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RobertMBlevins

Sep 25, 2012, 10:40 PM
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1) Early interviews would not count. They didn't have any suspects at first. At least no one publicly known.


You are factually wrongos bochos dochos aginos.

Where do you think the name "D.B." Cooper came
from?

A reporter/book writer bochos dochos wrongos.

Youve been lost now for years. We are calling off
the search. Bye!
Uh...you DO realize of course that 'DB/Dan Cooper' was a made-up name, right? And that real people with real identities were not associated with that name until Actual Real People Type Suspects came along later?

U R certainly funny sometimes. Lost? You are the one who needs a map. Crazy


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377  (F 666)

Sep 25, 2012, 10:45 PM
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Jo wrote
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This has been NO tease. You have money - get your ass on a plane and bring Safe Crack with you. Expect to spent at least a wk....copying and collecting data.
I won't be good for more than about 4 hours a day and then will have to rest. YOU will sign a confidentiality agreement and you will NOT be able to use the files for PROFIT, but to assist in proving or disproving Weber was Cooper. If the FBI wants to participate - I will think about that one.

I'm still fond of you Jo even though you are getting pretty bossy in the prior paragraph. You still are putting the cart before the Clydesdales. Put Duane in a parachute and THEN I'll give your material a lot of immediate attention.

377


georger

Sep 25, 2012, 11:00 PM
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In reply to:
1) Early interviews would not count. They didn't have any suspects at first. At least no one publicly known.


You are factually wrongos bochos dochos aginos.

Where do you think the name "D.B." Cooper came
from?

A reporter/book writer bochos dochos wrongos.

Youve been lost now for years. We are calling off
the search. Bye!

Uh...you DO realize of course that 'DB/Dan Cooper' was a made-up name, right? And that real people with real identities were not associated with that name until Actual Real People Type Suspects came along later?

U R certainly funny sometimes. Lost? You are the one who needs a map. Crazy
Quote: "Local police and FBI agents immediately began questioning possible suspects. One of the first was an Oregon man with a minor police record named D. B. Cooper, contacted by Portland police on the off-chance that the hijacker had used his real name, or the same alias in a previous crime. His involvement was quickly ruled out; but an inexperienced wire service reporter (Clyde Jabin of UPI by most accounts,[40] Joe Frazier of AP by others[41]), rushing to meet an imminent deadline, confused the eliminated suspect's name with the pseudonym used by the hijacker. The mistake was picked up and repeated by numerous other media sources including The Associated Press, and the moniker "D. B. Cooper" became lodged in the public's collective memory.[35]"

You might have to learn some history to get your
green card -


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RobertMBlevins

Sep 25, 2012, 11:19 PM
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Georger quotes in part:

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'Quote: "Local police and FBI agents immediately began questioning possible suspects. One of the first was an Oregon man with a minor police record named D. B. Cooper, contacted by Portland police on the off-chance that the hijacker had used his real name, or the same alias in a previous crime. His involvement was quickly ruled out...'

Gee, I wonder why he was ruled out? Maybe it's because 'Dan/DB Cooper' was a made up name or something. You think? Crazy

Too bad the hijacker didn't use the name 'Mike Jones'. The FBI would have had a lot of initial 'suspects' lol. U R still funny, though.


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georger

Sep 25, 2012, 11:45 PM
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Georger quotes in part:

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'Quote: "Local police and FBI agents immediately began questioning possible suspects. One of the first was an Oregon man with a minor police record named D. B. Cooper, contacted by Portland police on the off-chance that the hijacker had used his real name, or the same alias in a previous crime. His involvement was quickly ruled out...'

Gee, I wonder why he was ruled out? Maybe it's because 'Dan/DB Cooper' was a made up name or something. You think? Crazy

Too bad the hijacker didn't use the name 'Mike Jones'. The FBI would have had a lot of initial 'suspects' lol. U R still funny, though.

No Blevins. Your statement was:

"Early interviews would not count. They didn't have
any suspects at first. At least no one publicly known."

which is patently untrue, and just one more piece of
Blevins propoganda.

Now if someone were to come along and actually buy
into your endless propaganda bullshit . . .

Point is you are factually wrong on all counts.

There were suspects (immediately).
There were a few suspects whose names were
leaked to the press, thus we have the nym "DB"
Cooper instead of Dan Cooper ...

And you literally dont know what you are talking
about but have no problems spreading your nightly
perfume of false information and claims ....

to the entertainment of everyone!


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RobertMBlevins

Sep 26, 2012, 1:56 AM
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The original post, which I still believe makes sense:

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Skyjack 71 says in part:

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'Those who inteviewed the Stewardesses did so with their own subjects in mind rather than being objective. Actually at this date and time the crew would NOT be able to ID a photo because that is JUST fact!...'

1) Early interviews would not count. They didn't have any suspects at first. At least no one publicly known. Later interviews, much more likely.

2) I agree that even if Tina, Alice, or Flo pointed to a picture in 2012 and said, "That is DEFINITELY the hijacker...' that without corroborating evidence pointing to that subject, the identification alone would be almost useless. Now if all three STRONGLY agreed that X Suspect in the Picture was the hijacker, then maybe. But you would still need other evidence or there would always be doubt. This is a fact where Jo and I agree. The only way the picture ID would work is if it had been done shortly after the hijacking...not forty-plus years later. It's far too late to call the case solved on any eyewitness identifcation alone. More evidence needed.

On a side note, I took tomorrow off to do some vehicle shopping. The mourning period on 'Lil Subie' is over. An ability to reach the high country and go around town as well are the main requirements.Wink


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skyjack71

Sep 26, 2012, 2:48 AM
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Jo wrote
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This has been NO tease. You have money - get your ass on a plane and bring Safe Crack with you. Expect to spent at least a wk....copying and collecting data.
I won't be good for more than about 4 hours a day and then will have to rest. YOU will sign a confidentiality agreement and you will NOT be able to use the files for PROFIT, but to assist in proving or disproving Weber was Cooper. If the FBI wants to participate - I will think about that one.

I'm still fond of you Jo even though you are getting pretty bossy in the prior paragraph. You still are putting the cart before the Clydesdales. Put Duane in a parachute and THEN I'll give your material a lot of immediate attention.

377

U did not read what I said!

Photo Recognition has done that - compliments of the gambling arena.

You missed something back there - Hurry Up Gus or you will miss the plane.

California is the key to the church. Old videos and pictues of Derry is the door. Just one of those guys hit the Wooommm button and there he was. D.B. Cooper right where I said he was.

Trying to find the clips they made in WA and OR after they left CA. Young man running to help the ones who were jumping - that is Dan Cooper. He packed the dam chute....but his name was not Dan Cooper.


377  (F 666)

Sep 26, 2012, 3:37 AM
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Smoke jumper history is richly documented. We had no trouble proving Sheridan Peterson had been a USFS smoke jumper. You have some fuzzy photos and wishful thinking Jo. Zero evidence that Duane Weber was a jumper, packer or in any other way associated with smoke jumpers. The camp photos in my opinion do not have enough detail to PROVE a match to Weber using facial recognition software. Georger might be able to disprove it by comparing ear locations.

Duane's alleged metamorphosis from a bungling thief to a guy who could successfully plan and execute NORJACK is simply too big a stretch. You disagree. I know that. We just don't see eye to eye on Webers abilities.

377


matthewcline  (D 21585)

Sep 26, 2012, 7:35 AM
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So, NOW, we accept these web pages info as fact?
I thought when I introduced this info it was not to be taken as fact, because nothing on the internet is real?

I am so confused! History is fake, the web is not real, or is history true and the web is real and we are all fake?

Copper is laughing his ass off in Mexico, enjoying a cold one.

Matt


sailshaw

Sep 26, 2012, 8:27 AM
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Hi 377

You mention Sheridan was a smoke jumper (I think it has been mentioned he worked for the USFS as a jumper for three years). Sheridan told me a lot about his USFS work and how he was not afraid to jump into the forests except for jumping onto a clif. He did not worry about water or tree landings. He could walk out of any place he jumped and was really good at pathfinding and surviving. Some where in the past posts it was mentioned Sheridan did a demonstration jump in a suit (much the same as DB Cooper) and it was before Norjack when he was possibly in the Boeing Skydiving Club. Does anyone remember the suit description (and shoes) he used in the demonstration jump?

Also, Has anyone heard if the FBI has made any progress on getting the DNA from the four letters (stamps/envelope flaps) sent to the papers just after Norjack? When compared with Sheridan, I believe they will find a match and will be well on their way to solving the crime. This is truly the "smoking gun" in the case and will blow it wide open.

Thanks,
sailshaw@aol.com


BobKnoss

Sep 26, 2012, 8:37 AM
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In reply to:
Jo wrote
Quote:
This has been NO tease. You have money - get your ass on a plane and bring Safe Crack with you. Expect to spent at least a wk....copying and collecting data.
I won't be good for more than about 4 hours a day and then will have to rest. YOU will sign a confidentiality agreement and you will NOT be able to use the files for PROFIT, but to assist in proving or disproving Weber was Cooper. If the FBI wants to participate - I will think about that one.

I'm still fond of you Jo even though you are getting pretty bossy in the prior paragraph. You still are putting the cart before the Clydesdales. Put Duane in a parachute and THEN I'll give your material a lot of immediate attention.

377

I have done that, Sir. Would you like a deposition?


BobKnoss

Sep 26, 2012, 8:48 AM
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Smoke jumper history is richly documented. We had no trouble proving Sheridan Peterson had been a USFS smoke jumper. You have some fuzzy photos and wishful thinking Jo. Zero evidence that Duane Weber was a jumper, packer or in any other way associated with smoke jumpers. The camp photos in my opinion do not have enough detail to PROVE a match to Weber using facial recognition software. Georger might be able to disprove it by comparing ear locations.

Duane's alleged metamorphosis from a bungling thief to a guy who could successfully plan and execute NORJACK is simply too big a stretch. You disagree. I know that. We just don't see eye to eye on Webers abilities.

377

I believe you understand the situation quite well. I can verify that Weber had very little input to the plans. He did pick the jump spot based on past knowledge of the area. He called it, "My place."


BobKnoss

Sep 26, 2012, 9:00 AM
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Hi 377

You mention Sheridan was a smoke jumper (I think it has been mentioned he worked for the USFS as a jumper for three years). Sheridan told me a lot about his USFS work and how he was not afraid to jump into the forests except for jumping onto a clif. He did not worry about water or tree landings. He could walk out of any place he jumped and was really good at pathfinding and surviving. Some where in the past posts it was mentioned Sheridan did a demonstration jump in a suit (much the same as DB Cooper) and it was before Norjack when he was possibly in the Boeing Skydiving Club. Does anyone remember the suit description (and shoes) he used in the demonstration jump?

Also, Has anyone heard if the FBI has made any progress on getting the DNA from the four letters (stamps/envelope flaps) sent to the papers just after Norjack? When compared with Sheridan, I believe they will find a match and will be well on their way to solving the crime. This is truly the "smoking gun" in the case and will blow it wide open.

Thanks,
sailshaw@aol.com

Sorry, that's more phony evidence, buddy. The only "Smoking Gunn" in this case that could tell you anything is Mike Barton. But he won't, because he's a team member. You float in Never-Never-Land with your string of lame-brained theories. Talk to Nick O'Hara or Ralph to get the real skinny. They MIGHT tell you the truth, if you promise to keep a secret...... You are a discredit to honest men.


BobKnoss

Sep 26, 2012, 9:09 AM
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So, NOW, we accept these web pages info as fact?
I thought when I introduced this info it was not to be taken as fact, because nothing on the internet is real?

I am so confused! History is fake, the web is not real, or is history true and the web is real and we are all fake?

Copper is laughing his ass off in Mexico, enjoying a cold one.

Matt

Yes, you are a figment of your own mind. Everything you say is not real. History is a fabrication written to make you think you are in charge and everything is peachy keen. In fact, it is upside down and inside out. Bottom up, top down and moving faster and faster. Buy gold and store canned goods. Glenn Beck.


Robert99

Sep 26, 2012, 9:23 AM
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In reply to:
In reply to:
So, NOW, we accept these web pages info as fact?
I thought when I introduced this info it was not to be taken as fact, because nothing on the internet is real?

I am so confused! History is fake, the web is not real, or is history true and the web is real and we are all fake?

Copper is laughing his ass off in Mexico, enjoying a cold one.

Matt

Yes, you are a figment of your own mind. Everything you say is not real. History is a fabrication written to make you think you are in charge and everything is peachy keen. In fact, it is upside down and inside out. Bottom up, top down and moving faster and faster. Buy gold and store canned goods. Glenn Beck.

Knoss, You are a figment of your own imagination. And your mention of Glenn Beck means that you are as nutty as him. But Beck makes a lot more money at being a screwball than you. So eat your heart out.

Robert99


Amazon  (D License)

Sep 26, 2012, 10:46 AM
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In reply to:
In reply to:
In reply to:
So, NOW, we accept these web pages info as fact?
I thought when I introduced this info it was not to be taken as fact, because nothing on the internet is real?

I am so confused! History is fake, the web is not real, or is history true and the web is real and we are all fake?

Copper is laughing his ass off in Mexico, enjoying a cold one.

Matt

Yes, you are a figment of your own mind. Everything you say is not real. History is a fabrication written to make you think you are in charge and everything is peachy keen. In fact, it is upside down and inside out. Bottom up, top down and moving faster and faster. Buy gold and store canned goods. Glenn Beck.

Knoss, You are a figment of your own imagination. And your mention of Glenn Beck means that you are as nutty as him. But Beck makes a lot more money at being a screwball than you. So eat your heart out.

Robert99

+1000

All aboard for Cobol


mrshutter45

Sep 26, 2012, 2:27 PM
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"Sorry, that's more phony evidence"

everything you say is phony Bob, you can't even get Janets story right with your story! you put him on the ground before she seen him on the stairs!

you won't answer the questions about your "phony" flight path!
you show "phony" pictures as "evidence"
you won't answer questions of why you skewed everything on your map to fit your needs! nothing!

BE GONE PROBLEM CHILD.
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RobertMBlevins

Sep 26, 2012, 5:23 PM
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"Sorry, that's more phony evidence"

everything you say is phony Bob, you can't even get Janets story right with your story! you put him on the ground before she seen him on the stairs!

you won't answer the questions about your "phony" flight path!
you show "phony" pictures as "evidence"
you won't answer questions of why you skewed everything on your map to fit your needs! nothing!

BE GONE PROBLEM CHILD.

When Knoss posts up something, it makes me think I might not be so bad after all. (*laughs*)


mrshutter45

Sep 26, 2012, 5:28 PM
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you gotta get up mighty early for that crown Tongue


matthewcline  (D 21585)

Sep 26, 2012, 5:36 PM
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I see your time out is over and you still have not learned a damn thing.

Keep implicating innocent people, the list gets longer each day, and few, are well funded and irritated enough now.

At least you not pretending about "TOG" any more, since you let that cat out of the bag.

But do try and act your age here, OK? No more childish name calling and temper tantrums. Stick to REAL, provable, verifiable facts, any thing else; is either theory or lies, you choose which category you want your fable to be listed as..

Matt


mrshutter45

Sep 26, 2012, 5:45 PM
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I see your time out is over and you still have not learned a damn thing.

Keep implicating innocent people, the list gets longer each day, and few, are well funded and irritated enough now.

At least you not pretending about "TOG" any more, since you let that cat out of the bag.

But do try and act your age here, OK? No more childish name calling and temper tantrums. Stick to REAL, provable, verifiable facts, any thing else; is either theory or lies, you choose which category you want your fable to be listed as..

Matt


well....I guess we won't hear a peep from him if he follows the rules Cool


RobertMBlevins

Sep 26, 2012, 11:31 PM
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Sheridan Petersen, IMHO cannot be the hijacker DB Cooper.

Two simple reasons:

1) His biography over the date of the hijacking is very detailed. HE WAS IN ASIA. There are names, places, babies being born, a wife, a doctor who assisted in at least one of the deliveries with Sheridan present, and other things that seriously preclude he could be the guy. Sheridan also held several medium-profile jobs in and around the general area of SE Asia and wherever the hell that mud hut was located. Okay, Tibet.

And all of this happened over the years around the hijacking. Don't take my word for it. Check for yourself.

I do agree that the DNA on any envelopes received by newspapers should be profiled. But chances are greater that the letters were not sent by the actual hijacker. D.B. wasn't a psycho. It's the psychos who usually send the teasing letters. Or fans.

2) The FBI checked him out already.

On a stranger and happier note, the NFL settled it's dispute with the refs and the REAL refs start tomorrow on Thursday Night Football. Oh, yeah. Cool

For you Seattle fans, here is the guy who called the phony touchdown and handed us a free game. I just love it that all throughout the lockout and controversial calls that it was SEATTLE that benefited LAST before it ended. ('It' being 'The Replacements')

Here's the guy Seattle should name a street after, or at least present later at a game, LOL:

Quote:
'...Lance Easley, side judge: It was Easley who gave the touchdown signal on Monday’s final play, and his call stood through the immediate chaos after, as well as following a replay review. According to the Santa Maria Times, Easley normally officiates “high school and (junior college) games” (both football and basketball) in California’s Central Coast area...'

Sometimes when the fix is in, it's okay if it's official. Right? Cool


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georger

Sep 27, 2012, 12:43 AM
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"If I'd observed all the rules, I'd never have got anywhere..."

Marilyn Monroe

On a stranger and happier note, the NFL settled it's dispute with the refs and the REAL refs start tomorrow on Thursday Night Football. Oh, yeah. Cool

For you Seattle fans, here is the guy who called the phony touchdown and handed us a free game. I just love it that all throughout the lockout and controversial calls that it was SEATTLE that benefited LAST before it ended. ('It' being 'The Replacements')

Here's the guy Seattle should name a street after, or at least present later at a game, LOL:

Quote:
'...Lance Easley, side judge: It was Easley who gave the touchdown signal on Monday’s final play, and his call stood through the immediate chaos after, as well as following a replay review. According to the Santa Maria Times, Easley normally officiates “high school and (junior college) games” (both football and basketball) in California’s Central Coast area...'

Sometimes when the fix is in, it's okay if it's official. Right? Cool

"If I'd observed all the rules, I'd never have got anywhere..."

Marilyn Monroe
That's what the Pharisees said!

Too much inbreeding in those days.


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smokin99

Sep 27, 2012, 5:34 AM
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1) His biography over the date of the hijacking is very detailed. HE WAS IN ASIA. There are names, places, babies being born, a wife, a doctor who assisted in at least one of the deliveries with Sheridan present, and other things that seriously preclude he could be the guy. Sheridan also held several medium-profile jobs in and around the general area of SE Asia and wherever the hell that mud hut was located. Okay, Tibet.

lol..I know you think that some facts are irrelevant and others just get in the way sometimes, but, how about this... If you don't know, then just stick with I don't know.

According to the Homecoming article, the mud hut was at the base of Annapurna, which is in Nepal. Additionally, to quote Peterson from the Rohnert Park, CA meetup group... "...spent.... two and a half years in Pokhara, Nepal writing a protest novel of the Vietnam War. That's where my children were born. We lived in a mud house near the base of Annapurna."

lol... Don't take my word for it. Check for yourself. AngelicSmile


377  (F 666)

Sep 27, 2012, 5:54 AM
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If the FBI thought Peterson's Nepal alibi was airtight would they have subsequently insisted on a DNA sample? Nope. Peterson was ruled out on DNA. The FBI is very confident that they have a DBC DNA sample that can rule out suspects. If the DNA isn't really Coopers then all bets are off.

Peterson was certainly capable of making the NORJACK jump. He was an expert skydiver, ex Marine and former smoke jumper who had done night jumps, wilderness jumps and water jumps. He had a big grudge. He had worked at Boeing in tech documents. He was known for risky jumps (e.g. home made bat wing suit) that pushed the limits. Sailshaw is certain that Peterson is DBC. The FBI is just as certain that he isn't.

377


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