moron" for several years. In fact just check your posts within the last couple of weeks.Angelic

Robert99


georger

Oct 22, 2012, 12:08 AM
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I thought Robt99 was a pretty smart guy until recently - now he is showing us exactly what he is made of.

Jo, The above is revisionist history. You have been calling me a "troll living under a bridge" and a "moron" for several years. In fact just check your posts within the last couple of weeks.Angelic

Robert99

Everyone who has ever tried learned long ago (15
years ago!) that trying to reason or debate with Jo
is like ... impossible. Same with Blevins. They have
an agenda. Its as simple as that and nothing will
penetrate it -

That they are still free walking among us to continue
their litany says something - not sure what. But its a
common occurrence in cults.


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skyjack71

Oct 22, 2012, 12:25 AM
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How do you know Duane never robbed a gas station or convenience store or was a ladies man?

Duane's MO was robbing women he lured with alcohol of their valuables after he slept with them. Perhaps the FBI told me - you THINK! That was also told to me by the Brother and to some extent the FBI. He also stole wallets from purses in bars after the woman had a little too much to drink.

Source to remain anonymous:

He also robbed hotel and motel rooms along the beach - by accessing the keys tourist put under their beach bags or pool towels. He never committed an armed robbery, but guns were stolen in one incident.

He also worked for an insurance company collecting premiums and skimmed money from them.
That TAKES a little planning on the agent's part. He worked for Pyramid Life in Ks as John Collins. An Italian restaurant owner had helped him get the job and was very disappointed in him. .

None of Duane's crimes involved the use of a gun and none that I have been told about involved violence.

According to one source - when he robbed a hotel room he always left enough cash to get them thru one day. I thought that was weird..,..but, it was exactly what I would have expected. He was a thief, but he had a heart.


Jo, What is the source of your claims that Duane never used a gun or violence in a robbery?

So Duane was a thief with a heart of gold? After sleeping with his victims, he robbed them? I don't think he has any qualifications to claim "a heart of gold".

I have heard the term "a hooker with a heart of gold". If there is such a person, I guess they operate on a higher moral level than Duane did.

Robert99


Tongue
UnimpressedWhat is YOUR Source OF INFORMATION Robert99? You have NONE!

TongueShockedUnimpressed
You are the one who said "heart of gold" - what is your source?
The things I have learned about Weber's past are horrible and definitely NOT anything the man I knew would have done, but the BAD STUFF really happened.

Did it ever occur in your overloaded negative mine that perhaps something happened to Weber that caused him to change? Why would a man whose life had been taking from others make a complete turn-around? He supposedly even stole from his own mother.

Perhaps that is the BIG question you and others who claim to have so many "abilities" and "knowledge" should be asking themselves. What would cause a life time criminal to reform himself? One of the arguments has been age, but it took more than that to change him into the man he became and the man I knew.


Strange that Duane touched so many hearts and did so much good during his last yrs! Strange that in 1977 he seemed to AWAKEN. The crime happened in 1971, but something took over Weber's life - the woman he was married to until 1977 - thought he was a horrible person, but I never knew that horrible person.

Yet, his friend (he met in 1973 is still a friend to me to this day). He and his wife have stood solid with me and what I believe and the strange life I had with Duane and his confession. Duane and I even flew from CO to GA for their wedding). Duane touch the hearts people (all who knew him) - this man who we all found out was an excon with 17 yrs in prison. The friends, his employers, myself, my daughter, my family, casual and work aquaintances - no one could believe this man had spent 17 yrs in a prison - much less 5 prisons or more.

At first when I told some of them that he had been in prison - NONE of them could believe it. To his best friend, Duane did mention he had something in his past, but never spelled it out.

Duane had NO enemies in the yrs I knew him - everyone liked him and he was very generous with his time and money to help others. He was sweet, lovable, generous, kind, loving - I saw nothing of the horrible person I have been told about. Remember Tina called Cooper a "very sad man".

Frankly I think that was the turning point. He was desperate and strangely he survived - but he also changed. Was the change out of necessity to keep from being found out or did he really change deep down? Did what happened that night finally awaken in him the man he could be?

I cannot explain the fingerprints or the DNA. Was Cooper actually someone who Duane was with and a buddy he cared about. That thought has always been in my mind because of that one thing he said in WA "Maybe I was the one on the ground" 1979, but 11 days before he died he said "I'm Dan Cooper"1995. Twenty-two yrs and the only times that Cooper was mentioned during all of that time.

If he had been laying some elaborate story - he would have talked about "other" things - not just those 2 phrases. He tried in the hospital, but I had forgot about the remark he made on the trip. I did NOT know Dan Cooper was D.B. Cooper - my mind just could not wrap around something like that knowing he would be gone in a few days.

I don't have the answers, but I do know that if he was not Cooper that he damn sure knew who was - perhaps the other person buried in that old graveyard....and that he may have felt responsible if the skyjacking was his suggestion.

Right now I cannot remember the 2 names he mentioned withing a couple of hours of each other - and I have never found the connections between Duane and either of these men - but they both did exist and did live in the area. One in Washougal and the other in Bigg, OR. Coincidence!

I know that after the money find in 1980 that Duane quickly exited the area after doing some very unusual things.

Just Jo repeating her memories and trying to understand them.


skyjack71

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I thought Robt99 was a pretty smart guy until recently - now he is showing us exactly what he is made of.

Jo, The above is revisionist history. You have been calling me a "troll living under a bridge" and a "moron" for several years. In fact just check your posts within the last couple of weeks.Angelic

Robert99


Excuse me! A "troll living under a bridge" I don't remember saying that - are you sure it was me?
If I said "moron" it must have been deserved! SEVERAL YEARS?

You have not been on this thread for SEVERAL yrs? If I said both of those things over a several yr period of time - you can bet you had me pissed off big time!

WinkYou would NOT want to know the things I call you after I get off the thread and before I chill out. If my written word was as sharp as my tongue I would have been band from the thread in a New York minute.

In a private moment of anger I am NOT a lady, but I stay in control or try to with the written word. I am sure I have "thought" every word one could apply to a man when I have been opposed.
A wimp I am not.


mrshutter45

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so basically you are saying Duane would be comfortable without his glasses on a plane correct, he could see the front of the plane and watch all of the
passengers without needing his glasses that he always seems to have on.

I still don't follow the DL issue, Duane got the license in 1988 which expired in 92, went back in 90 and was found out correct? what I don't understand is
why this is strange to you, I got both of my DL's at the same DMV. however, I can see them catching him in 90 because they were catching up on the duplicate DL's


Robert99

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Felix Baumgartner appeared earlier today on the Today Show on NBC. He "confessed" that he did not enjoy the jump, which proves that he is sane.

The Today segment had video from his body cameras during the wild spinning. The segment and video link can be found at "http://www.nbcnews.com" in the "Lifestyles" section.

The National Geographic Channel is planning to air a special on his jump on Sunday, November 11, titled: "Space Dive".

Robert99


Farflung

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I have to violently agree with everyone else that all the latest photos of Duane look nothing like the Cooper composite. He would be blind as a bat trying to tie knots or look at money in a bag since he was verified as farsighted by doctors and people with big ass titles. He would need those coke-bottles in the airplane to find the aft stairs. No argument there.

The only thing that makes any sense is the ‘Electronic Underwear’ that Duane wore to receive navigation signals through some sort of vibrating device, which I don’t completely understand. Too complex for me and several amateur radio licensees, one with a double ‘E’. I’m afraid Duane probably took that secret to his grave, unlike his other confessions where he was hijacking Kool-Aid from every store and pantry he entered. Oh, yeaahh!
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mrshutter45

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"Electronic Underwear"

I don't thin I need Mr. Science to figure out where the antenna mast was located Cool


georger

Oct 22, 2012, 11:49 AM
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so basically you are saying Duane would be comfortable without his glasses on a plane correct, he could see the front of the plane and watch all of the
passengers without needing his glasses that he always seems to have on.

I still don't follow the DL issue, Duane got the license in 1988 which expired in 92, went back in 90 and was found out correct? what I don't understand is
why this is strange to you, I got both of my DL's at the same DMV. however, I can see them catching him in 90 because they were catching up on the duplicate DL's

All of this discussed previously years ago - now bring
in the fact of 'polycistic kidney disease (PKD) which
according to author, Pasternak, Duane was
diagnosed with some time around 1970-71 ... ?

Thick glasses are just the beginning! Of whole stable
of conditions, Duane Weber was living and
prospering, with. In Jo's hands these are not
deficits but assets which Duane/Cooper had!

Jo, in true Blevonian style, once used the fact of
PKD as a "reason" for Duane turning to "airplane
hijacking". With all hope lost Duane turned to
airplane hijacking as his personal expression of
angst, with Jo claiming: "Duane was fit as a fiddle
and extra-athletic with no affect at all during those
early years, and for generations thereafter ...
because, 'you dont understand how PKD works'.

So to make a long story short: its poor eye sight
and thick glasses, with onset PKD, a congenital bad
hip and leg(s) condition which you can clearly see in
his photos shopwing is hips/legs, other undisclosed
conditions, and a certain 'Mandingo' condition ... just
for starters...!

The whole set of conditions just screams 'Olympic
athlete' and 'fit as a fiddle' ... and this whole
discussion as never been elevated above that
baseline ever since.. in sells in Seniors Groups
and in Himmelsbach's mindset!

Who knows! Maybe it's true!

Laugh


(This post was edited by georger on Oct 22, 2012, 12:08 PM)


mrshutter45

Oct 22, 2012, 12:30 PM
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In reply to:
so basically you are saying Duane would be comfortable without his glasses on a plane correct, he could see the front of the plane and watch all of the
passengers without needing his glasses that he always seems to have on.

I still don't follow the DL issue, Duane got the license in 1988 which expired in 92, went back in 90 and was found out correct? what I don't understand is
why this is strange to you, I got both of my DL's at the same DMV. however, I can see them catching him in 90 because they were catching up on the duplicate DL's

All of this discussed previously years ago - now bring
in the fact of 'polycistic kidney disease (PKD) which
according to author, Pasternak, Duane was
diagnosed with some time around 1970-71 ... ?

Thick glasses are just the beginning! Of whole stable
of conditions, Duane Weber was living and
prospering, with. In Jo's hands these are not
deficits but assets which Duane/Cooper had!

Jo, in true Blevonian style, once used the fact of
PKD as a "reason" for Duane turning to "airplane
hijacking". With all hope lost Duane turned to
airplane hijacking as his personal expression of
angst, with Jo claiming: "Duane was fit as a fiddle
and extra-athletic with no affect at all during those
early years, and for generations thereafter ...
because, 'you dont understand how PKD works'.

So to make a long story short: its poor eye sight
and thick glasses, with onset PKD, a congenital bad
hip and leg(s) condition which you can clearly see in
his photos shopwing is hips/legs, other undisclosed
conditions, and a certain 'Mandingo' condition ... just
for starters...!

The whole set of conditions just screams 'Olympic
athlete' and 'fit as a fiddle' ... and this whole
discussion as never been elevated above that
baseline ever since.. in sells in Seniors Groups
and in Himmelsbach's mindset!

Who knows! Maybe it's true!

Laugh


"All of this discussed previously years ago"
I'm sure it has, she asked for someone to look at this and I did, I just can't see him doing this, IMO he doesn't fit the profile....period.

I have done one final check with the photo's and I'm done with it, these are the problems I see and she can accept or or deny the findings.
she has to understand that not everyone is on board the Weber plane! I like Jo but disagree with her findings and hope she finds peace with this soon.
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georger

Oct 22, 2012, 12:44 PM
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In reply to:
In reply to:
so basically you are saying Duane would be comfortable without his glasses on a plane correct, he could see the front of the plane and watch all of the
passengers without needing his glasses that he always seems to have on.

I still don't follow the DL issue, Duane got the license in 1988 which expired in 92, went back in 90 and was found out correct? what I don't understand is
why this is strange to you, I got both of my DL's at the same DMV. however, I can see them catching him in 90 because they were catching up on the duplicate DL's

All of this discussed previously years ago - now bring
in the fact of 'polycistic kidney disease (PKD) which
according to author, Pasternak, Duane was
diagnosed with some time around 1970-71 ... ?

Thick glasses are just the beginning! Of whole stable
of conditions, Duane Weber was living and
prospering, with. In Jo's hands these are not
deficits but assets which Duane/Cooper had!

Jo, in true Blevonian style, once used the fact of
PKD as a "reason" for Duane turning to "airplane
hijacking". With all hope lost Duane turned to
airplane hijacking as his personal expression of
angst, with Jo claiming: "Duane was fit as a fiddle
and extra-athletic with no affect at all during those
early years, and for generations thereafter ...
because, 'you dont understand how PKD works'.

So to make a long story short: its poor eye sight
and thick glasses, with onset PKD, a congenital bad
hip and leg(s) condition which you can clearly see in
his photos shopwing is hips/legs, other undisclosed
conditions, and a certain 'Mandingo' condition ... just
for starters...!

The whole set of conditions just screams 'Olympic
athlete' and 'fit as a fiddle' ... and this whole
discussion as never been elevated above that
baseline ever since.. in sells in Seniors Groups
and in Himmelsbach's mindset!

Who knows! Maybe it's true!

Laugh


"All of this discussed previously years ago"
I'm sure it has, she asked for someone to look at this and I did, I just can't see him doing this, IMO he doesn't fit the profile....period.

I have done one final check with the photo's and I'm done with it, these are the problems I see and she can accept or or deny the findings.
she has to understand that not everyone is on board the Weber plane! I like Jo but disagree with her findings and hope she finds peace with this soon.

Duane's 'elf ears' first caught my attention years
ago ...

Oh well. You will be replaced by the next researcher.
Jobs are hard to get! LaughLaugh


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