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skyjack71

Oct 2, 2012, 6:44 PM
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NOT ONE PERSON REMARKED ABOUT THIS POST - SO I WILL REPEAT IT - I DO WANT FEED BACK ON IT, BUT FARFLUNG CHOSE TO DIRECT THINGS IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. I WAS BEING CONSTRUCTIVE AND RELEASING SOMETHING THAT ANYONE INTERESTED IN DISPROVING DUANE WAS COOPER SHOULD HAVE AND WOULD HAVE ADDRESSED!

I WILL BE SCANNING ONLY ONE EVERY FEW DAYS - SCANS ARE VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME AND USING THE COMPUTER IS BECOMING DIFFICULT.


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Only one person to have actually taken the time to see come see me viewed this photo. It has come to my attention I need to let go of some of these things.

I will only show the part of this photo that is necessary to make a point as I have always protected those who Duane knew.

Note: Most pictures taken of Duane after the crime show his hair a sometimes wavy, but sleek with gray hair and with the right product he kept a sleeker look.

This photo was taken in a very public place so he is clowning around, but note his hair. His early pictures prior to 1968 sometimes reflected his hair as being curly and wavy....but none where of high enough quality to make my point.

1. Note the curly hair - he was in a very humidy place at this time and completely surrounded by water....and WA is very humid in November.

2. He had stopped dying his hair and let the gray grow-out and usually very well groomed. This photo caught a part of Weber seldom seen except by those who knew him well.

3. Note the forehead creases and note the hair line appears to be receding even though it was NOT to any extent also this photo is taken by a person much shorter than Weber so the angle is looking up.

4. Note the eye lids! Look carefully and then compare the lids with the composite.

5. He is clowning with a wide eyed expression, but this one photo was the highest quality photo taken of Weber. Even the raising of the eyebrows and a clown factor he could NOT dequise his curly hair nor the shape of the eyelids.

6. We all have some irregularity to our lids - but this ONE is dead on with the composite.

7. I have a prior photo that shows what appears to be a bruise or scar on his forhead, but that photo was poor quality and the mark could have been a smudge of some sort on the photo - so I have never used it.

8. Do any of you see some things noted to the composite artist? Remember his forehead had a slant to it.

9. Let your imagination place the photo of the glasses up on this portion of his head. The wife sent me a picture of her holding these glasses. Remember the stems of the sun glasses where wide and the nose piece of the frame allowed the glasses to sit lower on his nose and face than the regular glasses he wore. The prescript lens he wore with his regular glasses (made his eyes look smaller than they actually were).

10. Also remember the witnesses looked directly at him or from the side or from above him when he was seated. The concepts of the position these individuals view Cooper all have to be taken into acoount.

YOU WILL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL POST TO VIEW THE PHOTOS - NOT GOING TO REPEAT THEM - TOO MUCH FOR ME.


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matthewcline  (D 21585)

Oct 2, 2012, 6:46 PM
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Maybe this is some one playing around; but I got an e-mail from a person claiming to be a Lawyer representing two of the slandered individuals mentioned in this thread. They wanted the screen shots and PM's mentioned in this thread.

If real, good for them! If not, well, it should be!

Matt


mrshutter45

Oct 2, 2012, 7:00 PM
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Maybe this is some one playing around; but I got an e-mail from a person claiming to be a Lawyer representing two of the slandered individuals mentioned in this thread. They wanted the screen shots and PM's mentioned in this thread.

If real, good for them! If not, well, it should be!

Matt

well I guess the TRUTH will finally come out, just as the person in question always claims...the truth lmao


RobertMBlevins

Oct 2, 2012, 7:11 PM
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Christiansen had little to no hair on top. This presents a problem with his fitting the description as possibly being the hijacker. Sure...we have two witnesses claiming Kenny owned a toupee, and for some strange reason back in May of '72 the Seattle FBI started checking out wig and toupee shops as part of the Cooper investigation. (Source: Bremerton Sun article previously posted). Neither really proves Kenny owned one, or even if the hijacker HAD one, although if he were later proven to be The Guy Who Got Away With It, then you could look back and say 'ah-HA!' Until then, it means zip and is a negative on Christiansen being the hijacker.

On the other hand, we have Duane Weber who also has a problem: Naturally curly hair is tough to disguise. Even if you grease the heck out of it, the ends are almost certainly bound to curl a bit, unless you have it straightened somehow. You know, by using that 'relaxing' stuff on it. I know little about these things, except I know people can get it done at a salon, or perhaps at home with the right kit.

Just saying there are definitely 'hair problems' with both suspects...


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mrshutter45

Oct 2, 2012, 7:26 PM
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Christiansen had little to no hair on top. This presents a problem with his fitting the description as possibly being the hijacker. Sure...we have two witnesses claiming Kenny owned a toupee, and for some strange reason back in May of '72 the Seattle FBI started checking out wig and toupee shops as part of the Cooper investigation. (Source: Bremerton Sun article previously posted). Neither really proves Kenny owned one, or even if the hijacker HAD one, although if he were later proven to be The Guy Who Got Away With It, then you could look back and say 'ah-HA!' Until then, it means zip and is a negative on Christiansen being the hijacker.

On the other hand, we have Duane Weber who also has a problem: Naturally curly hair is tough to disguise. Even if you grease the heck out of it, the ends are almost certainly bound to curl a bit, unless you have it straightened somehow. You know, by using that 'relaxing' stuff on it. I know little about these things, except I know people can get it done at a salon, or perhaps at home with the right kit.

Just saying there are definitely 'hair problems' with both suspects...

they also might of thought he had a wig on to cover his looks more....VS being bald


skyjack71

Oct 2, 2012, 7:53 PM
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On the other hand, we have Duane Weber who also has a problem: Naturally curly hair is tough to disguise. Even if you grease the heck out of it, the ends are almost certainly bound to curl a bit, unless you have it straightened somehow. You know, by using that 'relaxing' stuff on it. I know little about these things, except I know people can get it done at a salon, or perhaps at home with the right kit.

Just saying there are definitely 'hair problems' with both suspects...

You are being jerk! This is one of the few photos that show Duane with the curly hair. My hair has always been the same. I used to be able to keep it sleek and with whatever curl I chose, but all I had to do was get into the humity or rain and I had ringlet and waves. Now I just have old peoples hair - kinky or I sleek it back with a product.

Twist and Twist to make things appear as you want them. Show us a picture of Kenny with his toupee or with hair after age 45.
Curly or Straight - but at 45 Kenny was definitely BALDING very badly.

Another rainy day and the hair is wavy in this one, but just on top.
This picture was taken in the 1980's approx 83.


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skyjack71

Oct 2, 2012, 8:06 PM
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Georger has been absent lately, but thought he might need to be reminded of the photo I labeled OLD GROUCH.

Try the OLD Grouch - I dare you to show a witness this photo and tell her it was an old Cooper. There is something about this photo because Duane was startled by the camera and it caused an EXPRESSION not usually seen by others. Since it was Christmas at home he had NOT GROOMED his hair so it was a little wavy in the photo.

The hair is not the issue in the photo, but OTHER thing are!! George, it is not the fact that he has sideburns and from the angle which is the angle the stewardess viewed Cooper - the ears do not appear to be large like some photos and the expression on his face - well, you know one of the stewardess tried to describe a similar expression the artist was unable to depict.


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georger

Oct 2, 2012, 10:04 PM
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Just saying there are definitely 'hair problems' with both suspects...
Gray said marcelled hair - he apparently got this
from some file?


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RobertMBlevins

Oct 2, 2012, 10:58 PM
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Just saying there are definitely 'hair problems' with both suspects...

Gray said marcelled hair - he apparently got this
from some file?
Seriously...you will have to ask him. That was from the passenger Robert Gregory, the owner of the painting company. (Pg 92 in Skyjack) All I know is that Gray said he was allowed to read the original FBI witness reports. I *think* it was SA Thomas Eng who granted him the access in Seattle. I would email Gray on this because it's a legit question that he might answer.

As far as Gregory's description, it was just one of many that varied greatly, if you believe Gray's interpretation of those reports. I can't say 'cause I haven't read them. His main point in pages 90-93 is about the different descriptions given by these witnesses. This was the biggest surprise (to me) when I read the book. I thought almost everyone agreed on most major points, and that's how they came up with the sketch. Gray casts doubt on all of that. Yeah...someone should ask him to clarify.

This email link is completely open to the public:

dbcoopersjump@gmail.com

Complete quote on Gregory's stuff from Skyjack:

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"Marcelled," Robert Gregory, the paint company owner, tells the agents who interviewed him. The marcel wave is an old French hairstyle created by hot irons.

As co-owner of a paint company, Gregory pays attention to details, especially colors. Gregory says the hijacker's suit was not brown or black. The color was russet, a reddish brown. And the suit, he tells the feds, had wide lapels. Which was strange. Wide lapels are out of style.

Gregory also noticed the hijacker's hair. It was jet black, and a greasy patent leather shoe polish shine to it. The hair was so dark it could have been dyed. The man's skin was also 'swarthy.' Perhaps he was Mexican-American, or had American Indian blood.

And about how tall?

Not that tall, Gregory tells the feds. About five foot nine...'


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skyjack71

Oct 2, 2012, 11:07 PM
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Just saying there are definitely 'hair problems' with both suspects...

Gray said marcelled hair - he apparently got this
from some file?
If I remembers correctly it was one of the passengers who claims
Cooper's hair was not straight. The the witness's word or Gray's description - none of us will know unless we can speak with that witness. The man said the suit was russet not brown and not black. If this man remembers that much - why has the FBI or Gray not shown him pictures of Duane with the waves. Perhaps because I never provided the pictures.

Wonder if Gray still knows how to contact this witness. If so I will find all of the curly wavy pictures of Duane I can find. His younger pictures definitely showed wavy almost kinky hair - the one at age 25 (it was a guess) and then a picture with is wife right after he got out of Jefferson. She is in that photo and her sister but I can get a corner of his head without getting them in it. Is not high quality and do NOT know who was taking the picture (in fact I never thought about that until just now).

As far as I know Gray did NOT get this from the FILE, but some of the witnesses he interviewed. Mitchell was the closest to Cooper and he told me he really didn't pay much attention to Cooper - as he was studying and really did not know what was going on. He did look only because of the attention the guy was getting.

Never heard the terminolgy Marcelled other than when Gray described. There was a process to accomplish this look, but Duane had natural waves. He did NOT do anything to his hair other than try to keep the curls away, but a good rain and there they were - just as the picture of Duane depicts.

If Duane's hair was moused and set into waves in order to change his appearance - it might have held while he was on the plane.
This process was used by the Flappers for the hairdo's of the time. If he went to New Orleans before flying to WA - that hair do was popular in that area even in the 70's....because of the cajuns and blacks who waited tables and were Door man....it made them intesting and they got more tips.

Be interesting to present photos of Weber with the curly and wavy pics and would have to search all of the pictures I have. The hair-do Gray mentions brings to mind the Clark Gable day and the vaudville days - they deliberatly put product on their hair and created finger waves and when it dried it would stay till you combed out or it got wet. (mostly it was done with EGG WHITES - WHIPPED. Made a great mouse or setting jell...they would add a little fragrance to it also.

The Flappers and showgirls of the 30's /40's did this and that is where the stiff set wave fad came from.


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RobertMBlevins

Oct 2, 2012, 11:37 PM
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In reply to:
Just saying there are definitely 'hair problems' with both suspects...

Gray said marcelled hair - he apparently got this
from some file?

Seriously...you will have to ask him. That was from the passenger Robert Gregory, the owner of the painting company. (Pg 92 in Skyjack) All I know is that Gray said he was allowed to read the original FBI witness reports. I *think* it was SA Thomas Eng who granted him the access in Seattle. I would email Gray on this because it's a legit question that he might answer.

As far as Gregory's description, it was just one of many that varied greatly, if you believe Gray's interpretation of those reports. I can't say 'cause I haven't read them. His main point in pages 90-93 is about the different descriptions given by these witnesses. This was the biggest surprise (to me) when I read the book. I thought almost everyone agreed on most major points, and that's how they came up with the sketch. Gray casts doubt on all of that. Yeah...someone should ask him to clarify.

This email link is completely open to the public:

dbcoopersjump@gmail.com

Complete quote on Gregory's stuff from Skyjack:

Quote:
"Marcelled," Robert Gregory, the paint company owner, tells the agents who interviewed him. The marcel wave is an old French hairstyle created by hot irons.

As co-owner of a paint company, Gregory pays attention to details, especially colors. Gregory says the hijacker's suit was not brown or black. The color was russet, a reddish brown. And the suit, he tells the feds, had wide lapels. Which was strange. Wide lapels are out of style.

Gregory also noticed the hijacker's hair. It was jet black, and had a greasy patent leather shoe polish shine to it. The hair was so dark it could have been dyed. The man's skin was also 'swarthy.' Perhaps he was Mexican-American, or had American Indian blood.

And about how tall?

Not that tall, Gregory tells the feds. About five foot nine...'

Skyjack 71 says in part:

Quote:
'As far as I know Gray did NOT get this from the FILE, but some of the witnesses he interviewed...'

NO. My best information is that Geoff Gray met in Seattle with Special Agent Thomas Eng and was allowed to view the witness reports.

If he had interviewed the witnesses in the present, he not only would have SAID so....but he would have quoted their comments for the present, as well.

There is none of that in Skyjack for the witnesses quoted between pages 91-93. It's obvious he got that material from another source...like the Seattle FBI.


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RobertMBlevins

Oct 3, 2012, 12:32 AM
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I don't usually double-post, but I've been giving thought again to holding a DB Cooper Whatever Thing at the Auburn Avenue Theatre next August.

Now...I know a lot of you out there in ThreadLand gave me the 3rd-degree because I canceled that idea last year for Auburn Days. But here's the deal: ALMOST NO ONE WAS INTERESTED. I put up a webpage on it for six months, and got TWO EMAILS.

That's right. So I canceled the idea. Anyone with a grain of sense would have done the same. However, with the proper support I might be willing to entertain this for the second weekend of August 2013. But I have to see some REAL interest or forget it.

The Ave seats 250, has a huge pull-down screen, and a big stage for panel discussions. AB always fronts the free refreshments at the Snack Counter. Gayla passes them out. Most people think we hired her for the day, when in reality she's The Prez. Not of everything. Just AB. (*laughs*)

One of the things I want to do is collaborate with a couple of different people on a short film that covers everything truly known about the hijacking, and all the known suspects. I mean ALL of them, the ones at WIKI, even if they've been eliminated. I have great equipment and Wondershare. It can be done. I could organize this to actually work, but not with negativity and certainly not without cooperation.

People don't want to hear that Ken Christiansen might be the hijacker, not by itself. They want to hear the entire DB Cooper story from all sides, all suspects, all angles. And that includes the Seattle FBI and their efforts to solve the case.

There are some benefits to participating. For example, core organizers will get a free box seat and lunch at Emerald Downs, a photo op, minor TV on a cable sports channel, and you can see the horses up close and maybe do some betting on the races. The main event is the Pioneer Queen race, held by Auburn Days and the track co-operatively. Anyone on the Auburn Days committee gets the royal treatment. As chairman for the Auburn Theatre event each year, I'm allowed to name a limited number of folks to attend Pioneer Queen.

Trust me, this is a fun thing. I won fourteen bucks above what I paid for parking, although you can park free if you're willing to walk. And walk.

This is something which cannot be done by just one person, or even the AB staff. It is much bigger than me, or anyone in this office. I see it more as a Northwest thing. Smile

There will already be something next year guaranteed to pack the house. AB is working with the Auburn School District on our Young Writers' Project. Three kids will be signed to contracts/royalty agreements for the best three books subbed. Two will be published for Kindle, the first place winner for Kindle and six/nine paperback. Top three will be announced in the media before the event...but not the order of the winners. That will be done at the theatre. Exact time during that Saturday is still not set. Doing something for kids always brings a crowd. And why not? It's a nice thing.


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377  (F 666)

Oct 3, 2012, 2:53 AM
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Jo wrote
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If we cannot trust law enforcement who can we trust?

Perhaps fire fighters or paramedics?

Priests and investment bankers were removed from the list years ago.

Lawyers never were on the list.

I tell my son that he can trust skydivers. I wouldn't say the same thing to my 19 year old daughter.

377


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Farflung

Oct 3, 2012, 8:07 AM
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The ever reliable and honest Skyjack71 asks:

If we cannot trust law enforcement who can we trust?”

As you have pointed out dozens of times, the FBI is incompetent and constantly engaged in cover-ups. So it’s a strange question about law enforcement, considering the source of the question.

Who’s the most trust worthy and heroic in the twenty first century? This guy:

http://jacksonville.com/...ages-lawsuit-against

Yep, this is our new Sgt York, Audie Murphy and Superman all rolled into one. He’s the result of what society has to offer as an example of the finest character, role model and courageous of individual, a nation of 360 million can produce. Gaze deep into the mirror which reflects what America has become.

For this ‘man’ was witness to a middle aged male, sodomizing a pre-teen, orphan in a college shower and sprung into action like any of us would, by going to his office, finishing his work day, then going home to call his father for advice on what to do. Can that much gallantry possibly exist in one person? There must be thousands of explanations for an adult male, savagely raping a child who has no parents. Perhaps he was simply trying to demonstrate what ‘could’ happen if the boy was ever in a bad situation.

Thanks to Mike McQueary, a lightning fast, ten years later, had this crime reported. His father must be a superb example of humanity to suggest his son report this to the college, and let ‘them’ deal with it. Who says the fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree? Poppycock.

Imagine the will it must have taken to keep cashing paychecks from that same college for a decade, after seeing what the boss does to little kids. Hero simply isn’t strong enough of a word to describe our new age Super-human. Who on this thread would dare suggest they could even carry McQueary’s ethical gym bag? I thought so.

In answer to the original question of “who can you trust”, I say Mike McQueary, or should it be ‘Sergeant Audie McQueary Superman’? Yes.


skyjack71

Oct 3, 2012, 9:30 AM
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This photo is of very poor quality.
It was of 3 men so they have been cropped out. Because of the Quality I had NOT tried to scan it in the past. After I did and enlarged it - I wish I had done it much sooner.

The hairline is very evident on this - why some would call it a receding hairline when it was actually the slant of the head.
Ever feature regarding Cooper is right there.

This pic shows an expression or whatever that I have only found on these earlier photos I am revealing. Duane must have had missing teeth or a poorly fitted bridge - he was not smiling with a broad smile and his mouth appears different than the later photos.

I know he had a bridge when we got married and in his later yrs it had to be replaced.
I was never told when he got that first bridge - but, this photo might help bring that to light.


The tax records from 1969 to 1978 do not make any mention of dental bills - so it must have been paid with cash and for some reason not listed on his tax deductionsl.

Perhaps he used a different name when he got the bridge.

If Cooper had obvious dental problems at the time of the skyjacking - the FBI would have kept silent so they could be sure they had their man. Only someone with access to the FBI files could know this for sure...perhaps their way of making sure they got the right man.

The motion Cooper supposedly made with his mouth could have been to keep a temporary in place or because of missing teeth. Duane had a LOT of pride about his teeth - and I never saw him without the bridge.

Duane had also gain considerable weight from 1971 to 1973 - guess he was eating well!
Although this is could have been in part the kidney starting to enlarge....although it was not noticeable when we met in 1977.

I do want feed back:

The eyes seem consistent, but the fading of this old Polaroid makes them look lighter although I can assure you they were a very dark brown.

The nose does not seem prominent and the glasses are not sitting high which helps, There is a large ink smug on the pic. What I do notice is a small scar he had right in front of his hairline in the middle doesn't show up and there is something different about the hairline from photos taken pre 1973.

Duane had a little dip - almost the "hint" of an off centered widows peak in his early photos, but this would not be visible in picture during our marriage and I was told by a prior wife when they got back together temporarily in 1972 that he had a gash on his head which he claimed he got trimming a tree n the yard.

I never understood why he and his wife would separate in November of 1971 and then get back together in Feb of 1972 and yet it was in Feb/Mar that she supposedly tried to commit suicide per a conversation with her son. Supposedly an ambulance was called...they lived in the Atlanta area.

Yet, in May/June they are granted a divorce and Duane
remarrys immediately. That is FAST work for anyone! Guess there is MORE to this than I know! ALL I know is WHAT family and the wives told me.

Duane had a completely different set of friends after Jan of 1972...but then maybe because of his past and having only lived as Duane Weber since 1968 his circle would have been limited. Why when we would go to N.Orleans he made a point to drop me someplace before going to see his old friends - who only knew him as John Collins.

HOW DAMN NAIVE CAN ONE WOMAN HAVE BEEN!

For some reason the pic is being blocked from being posted. When I try to put it on it simply says LAST#


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Farflung

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Out of skyjack71’s last five comments, Duane Weber is mentioned a repetitive - 24 times; while no mention was made of “other suspects”, which she claimed as a primary concern. Strange, so strange (read: Not).

When will the “other suspects” be discussed? Or is “other suspects” simply a euphemism for Duane Weber, which allows for faux modesty and denial of steering the thread back to the thoroughly covered Duane? Yes (read: Yes).



The lady doth protest too much, methinks.” – Some wicked old, irrelevant dude
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georger

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Out of skyjack71’s last five comments, Duane Weber is mentioned a repetitive - 24 times; while no mention was made of “other suspects”, which she claimed as a primary concern. Strange, so strange (read: Not).

When will the “other suspects” be discussed? Or is “other suspects” simply a euphemism for Duane Weber, which allows for faux modesty and denial of steering the thread back to the thoroughly covered Duane? Yes (read: Yes).



The lady doth protest too much, methinks.” – Some wicked old, irrelevant dude

Wicked. Speed of Duane.jpg (111 KB)
Copy of that goes next to my Betty Page calendar
in the garage.

Laugh


mrshutter45

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You might be surprised to learn that hairstyling mousse only goes back to the mid 1980s. Mousse has been such a cultural presence, whether in original foam form or the now much more preferred gel that it seems to have always existed. In fact, there was an attempt at marketing hair mousse in the 1970s. It was officially called Breck Salon Hair Finishing Formula and it is quite possible that its ungainly name contributed to its rapid disappearance off store shelves and not in the good way. More likely is the fact that the let it all hang out hair styling of the 1970s just wasn't really as conducive to the properties of mousse as the conservatively coiffed milieu of Ronnie Raygun's Mourning in America. Leave it to the folks at L'Oreal to have better timing than the folks at Breck.


skyjack71

Oct 3, 2012, 7:41 PM
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Out of skyjack71’s last five comments, Duane Weber is mentioned a repetitive - 24 times; while no mention was made of “other suspects”, which she claimed as a primary concern. Strange, so strange (read: Not).

When will the “other suspects” be discussed? Or is “other suspects” simply a euphemism for Duane Weber, which allows for faux modesty and denial of steering the thread back to the thoroughly covered Duane? Yes (read: Yes).

POO! I presented a NEW PHOTO and discussed that . NOT the SAME old SAME. I was presenting photo never presented before and want opinons on them IT WAS not more of the SAME OLE SAME!


RobertMBlevins

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Out of skyjack71’s last five comments, Duane Weber is mentioned a repetitive - 24 times; while no mention was made of “other suspects”, which she claimed as a primary concern. Strange, so strange (read: Not).

When will the “other suspects” be discussed? Or is “other suspects” simply a euphemism for Duane Weber, which allows for faux modesty and denial of steering the thread back to the thoroughly covered Duane? Yes (read: Yes).



The lady doth protest too much, methinks.” – Some wicked old, irrelevant dude

Hate to admit it, but the same goes for Christiansen. That case has been presented. Pictures, testimony, documents available. I can't prove he's the hijacker. If I could, I would have done so already and you would see me on Letterman. So..time to move on to either another possible suspect, or some aspect of the case that actually has to do with the hijacking itself, or any events now surrounding it.

Jo wrote
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If we cannot trust law enforcement who can we trust?

377:
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Perhaps fire fighters or paramedics?

Priests and investment bankers were removed from the list years ago.

Lawyers never were on the list.

I tell my son that he can trust skydivers. I wouldn't say the same thing to my 19 year old daughter.

I like what Steve McQueen said in the film The Getaway:

Quote:
'Who do I trust? (takes out dollar bill) THIS. In God I trust...'

Cool


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matthewcline  (D 21585)

Oct 3, 2012, 8:18 PM
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Stop with the PM's trying to exonerate yourself [In reply to] Can't Post

The PM's are out of hand.

The e-mail came to me, period. No you can not see it, no you can not e-mail the person. If true, I will gladly hep them.
If true, a couple of you will be served.
If true, a third party who has been watching you all in this thread will "win".

It is just a mater of truth. If you told a fable, stretched the truth, or insulted or implicated some one in in e FELONY, you made the mistake and will live with it.

If the e-mail is true.

I for one hope it is.

Matt


georger

Oct 3, 2012, 8:38 PM
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Re: [RobertMBlevins] The “Duane-O-meteR” [In reply to] Can't Post

Hate to admit it, but the same goes for Christiansen. That case has been presented. Pictures, testimony, documents available. I can't prove he's the hijacker. ,
No but you can keep posting this shit 50 billion
times!

GIVE IT A BREAK!

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOV ON.

yOU ARE VERY CLOSE TO THE FILTER SET STAGE
AND BEING GONE ON MY BROWSER-

CAN I DO THAT?

YES.

AH HELL ...

ITS DONE...

BYE BLEVINS, YOU'RE GONE


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skyjack71

Oct 3, 2012, 8:39 PM
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Re: [mrshutter45] A History of Hair Mousse [In reply to] Can't Post

Wasn't called Mousse, but, there was stuff I put on my hair in 1958 because it was curly and I wanted a looser curl - but Not the huge rollers were used 12 yrs or so later.

Egg whites have been around forever. Whipped to a foam or beaten to the consistency of a pie meringue. Did the same thing without the chemicals.

As with some of todays products it would leave a residue on your comb or brush, but sure did control the curls.

When I was only 4 yrs old in 1944, my mother got my long hair to hold into some very very long curls - we didn't know what a curling iron was. Do you not think the GIBSON Girl look had some help?

Look back at the elaborate do's of the 1700's in England...do you actually believe they all had wigs.
Note the wigs were made out of real hair in those days.


RobertMBlevins

Oct 3, 2012, 9:39 PM
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Re: [georger] The “Duane-O-meteR” [In reply to] Can't Post

In reply to:
Hate to admit it, but the same goes for Christiansen. That case has been presented. Pictures, testimony, documents available. I can't prove he's the hijacker. ,

No but you can keep posting this shit 50 billion
times!

GIVE IT A BREAK!

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOV ON.

yOU ARE VERY CLOSE TO THE FILTER SET STAGE
AND BEING GONE ON MY BROWSER-

CAN I DO THAT?

YES.

AH HELL ...

ITS DONE...

BYE BLEVINS, YOU'RE GONE
PulllleeeeZe...

You want to 'filter' me out so you can't see what I post...and in which case I'll assume you can't respond?

After all the insults you've tossed my way for two years, and a couple of bannings? Yeah, I'm really gonna miss all that. How the heck did I get so lucky? You must be in a gracious mood this week.

I looked in the mirror. Guess I'm still here. You had me going there for a minute. Now you get cat pictures.


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Farflung

Oct 4, 2012, 8:15 AM
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Quibbling [In reply to] Can't Post

Skyjack71 selectively states:

POO! I presented a NEW PHOTO and discussed that . NOT the SAME old SAME. I was presenting photo never presented before and want opinons on them IT WAS not more of the SAME OLE SAME!”

Farflung quotes self with:

“Out of skyjack71’s last five comments…..”

Was there a “NEW PHOTO” in the last five comments skyjack71 posted? NO, NO, NO, NO! So why quibble on this point? Because that’s what every person has done that has been caught red handed, 100% of the time, in my life-long experience. Deflect, deny, minimize and quibble. There was NO PHOTO associated with four of the five comments at all, so she violated her own demand by virtue of that, and selectively avoided the fact Duane was mentioned over twenty times. It WAS the “SAME old SAME” by bringing up Duane AFTER launching an admonishment how “other suspects” don’t get discussed. As if that was ever the issue hence my challenge. Skyjack71 bemoaned and complained how much time was being spent on Kenny (presumably because she is an expert on efficiency and time management (God help us all)) when “other suspects” aren’t being discussed. Well Duane has been talked about, orders of magnitude more than Kenny, so if there is any self-righteous indignation associated with suspect saturation, is most certainly would be the exclusive property of Duane.

Now it’s time to quibble, because that what these people do. She already deflected by suggesting “other suspects” out of an interest of academic purity, no doubt. Denied that she was steering the conversation back to Duane and attempted to minimize by stating that a new picture was posted.

Apparently the claim of it being acceptable to discuss Duane if a new photo is included, is somehow akin to talking about other suspects, even though it’s still the same hackneyed Duane who has had an inordinate amount of time ‘wasted’ on his background. While simultaneously chilling thread readers to the bone, at the potential nightmare of writhing agony and squandered time, where each and every photo of Duane will now be posted and analyzed to the point where the Zapruder film will appear to have been given a passing glance.

There have been quibblers throughout history, and their numbers have continually risen. I have an issue with Mr. Darwin over this phenomenon, unless some species actually devolve into a self interested group who communicate via passive aggressive speech patterns and denial. You can make all the multi-syllabic, non-diction claims you like, but ultimately the people you are trying hardest to convince of your righteous cause, already know precisely what you are. Quibblers.
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