Oct 21, 2007, 8:26 PM
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Care to tell us if you have the remotest qualifications to offer this..."opinion?" Your posting history shows you to be doing a lot of trolling and ball-busting, but very little else. Actually - nothing else.
Oct 28, 2007, 1:48 PM
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Sorry to say, but the jumpmasters should'nt be jumpmasters. It all started in the door with the reserve side JM. Why the hell is he inside? I don't think he was tought exit position in the course. Atleast I hope the course has'nt gotten THAT SLACK. Those dudes shoulds hang there heads, I'd be interested in what the DZ mgr had to say about it. Bullshit JMing!
Nov 6, 2007, 8:25 PM
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It might not have been the best AFF job in the world. But everybody has bad AFF exits every now and then. The count is usually messed up by the student anyway. I'm not saying their flying was superb but evrybody has some squirrelly jumps. After the JM lost grips she did some killer atmonauti on her back though
I have some awesome video of a AFF1 deploying a reserve on his back at about 170 MPH at 10,000ft. I would post it but I dont want people to just bash instructors for things that can go wrong on any AFF jump. There were some mistakes made and they learned from them. The main mistake was letting a knuckle headed idiot go on a AFF jump. (I believe that Sometimes a students mentality should be assessed a little more closely. then determine if they are really prepared for the seriousness of the upcoming situation they are putting themselves in.)
AFF instructors are just people and people sometimes make mistakes. Ultimately they are just there to teach you. I beleive the students ground training and self preservation instincts are most important . As demonstrated by the student in the video. If the worse thing that happens is she has to pull high then so what. Apparently she was in a good frame of mind and her training was very adequate remember it is still skydiving and unless God is your instructor it will always be dangerous.
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Nov 7, 2007, 9:28 PM
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WOW when i first watched it i thought the student was in white/pink and was thinkin.....'what the hell is wrong with that last instructor, he spazzed out when they separated' haha ' and damn, that student can belly fly perfect' haha, now i got it
Nov 7, 2007, 9:41 PM
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I've watched the video several times - I really can't see any major faults on the JM's side ... besides losing the student :-) ... looks like the student is flying a strong de-arched body position and pushes both legs down underneath her
Maybe if this went out the door stable they could've kept it stable ... but it didn't ... and they didn't keep it stable
I don't think the guys did such a bad job - not every AFF jump will go smoothly - that is why you teach a student what to do when both I's are gone ... because that CAN happen
Nov 8, 2007, 7:25 AM
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I know the instructors should control the exit and,the student should never lose both guys but, it happens and will happen again some where. By the way the student had some great body position out the door eh. Not making excuses or anything but, wow!
Nov 14, 2007, 4:20 AM
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by the looks of the first JM's leg position, he was in no way trying to get to the student (after release that is)
I agree here. Lousy exits happen. One JM releasing while the other JM stabilizes happens. Failing to even try to get back to the student is unforgivable.
