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Zing  (D 6343)

Feb 10, 2007, 10:50 PM
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The Canon City photo looks more like a staff photo than an inmate mug shot. Any chance Duane had some kind of professional association with the prison other than as a guest of the government?


mattmais

Feb 11, 2007, 5:34 AM
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this is from a webside

http://www.supermegatopia.com/profiles/profiles.php?thisLink=ferretman.txt

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Ferret Man Real Name: Alexander Vayne
Occupation: Vigilante
Base of Operations: Unknown
Marital Status: Married

The first vigilante to come to Distopia, Ferret Man single-handedly reduced the crime rate forty percent in three bloody years. In gratitude the city chose not to bring him up on several hundred charges of murder and instead erected a statue in his honor in what is now Memorial Park. Early in his career he took on two sidekicks: Sable Lass, who disappeared thirty some years ago, and Mongoose Lad, who still fights crime in the city to this day, along with Ferret Man's grandson and inheritor of the legacy: Weasel Boy. Ferret Man himself has been unseen for the past three years.


pocbase  (B 2487)

Feb 11, 2007, 9:01 AM
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Hey man, that's a bit nasty; Don't read if you don't like.






itllclear  (D 6366)

Feb 14, 2007, 6:45 AM
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Para Gear near Chicago sells hardware.

Try their web site: http://paragear.com and see if any of the pictures of hardware look familiar.




Zing  (D 6343)

Feb 14, 2007, 6:33 PM
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There is a thing called a Koch fitting that was used on military style parachute risers. It attached the riser to the harness, was a machined metal fitting with ridges on the slide that activated the riser release.
The only thing missing is the chain, but I don't see why a Koch fitting couldn't be attached to a chain.
I don't have a picture of one, or access to one of those fittings anymore, but maybe someone here does.


itllclear  (D 6366)

Feb 14, 2007, 7:33 PM
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did you go through ALL the pages of hardware?

Look on the left side of the screen, click on hardware. There are 14 pages!

Here's the link to page 1 http://www.paragear.com/...group=34&level=1


JohnRich  (D License)

Feb 15, 2007, 10:32 AM
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I went to that site, but I didn't find anything.

UnimpressedThey were shiny - like new condition. So upon going to some of the sites I would say that they were high grade metal. One I believe was triangle shaped - I think, but my memory is dull on this. The other end was retangular. They were connected by what I call a chain - he may have connected these two items himself as reminders. He may have cut them off of the chute.One of these items had a slide that had ridges, but I don't remember which one - I do remember playing with the slide thing.

How about one of these?

1) Rocket Jet release
2) Koch fitting
3) Quick release box
Attachments: Fitting_RocketJet.jpg (34.2 KB)
  Fitting_Koch.jpg (35.9 KB)
  Fitting_QuickReleaseBox.jpg (50.4 KB)




IanHarrop  (C 1152)

Feb 16, 2007, 6:14 PM
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Here's apicture of a Rapide Link. The fat part slides up to the threaded part and then screws tight.

http://djassociates.thomasnet.com/...steel?&forward=1




Zing  (D 6343)

Feb 16, 2007, 10:13 PM
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Does anybody have the list of the types of rigs supplied to DB Cooper?

Name the rigs and/or types of gear, and pictures of the rigs are easy to locate.


Orange1  (B 2638)

Feb 17, 2007, 3:13 AM
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Does anybody have the list of the types of rigs supplied to DB Cooper?

Name the rigs and/or types of gear, and pictures of the rigs are easy to locate.

Most stories written for the general public wouldn't have that detail I guess. But if anyone can locate anyone who was at the parachute center specified below they might recall what was there?

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The parachute types specified by D.B. Cooper, according to author Gunther, were acquired from a sport parachute center in Issaquah, Washington-two standard emergency back-type and two chest-type auxiliary parachutes (the latter generally termed reserve chutes, for back-up emergency use if the main chute should malfunction when a sport parachutist was making a jump). The parachute center in Issaquah provided the two chest packs and Earl Cossey, a parachuting instructor at the Issaquah drop zone as well as an FAA Master Parachute Rigger, contacted at his nearby home, brought two back-type rigs from his parachute workshop there and delivered them to the parachute school. (The types and number of parachutes asked for by D.B. Cooper led to early speculation that the skyjacker might have freefall parachuting experience and that he might have an accomplice.)

from http://www.aero.com/...utes/9602/pc0296.htm


NickDG  (D 8904)

Feb 17, 2007, 7:30 AM
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Earl J. Cossey is still listed in the FAA database as a Private Pilot and Master Rigger (his seal symbol is HF9) and his last medical was in 1976. If he's still alive, or not, is another thing as the FAA is notoriously bad at keeping their records up to date. There's a rule saying they must be notified within 30-days of a certificate holder's death, but they have no power to enforce that on anyone, least of all the airman in question, as they're dead . . .

Jo, if you want his last known address PM me . . .

NickD Smile
BASE 194


JerryBaumchen  (D 1543)

Feb 17, 2007, 6:20 PM
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Earl Cossey is alive and well; now retired in the Seattle area.

He is an old friend and I will not supply any other info without his permission.

If he is in the phonebook for the Seattle area (he's in the burbs) then go for it.

Jerry


lekstrom10k  (D 3001)

Feb 19, 2007, 1:09 PM
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 It was said that one was a Para-Commander, in a B-4 style container. DBC didnt use that one He took a 28 ft Un modified round in an emergency container . He was said to repack it on the floor tied to seats for tension. They dont know where he got out and inched the speed up to where they were amazed the Air-Stair didnt crumble. They calculated the ground winds at night were 40 mph. To jump somewhere over the world and land by gravity.backing up at 39 oscilatting doesnt seem to good an idea. The original one was kind of neat then went to hell. I jumped into a party after that and we were greeted by the police as other hi-jackers. before we landed.


NickDG  (D 8904)

Feb 19, 2007, 2:01 PM
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I'd read they were both pilot's rigs, but your version brings up some interesting clues. I'm thinking your average paratrooper of the time wouldn't know how to pack so that could mean he was either a military rigger or an older/uncurrent sport jumper not familiar enough with the PC to repack it.

But, did he really need to repack at all, as asking for more than one rig raised the possibility of his taking one of the crewmembers with him and thus ruled out sabotaging the rigs. Maybe he was just overly paranoid or in his nervousness he zapped the rig open by mistake.

On the winds, well who really knows, what they were doing where and when he landed. And even if they were high a tree landing may have made the landing more survivable then less so. The fact they've never found the parachute, besides the fact it's an awful big search area, leads me to think he landed okay, got the rig out of the tree, and buried it.

The money the young boy found in the river mud was probably planted, to make it appear he didnt make it, and a smart thing to do in hindsight.

The FBI is/was approaching this all wrong. The denigrated the guy, as a lowdown criminal scumbag taking a wild ass chance, and mainly because he beat them. (And during a time when J. Edgar Hoover is prancing around his office in a tutu). Crazy When rather they should have thought, okay, he definitely knew what he was doing, so how did he do it?

Either way you've got to admit, of all the great mysteries of our time, this one is a doozy . . .

NickD Smile
BASE 194




airtwardo  (D License)

Feb 19, 2007, 5:28 PM
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The rigs provided to Cooper: Now that I have made contact with Cossey perhaps we will get ACCURATE information about what was sent and used.

I have heard and read many different versions of the types of chutes provided and the one used. Hopefully very soon we will know the actual facts regarding this.



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Please keep us all updated as to your progress Jo, we are perhaps 'almost' as curious as you are...and wish you success in the quest~!


1969912

Feb 20, 2007, 8:38 PM
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In reply to:
I went to that site, but I didn't find anything.

UnimpressedThey were shiny - like new condition. So upon going to some of the sites I would say that they were high grade metal. One I believe was triangle shaped - I think, but my memory is dull on this. The other end was retangular. They were connected by what I call a chain - he may have connected these two items himself as reminders. He may have cut them off of the chute.One of these items had a slide that had ridges, but I don't remember which one - I do remember playing with the slide thing.




"triangle shaped"

Could it be a Capewell?

http://www.paragear.com/...e.asp?group=246#H367

A couple diferent syles are shown on that page. And didn't some have a short loop of ~1/8" aircraft cable that may be the "chain"?


(This post was edited by 1969912 on Feb 20, 2007, 8:42 PM)




CReW  (D License)

Feb 20, 2007, 11:26 PM
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<<They might have to admit that an OLD woman actually did their job>>

I think the "OLD woman" IS D B Cooper.




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