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superman0710  (A 48967)

Mar 18, 2005, 10:52 AM
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period.

it's unfair to have a troll post something that they know will start a flame war and have only the people doing the flaming banned.


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Premier skymama  (D 26699)
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Mar 18, 2005, 11:26 AM
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Re: [superman0710] trolls should be handed out the same punishment as those who flame them. [In reply to] Quote | Reply

No one makes you reply to them. Period.

superman0710  (A 48967)

Mar 18, 2005, 11:39 AM
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no one forces these asshats to post. but either way we end up reading it. it's just silly to allow blatant mindless material that will definitely be upsetting to be posted and then get mad when someone replies aggresively.

stop the trollers, stop the personal attacks.

not so hard to understand.


(This post was edited by superman0710 on Mar 18, 2005, 11:43 AM)

Vallerina  (C License)

Mar 18, 2005, 11:42 AM
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Re: [superman0710] trolls should be handed out the same punishment as those who flame them. [In reply to] Quote | Reply

You really need to put things in perspective.....

In regards to your sig line, Remster is one of the most laid back people that I know. Just because you're out of line doesn't mean that he is.

superman0710  (A 48967)

Mar 18, 2005, 11:44 AM
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Re: [Vallerina] trolls should be handed out the same punishment as those who flame them. [In reply to] Quote | Reply

i'm not even gonna begin to pursue this issue. becuase apparently, we're not allowed to talk about things here. that gets you banned. just like discussing an incident gets me banned from BF.


he may be laid back, but his logic sucks.

eeneR  (C 34303)

Mar 18, 2005, 11:47 AM
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Re: [superman0710] trolls should be handed out the same punishment as those who flame them. [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Hrrm...well seeing his logic is run by the rules on this forum...I think you need to talk to the big man with the Red Hot Fork... Wink

And I cant guarentee there is more then just one thing that got you banned Wink


(This post was edited by eeneR on Mar 18, 2005, 11:48 AM)

christelsabine  (D 10828)

Mar 18, 2005, 11:48 AM
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Re: [superman0710] trolls should be handed out the same punishment as those who flame them. [In reply to] Quote | Reply

 
he may be laid back, but his logic sucks.
And where is any logic in your silly sigline? Crazy
How stylish.
Unimpressed

Crazy

superman0710  (A 48967)

Mar 18, 2005, 11:51 AM
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Re: [eeneR] trolls should be handed out the same punishment as those who flame them. [In reply to] Quote | Reply

really?

it is?

where in the BF thread does it state that we can't discuss what happened in the other thread?

he justified the banning by saying that i carried over the personal attack to the bonfire forum.

really? i don't recall threatening that individual again. funny thing is i wasn't upset about being banned from SC. it was deserved ACCORDING TO THE RULES

the bonfire banning was arbitrary, almost nazilike Smile


and IF he does play by the rules. you should be on your ass with a ban too.


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Never said we didnt plan on putting you under when we took your fingers off from the knuckle

technically (as trivial as it may seem) that IS a personal attack.


(This post was edited by superman0710 on Mar 18, 2005, 11:52 AM)

eeneR  (C 34303)

Mar 18, 2005, 12:03 PM
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Never said we didnt plan on putting you under when we took your fingers off from the knuckle

Funny thing, that isnt a personal attack....I was just clarifying an earlier statement where i asked if you wanted to have your fingers cut off....I didnt say we were going to actually do it...Just clarified if you wanted it, we would have put ya under.

Now enough of this crap, you have been here a month...not even. You have start fights all over the place. You dont just march into somewhere and run your mouth much less attack a mod. It will get you nowhere.

Having said that...there is one common theme here..."this aint no damn democracy" If you dont like it leave. There is a huge difference between heated debate and personal attacks...you have crossed that line.

Premier Remster  (C License)

Mar 18, 2005, 12:36 PM
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i don't recall threatening that individual again


Dude... read the rules 1st and foremost. A personal attack is not limited to a death threat. Calling someone from dz a asshat is a personal attack.

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Never said we didnt plan on putting you under when we took your fingers off from the knuckle

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technically (as trivial as it may seem) that IS a personal attack.

Technically, this is continuing a discussion about how "you" (which was and still is a way of asking rethorical questions) would like if if you got your fingers removed, involving aneastesia. I personally would prefer if I was under myself.


Remember, this is a just freaking website. Crazy


PS: nice sigline man... Laugh Thats bound to be popular! lmao

Premier skybytch  (D License)

Mar 18, 2005, 1:11 PM
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Re: [superman0710] trolls should be handed out the same punishment as those who flame them. [In reply to] Quote | Reply

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no one forces these asshats to post. but either way we end up reading it

No one forces anyone to read anything.

Not so hard to understand...

superman0710  (A 48967)

Mar 18, 2005, 2:23 PM
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Re: [skybytch] trolls should be handed out the same punishment as those who flame them. [In reply to] Quote | Reply

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no one forces these asshats to post. but either way we end up reading it

No one forces anyone to read anything.

Not so hard to understand...

right. let me put on my selective reading glasses. you know the one's that tell me "WARNING: mindless post up ahead, could cause upsetedness!!!"

yeah...let me go ahead and slip those on.


maybe i should read with a psychic next to me who will warn me of potentially upsetting posts up ahead....

genius.


(This post was edited by superman0710 on Mar 18, 2005, 2:35 PM)

superman0710  (A 48967)

Mar 18, 2005, 2:32 PM
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Re: [superman0710] trolls should be handed out the same punishment as those who flame them. [In reply to] Quote | Reply

now i've been banned from the incidents forum because of my sigline, omg i'm dying of laughter here.

now you can't complain about a person's modding style...it's a personal attack.


bwhahaahahahah.
did i miss the sensitivity training seminar?


(This post was edited by superman0710 on Mar 18, 2005, 2:32 PM)

eeneR  (C 34303)

Mar 18, 2005, 2:39 PM
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Any abuse directed at our volunteer moderation team in the forums or via private message, including defying the moderators to suspend or ban a member, may result in an immediate suspension or ban. "Gripe" threads about any action from a moderator including "Where did my post go?" posts will be removed. If you have questions about a moderator's action and they did not provide a reason for the intervention, please contact them via private message.

This is taken from Forum Rules

superman0710  (A 48967)

Mar 18, 2005, 2:42 PM
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Any abuse directed at our volunteer moderation team in the forums or via private message, including defying the moderators to suspend or ban a member, may result in an immediate suspension or ban. "Gripe" threads about any action from a moderator including "Where did my post go?" posts will be removed. If you have questions about a moderator's action and they did not provide a reason for the intervention, please contact them via private message.

This is taken from Forum Rules

i'm already banned, what the shit does this matter?

and if you're regarding to my sigline. it's not a gripe about any thread or post. i don't like remster's modding style, and i've made a sig to notify anyone who clicks of it. welcome to america, where we can critique the actions of others.
(as so many of you have done to me Wink )

edit:

allow me to further retort:

"Personal attacks and hate posts will not be tolerated in any forum. Personal attacks on another user are a great way to earn some time off, as is posting inflammatory material specifically to provoke a negative response from someone (aka trolling). If you are unclear about what a 'troll' is, a description can be found here."

funny because the guy who posted that comment is not banned...not even reprimanded....

i'm waiting for the next lame justification the mods will bring.


(This post was edited by superman0710 on Mar 18, 2005, 3:02 PM)

Premier skymama  (D 26699)
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Mar 18, 2005, 3:30 PM
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welcome to america, where we can critique the actions of others.

Hate to break it to you but the owner of the site isn't American. This ain't no damn democracy here.

superman0710  (A 48967)

Mar 18, 2005, 3:31 PM
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welcome to america, where we can critique the actions of others.

Hate to break it to you but the owner of the site isn't American. This ain't no damn democracy here.

as is posting inflammatory material specifically to provoke a negative response from someone (aka trolling).
as is posting inflammatory material specifically to provoke a negative response from someone (aka trolling).
as is posting inflammatory material specifically to provoke a negative response from someone (aka trolling).
as is posting inflammatory material specifically to provoke a negative response from someone (aka trolling).
as is posting inflammatory material specifically to provoke a negative response from someone (aka trolling).
as is posting inflammatory material specifically to provoke a negative response from someone (aka trolling).
as is posting inflammatory material specifically to provoke a negative response from someone (aka trolling).
as is posting inflammatory material specifically to provoke a negative response from someone (aka trolling).


funny because you're taking a lot of liberty in disobeying your own rules.

superman0710  (A 48967)

Mar 18, 2005, 4:26 PM
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Re: [superman0710] trolls should be handed out the same punishment as those who flame them. [In reply to] Quote | Reply

now that i'm done emphasizing the fact that trolling is not enforced nearly as much as it should be. I'll stop my little show and revert back to my old posting self.

but mods beware. my father and brother are both agents for the government, my godfather a police officer retired. I've been surrounded by law enforcement my whole life, it's what I am. Patrol for trollers properly, because i WILL NOT tolerate anyone parading the death of 4 officers (or any death in the LE community) as something to be celebrated and will gladly take another banning to put any person that does in their place. (unless, of course, you intervene properly as you should, dictated by the forum rules).

that is all.

blue skies.


(This post was edited by superman0710 on Mar 18, 2005, 4:31 PM)

sunshine  (D License)

Mar 18, 2005, 4:44 PM
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You related to spectre230?

Premier skybytch  (D License)

Mar 18, 2005, 6:57 PM
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right. let me put on my selective reading glasses. you know the one's that tell me "WARNING: mindless post up ahead, could cause upsetedness!!!"

yeah...let me go ahead and slip those on.

If mindless posts bother you WTF were you doing in Bonfire? Crazy

Take a deep breath, step away from the keyboard and head to the dz. There's way more to life than getting pissed off at some words on a website.

AggieDave  (D License)

Mar 18, 2005, 8:12 PM
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Re: [superman0710] trolls should be handed out the same punishment as those who flame them. [In reply to] Quote | Reply

Guess what guy?

You're not the first person to get on this site and go batshit posting stuff and rubbing people the wrong way. You're not the first way to say "hey, that's not fair...I have the right to free speech."

In every instance I've seen in the past 4 1/2 years the person either got pissed and left (or got banned) then missed out being apart of a really cool community or figured out that this is just a website and all of these people are also jumpers (mostly) and honestly interesting people...then they backed off a bit and became apart of the community.

Some of the most notorious posters in the past have realized this and changed their bad attitudes, then became apart of our fun community.

I'm not trying to tell you what to do or how to act, I'm just saying we've all seen this before and we'd love to keep you in our cool skydiving community, but if you continue down this road you'll end up getting banned for good.Unsure

Premier skymama  (D 26699)
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Mar 19, 2005, 5:14 AM
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Re: [superman0710] trolls should be handed out the same punishment as those who flame them. [In reply to] Quote | Reply

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but mods beware

Is that a threat?

mnealtx  (B 30496)

Mar 19, 2005, 6:01 AM
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now that i'm done emphasizing the fact that trolling is not enforced nearly as much as it should be. I'll stop my little show and revert back to my old posting self.

but mods beware. my father and brother are both agents for the government, my godfather a police officer retired. I've been surrounded by law enforcement my whole life, it's what I am. Patrol for trollers properly, because i WILL NOT tolerate anyone parading the death of 4 officers (or any death in the LE community) as something to be celebrated and will gladly take another banning to put any person that does in their place. (unless, of course, you intervene properly as you should, dictated by the forum rules).

that is all.

blue skies.

When you own the site, you can dictate whatever you want.... until then, I'd recommend *NOT* trying to threaten the mods, owner or other posters... goes over about like a turd in a punchbowl....

superman0710  (A 48967)

Mar 19, 2005, 6:43 AM
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but mods beware

Is that a threat?


yeah, that i'll take another banning to fix some jerk who thinks he can trivialize the death of officers and make it seem like some sort of victory for him.

unless you do your job and shut him up.


(This post was edited by superman0710 on Mar 19, 2005, 6:43 AM)

superman0710  (A 48967)

Mar 19, 2005, 6:45 AM
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When you own the site, you can dictate whatever you want.... until then, I'd recommend *NOT* trying to threaten the mods, owner or other posters... goes over about like a turd in a punchbowl....


so why bother having the suggestions forum? the mods are not cracking down on trolling like they should, that's what this thread was about. my point has been made, i have nothing further to say.

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Mar 19, 2005, 11:34 AM
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but mods beware

Is that a threat?


yeah, that i'll take another banning to fix some jerk who thinks he can trivialize the death of officers and make it seem like some sort of victory for him.

unless you do your job and shut him up.

I disabled your username. Don't threaten my mods. Period.


(This post was edited by sangiro on Mar 19, 2005, 11:35 AM)

mrgeek  (Student 3)

Mar 19, 2005, 3:23 PM
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but mods beware

Is that a threat?


yeah, that i'll take another banning to fix some jerk who thinks he can trivialize the death of officers and make it seem like some sort of victory for him.

unless you do your job and shut him up.

I disabled your username. Don't threaten my mods. Period.

he didn't threaten your mods, o' illiterate one.

he said that he'd gladly take another ban from the forum to tell a troll to shove it, unless the moderators shut the troll up first ( like they should be doing )

put on your reading glasses. way to ban someone who didn't deserve it.


(This post was edited by mrgeek on Mar 19, 2005, 3:47 PM)

mrgeek  (Student 3)

Mar 19, 2005, 3:32 PM
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the mods are not cracking down on trolling like they should.

amen.

Premier skymama  (D 26699)
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Mar 19, 2005, 3:51 PM
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he didn't threaten your mods, o' illiterate one.

Now you're personally attacking the man who supplies to you for FREE the chance to learn all about the sport so you can save your ass someday, you can find out where different dz's are, go to boogies that are placed on the Calendar, buy and sell gear, and join a community of great people so that you'll always have a friendly face to jump with wherever you go? You have a lot of nerve.

reincarnated

Mar 19, 2005, 3:55 PM
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he didn't threaten your mods, o' illiterate one.

Now you're personally attacking the man who supplies to you for FREE the chance to learn all about the sport so you can save your ass someday, you can find out where different dz's are, go to boogies that are placed on the Calendar, buy and sell gear, and join a community of great people so that you'll always have a friendly face to jump with wherever you go? You have a lot of nerve.

if a person has no legs and i tell them, "hey, you have no legs" it's not a personal attack, it's a fact.

sangiro can't read. period. i never threatened you in any post. i only stated that i would continue to reply to trollers in an unfavorable fashion if not moderator action was taken against them.

all he has done is give me a headache by disabling my user account because he's too inept to understand a simple statement.


nor will his hardheadedness ever admit that he misread the statement and went a little too far in banning the username.

IRONICALLY enough after he (superman0710) sent all the mods a written apology out of his own free will.


You did little to rectify the situation either, pushing with your little "is that a threat comment" (even after receiving the letter of apology)

so take the halo off your head becuase you're certainly not innocent.


(This post was edited by reincarnated on Mar 19, 2005, 4:01 PM)

Kris  (D 26033)

Mar 19, 2005, 4:14 PM
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Yeah....you're just asking for an IP block with all these different usernames.Unimpressed

DeNReN  (B 5642)

Mar 19, 2005, 5:23 PM
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Dude...step away from the keyboard.....you are only hurting yourself ... take a few days and think about your actions over the past 30 hours....no need to finish commiting DZ.com suicide and even worst home DZ suicide..step away...chill

AggieDave  (D License)

Mar 19, 2005, 5:29 PM
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Yeah....you're just asking for an IP block with all these different usernames.

I'm thinking he didn't read my post. It lays out exactly whats going on and that he's not the first to try this bullshit and he won't be the last. However, trying to be an asshole online doesn't accomplish anything but excluding a person from our really cool community.

That's too bad for him, since it is a really cool community and I know that personally I've learned a whole lot from simply asking questions to people on the site...nevermind the really cool frienships I've gained from being apart of DZ.com.

flyangel2

Mar 19, 2005, 10:33 PM
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I think he has multiple personality problems since he replies to his own post.

mrgeek

supperman0710

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Mar 20, 2005, 1:25 AM
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Dude...step away from the keyboard.....

What he said. You are going about this in the wrong way. I can assure you it only gets worse from here.

The odds are heavily stacked in my favor to simply wear you out and make it very hard for you to enjoy this site. I've disabled 4 more of your usenames. You have to go through that whole registration process again and for me it's a single click to close it down again. Every time you register again I get another piece of information about you in the form of an IP address, email, referring domain etc. These are all things I can block forcing you to continually have to look for ways around everything that has been shut down, and once you do, it's a single click for me to make you start over again.

The skydiving world is a small one and you are standing in front of what could arguably be the loudest microphone in that world. Don't burn your bridges. Be smart about this. There's still room for you to work with but you need to find a different way to reslove your issues. Smile


(This post was edited by sangiro on Mar 20, 2005, 1:30 AM)

Slappie  (A 123)

Mar 22, 2005, 7:03 AM
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Nice thread..

pash

Mar 22, 2005, 6:24 PM
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Nice thread..

That KILLED me!!


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