Jan 10, 2005, 7:26 AM
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FYI: Mirage has issued a service bulletin for the location of the AAD cutter. The service bulletin can be found on the company's web site. The direct link is http://www.miragesys.com/...erviceBulletins.aspx.
I've completed more than 25 of these mods on local gear. I can help if you have any questions. The Mirage rigs I will be packing at the PIA Mirage packing seminar will have the mod if you are interested it seeing first-hand.
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I can't seem to get the PDF's to open. Anyone else having this issue?
Jan 10, 2005, 8:28 AM
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Worked for me. The site uses cookies to track usage, are you allowing them to start a new cookie? That could be getting you.
wouldn't open for me for that reason. Sorry but cookies aren't allowed on here.
Can anyone post the pdf? Or send me a copy?
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I had to open the PDF's straight from Acrobat reader. That whole cookie thing is a general PITA.
Am I reading this right that the SB has to be done by a master rigger on any Mirage that uses a Cutter style AAD at its next repack (or 120 days since its last)? Thats a lot of Mirages that need this done if thats the case.
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Jan 10, 2005, 9:02 AM
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MIRAGE SYSTEMS, INC. PRODUCT SERVICE BULLETIN 12-04 December, 2004 SUBJECT: AAD CUTTER LOCATION CHANGE DESCRIPTION: The location of the AAD cutter assembly must be changed from below the #1 flap (below the reserve PC) to below the #3 flap (above the reserve PC). This reduces the cut length of the reserve closing loop and isolates it from the effects of poor field rigging, such as misplaced bulk, undercompressed or worn pilot chutes and overly long and/ or unlubricated loops. By reducing and standardizing loop cut length, reserve pack opening functionality and reliability in the case of AAD activation are improved. Only the functionality of optional AAD equipment is addressed here. Manually (ripcord) operated reserve pack opening functionality and reliability are NOT in question and are not affected by the cutter location change. BACKGROUND: Mirage Systems has always used the #1 flap cutter location on Mirage and RTS sport containers. This location is also used by many other manufacturers and was approved by Airtec, Gmbh, the manufacturer of the Cypres AAD. Following AAD activation, the free (cut) end of the closing loop is still held by the reserve ripcord and must weave its way through the separating top flaps as they are pushed up and apart by the deploying reserve pilot chute. One incident has been reported overseas in which 2 Mirage containers failed to immediately deploy their reserves on the same jump after Cypres activations. Both jumpers deployed their mains and landed safely without further incident. Although details of the incident were vague, Mirage Systems was able to inspect the team gear involved and to review their typical packing procedures. The results of that review, and of extensive in-house testing, were that although AAD activation was generally reliable when the Mirage is properly packed, and numerous saves have been reported, common rigging errors could possibly produce a situation where the loop cut length is too long to allow the loop to clear the closing flaps and the reserve container to open immediately. Mirage engineers, working in cooperation with Airtec engineers, determined that moving the cutter above the reserve PC, to flap #3, essentially eliminated the identified risks with only a minimal aesthetic cost. It was felt that this solution was simpler and more reliably effective than any other combination of rigger education and container modifications. AFFECTED SYSTEMS: All Mirage and RTS containers manufactured prior to December 2004 equipped with Cypres or other loop-cutting AADs. See Modification Procedure for instructions on identifying previously modified and/ or compliant systems. MODIFICATION PROCEDURE: See attached. QUALIFIED PERSONNEL: FAA Master Rigger or foreign equivalent. COMPLIANCE: Since the reserve container must be opened and sewn, a repack is indicated. Affected containers must be modified no later than the next repack, or 120 days from the last repack, whichever is earlier. Affected containers showing signs of loose rigging, such as being able to “tip” the reserve pilot chute from side to side, are more likely to experience activation problems, and should be addressed accordingly. AUTHORITY: Daniel Thompson, President, Mirage Systems
Jan 10, 2005, 9:57 AM
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Am I reading this right that the SB has to be done by a master rigger on any Mirage that uses a Cutter style AAD at its next repack (or 120 days since its last)? Thats a lot of Mirages that need this done if thats the case.
Jan 10, 2005, 11:12 AM
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There is a quick fix you know. Have the AAD removed.
Hmmm...yanno, my Cypres is about to be sent out for its 4-year here in the next few weeks. Does anyone know if I can go ahead and get my rig repacked since it won't have an AAD in it?
That way I can just jump it for a few months and then have the AAD put back in and do the SB at the same time.
Only the functionality of optional AAD equipment is addressed here. Manually (ripcord) operated reserve pack opening functionality and reliability are NOT in question and are not affected by the cutter location change.
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AFFECTED SYSTEMS: All Mirage and RTS containers manufactured prior to December 2004 equipped with Cypres or other loop-cutting AADs.
says yes you can.
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Jan 10, 2005, 12:47 PM
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I seriously doubt the rigger that repacked that Mirage your friend just bought fromme has had the mod. Any way to tell or should I just call the rigger?
GRRRRR!!!!! Mine is affected and I live in a state with no master riggers.
Bring the service bulletin to you rigger and make sure he has packed it correctly for the time being.
You can send your rig back to Mirage for the repair. Your dealer may being coming up with a game plan so contact them. Otherwise, contact Mirage. They are really great.
Jan 10, 2005, 4:22 PM
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Thank you. Very clean. However the #3 flap gets a lot of tension put on it IMO due to "loading" the bottom of the free bag. I hope this is best and assume it is as Mirage is a good company with sound practices.
To check if the service bulletin is completed, it is a visual inspection for the stitch pattern just under the right reserve flap, near the grommet. You will see the end of a rectangular stitch pattern on top of the bottom reserve flap running at a 45-degree angle toward the right bottom corner of the reserve container. If it's there, the mod is done.
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Jan 10, 2005, 7:02 PM
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Mike, when exactly in December was the bullitin released?
Also, I have'nt seen it mentioned yet but what is the fee that everyone is charging for this?
I don't think lots of people and riggers knew about this before you brought it up. Thanks for informing all of us of this.
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Jan 10, 2005, 8:48 PM
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It was just officially released this week...but Mirage has been sending out its new rigs with the new cutter location for about a month as well as modifing any rigs that came through the shop during that time period. In the meantime, the company was finalizing the official service bulletin for "rigs in the field."
Over the past month I was charging $10 for the mod. I'm still a little undecided on how I will proceed with charging for it. I think I will end up doing it for free for those getting other rigging work done at the loft (repack) and only charge the $10 if it's someone who only wants the mod done and nothing else. I know Mirage is doing the mod for free along with free return shipping, but you do have to pay for shipping there (or to one of its authorized service centers) plus any other rigging work completed.
Jan 10, 2005, 9:38 PM
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Any way to tell or should I just call the rigger?
Call your dealer or Mirage and have them check the serial number.
Documentation of each Mirage (serial number) modified is not being kept by the factory (according to recent conversations with the company). The only way to know for sure is a visual inspection (packed or unpacked). There is no request or requirement in the bulletin for master riggers to send a record of rigs modified to Mirage.
Jan 10, 2005, 9:52 PM
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Is Mirage doing anything to remind riggers to avoid the errors they mention that contributed?
Yes, there will be a Mirage packing seminar at the PIA conference this weekend. They also have a very clear owner's manual with closing tips as well as rigger specific articles on their new web site.
Jan 10, 2005, 10:40 PM
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What promped this change? Was there an incident or just rigs needing repair or what?
I believe this change was caused by a strange accident in Russia (Summer 2004, Malevsky Cup). One of the teams (Russian Evolution Pro) went low, dumped low, cypres worked but they did not have two-out. There were a lot of speculations about that accident. All those guys had rigs done by Mirage.
I remember very similiar problem with russian rig 'Element' (manufactured by ParaAvis). About a year ago ParaAvis posted bulleten requiring same changes...
Jan 10, 2005, 11:00 PM
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Call your dealer or Mirage and have them check the serial number.
Documentation of each Mirage (serial number) modified is not being kept by the factory (according to recent conversations with the company). The only way to know for sure is a visual inspection (packed or unpacked). There is no request or requirement in the bulletin for master riggers to send a record of rigs modified to Mirage.
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True. True. But a look at the serial number will indicate DOM for those of you with new rigs.
Jan 11, 2005, 6:22 AM
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Is the Mirage unusual in the old placement of the cutter? Is there something unusual about the Mirage's loop routing?
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No, there is nothing unusual about the Mirage, as its old Cyres installation resembles that in Vectors, etc. The cutter is sewn to the underside of a kicker plate, so that it lays immediately below the pilotchute.
The problem - as stated in Airtec's most-recent press release - is that as rigs get tighter, tolerances get tighter. A lot of things that used to be standard practice no longer work on tight rigs. For example, MA-1 pilot chutes, with wimpy - maybe 16 pound - springs used to work great in Wonderhogs. But now as reserve containers get tighter and tighter, with more stiffeners and tuck tabs, etc. 16 pounds is no longer strong enough to push all those stiffeners, etc. out of the way. Now the better manufacturers use springs with 30 or even 40 pounds of force. The other issue is that as rigs get tighter and tighter - because customers insist on buying the smallest possible container, but not the smallest reserve - they require more and more skill to close. Not all riggers can update their skills fast enough to match increasingly tighter containers, so they cheat by installing slightly longer closing loops. The longer the closing loop, the more uncut loop that has to be pushed out of the way after the Cypres cutter fires. The latest service bulletin reduces the amount of uncut Cypres loop by 2 grommets worth.
Jan 11, 2005, 7:24 AM
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No, there is nothing unusual about the Mirage, as its old Cyres installation resembles that in Vectors, etc.
I thought the vector put the cutter under flap one like this SB is dictating, at least the V3s. None the less, do you (riggers in general) believe this will become necessary for wings and icons also?
Jan 11, 2005, 9:32 AM
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Is there a risk that the new location of the cutter not having protection from the backpad, will be more susceptible to damage from external forces?
Thoughts?
As a non-rigger, I was thinking the same sort of thing as now the cutter and reserve PC are metal-on-metal with only a layer of material (top of the PC) in between.
Jan 11, 2005, 10:06 AM
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Nope. The cutter is fine in that or any other location. It's a whole lot stronger than the materials around it. It can cut through a reserve ripcord cable so there's no need to worry about how tough it is.
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Thanks, Mike - you da man!
I stuck it to the top and PM'd HH to see if he''l link to it from the Home Page.
Jan 11, 2005, 6:38 PM
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When do the riggers get written notification. My rigger has not rec'd anything to date, and I am do for a repack 2/25. I remember Javelin having the same problem or similar. Is this recomended or a recall that should be addressed asap???
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The location of the AAD cutter assembly must be changed from below the #1 flap (below the reserve PC) to below the #3 flap (above the reserve PC).
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AFFECTED SYSTEMS: All Mirage and RTS containers manufactured prior to December 2004 equipped with Cypres or other loop-cutting AADs. See Modification Procedure for instructions on identifying previously modified and/ or compliant systems.
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Affected containers must be modified no later than the next repack, or 120 days from the last repack, whichever is earlier. Affected containers showing signs of loose rigging, such as being able to “tip” the reserve pilot chute from side to side, are more likely to experience activation problems, and should be addressed accordingly.
Jan 11, 2005, 7:16 PM
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When do the riggers get written notification.
I received a copy of the Capewell SB from the FAA about 6 months after it came out. If a rigger waits to receive something, they'll be waiting a long time. Tell your rigger to go to Mirage's web page, or www.dropzone.com, or the PIA rigger's forum and download and print a copy.
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If you send the container directly to Mirage they will do the work for you at no charge. You will have to pay shipping of course. I spoke with the folks at Mirage yesterday, and was told that the system retro has to be done at the factory. The bulletin stated otherwise. I will call again today for clarification and let you know. B2 Okay I've spoken with Justin at Mirage and he will make a post to answer all the questions.
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Jan 14, 2005, 8:53 AM
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Over the past month I was charging $10 for the mod.
Make a template. Cut. Cut. Sew. Hot-glue. Sew again. Rethread.
Mirage says this takes 15-20 minutes. About how long is this taking the Master Riggers to do? Seems like it would take me longer. Of course, everything about rigging seems to take me longer
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I sent an email to Mirage and they stated they will do the work for free. Or you also have the option of sending them the container, AAD, Reserve and they will do the mod, repack you and return ship it to you for $60.
Depending on which master rigger you take it to, or ship it to this might be the best option.
Jan 15, 2005, 7:24 AM
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I am a little upset regarding handling of this SB. It has been issued without notice to dealers, owners, or riggers. I just packed a Mirage, and now I have to open it up for the mod. I am not a Master Rigger, so that means I will have to re-inspect and repack it after someone else handles it. Thanks for the extra work Mirage! I feel the mod is entirely unnecessary. If the rig is packed concientiously and properly, I don't see the issue. I will probably send my two personal G4s (both new 4/04) back to Mirage for the mod. Luckily I plan to go to FL in the next couple weeks and I'll just drop them off when I'm finished jumping. My CL length for my MX rigs with 113R reserves is 3.75". It is tight and at pull force of 20lbs. Can't get the rig much tighter.
"This was prompted by an incident overseas in which 2 Mirage containers failed to immediately deploy their reserves on the same jump after Cypres activations. Both jumpers deployed their mains and landed safely without further incident."
Does anyone know more details of this incident? Was this an emergency exit? Did both jumpers go low? Were they already deploying their mains when the cypres fired? I don't get it. -Dan
Jan 16, 2005, 5:07 PM
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I spoke with the folks at Mirage yesterday, and was told that the system retro has to be done at the factory. The bulletin stated otherwise.
At the PIA Symposium: I've spoken with Jeff and Justin. Justin still plans to make a clarifying post, but has been really busy here. However, the official Mirage position is that any Master Rigger or foreign equivalent, suitably equipped, can do the mod -- which is exactly what the PSB says.
Jan 17, 2005, 10:12 AM
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Anyone know of anyone in SE UK at the moment who can do this mod. My usual rigger is away for a month or so and I am already over 120 days since reserve pack job!
Jan 19, 2005, 2:48 PM
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Even though Mirage says that the Bulletin is mandatory and must be done, the FAA are the only ones that can force you to comply with the service bulletin. If they feel it is necessary, they will release an airworthiness directive, and all the riggers will receive notification. The problem is some riggers don't understand this and will require that you comply or they will not pack your reserve.
I'm an A&P/IA and its the same with aircraft. The manufactures release mandatory bulletins to attempt to relieve liability, but its up to the owners to decide if they want to comply.
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>The problem is some riggers don't understand this and will require >that you comply or they will not pack your reserve.
I believe most riggers understand this and STILL require you to comply with service bulletins. It is their ticket on the line, and if they do not require you to have the SB done, and you go in, they are the ones who have to deal with the lawsuits. "So, Mr. Rigger, is it true that on March 10th of this year, you did not implement a manufacturer-mandated repair to my client's rig, the lack of which led to his death?"
Jan 19, 2005, 3:00 PM
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So then your rig that you jump with has to have all the SB complied with, but the aircraft you jump out of does not?
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> So then your rig that you jump with has to have all the SB complied >with, but the aircraft you jump out of does not?
Neither one has to have all its SB's complied with 100% of the time (depending on the SB and what it affects.) BUT your rigger may refuse to pack your reserve unless you have a given SB, just as an A+P may do the same thing. It is their call.
The obvious solution to this problem is to do your own rigging and make your own calls on such matters.
Jan 19, 2005, 11:09 PM
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Also, I have'nt seen it mentioned yet but what is the fee that everyone is charging for this?
Just an update on this:
We (Chutingstar/Mirage) are doing the mod for free along with free return FedEx Express Saver shipping. The only thing you have to pay for is shipping to Chutingstar in Atlanta and any extra rigging work you want done (inspections/repacks, other maintenance, etc.). And you don't have to get any extra rigging work if you don't want it. In other words, if you would rather your local rigger inspect/repack it after the mod, that is fine. Or we can complete that for you here in the loft.
See our web site http://www.chutingstar.com for our mailing address. Send it to Chutingstar, Attn: Mirage PSB 12-04. Please include all of your contact info in case we have any issues with your rig.
Turnaround time is two business days...that is, it will be shipped out to you two days after we receive the rig.
If you have any questions, you can contact me at 1-800-877-7199.
Jan 20, 2005, 2:10 PM
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DZ's can do the same if they choose.
Having the right and choosing are different than having the FAA require you to do something. You can always find another rigger or dropzone that won't require you to comply with the SB. If the FAA says so you have to do it or not jump your rig.
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The problem is some riggers don't understand this and will require that you comply or they will not pack your reserve.
And that's their right. After all if you go in because you didn't perfoma an SB, the rigger will be investigated.
What is the difference between a rigger signing off your rig without a SB complied with and a A&P signing off your jump plane without a SB complied with? I can assure you that your drop zone aircraft doesn't have all the SB complied with. But it will hold 20 skydivers with rigs that have all the SB complied with.
Jan 20, 2005, 2:19 PM
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What is the difference between a rigger signing off your rig without a SB complied with and a A&P signing off your jump plane without a SB complied with?
No difference.
I do think that 1) If the rigger doesn't want to pack a rig that has a SB that applies to it, that is their option and 2) If there is an SB due the rigger should notify the owner that they either have the option of getting it done or the rigger won't pack it w/o the SB.
Jan 21, 2005, 9:52 AM
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This silly legal argument is a waste of time. The FAA stopped issuing Aorworthiness Directives affecting parachutes several years ago. The FAA still insists that parachutes be "maintained in accordance with manufadturers' instructions," so any time you ignore a Service Bulletin, you are ignoring an FAR .. not a healthy attitude.
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I am a little upset regarding handling of this SB. It has been issued without notice to dealers, owners, or riggers.
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Riggers were always supposed to be curious.
Now that the internet has changed the way we do business, the fastest way to get updates, Service Bulletins, etc. is to visit the Australian Parachute Federation's master list of SBs, etc. then follow the link to the manufacturer's websites.
If your rigger is not curious - and not updating his knowledge on a regular basis - fire him!
If I waited for Transport Canada to inform me of this SB, it would take 2 years!
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FAA just issued an AD on the Sunpath issue in November:
Jan 21, 2005, 10:28 AM
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maintained in accordance with manufadturers' instructions,"
That is for AAD's, if installed. I'll look up part 65 when I get home, but it has different wording.
The FAR means that when you peform maintenance, youhave to follow the manufacture's instruction for that maint. Like when you replace a propeller on a 172, you have to do it I/A/W the manufacturer's instructions. You can't ust torque the bolts to 5 in lbs and call it good.
The FAR doesn't say that you have to do SB's.
Here is the FAR:
§65.129 Performance standards. No certificated parachute rigger may -- (a) Pack, maintain, or alter any parachute unless he is rated for that type; (b) Pack a parachute that is not safe for emergency use; (c) Pack a parachute that has not been thoroughly dried and aired; (d) Alter a parachute in a manner that is not specifically authorized by the Administrator or the manufacturer; (e) Pack, maintain, or alter a parachute in any manner that deviates from procedures approved by the Administrator or the manufacturer of the parachute; or
So if the manufacturer says you have to use "E" thread to patch a canopy, then you have to use "E" thread to patch the canopy. SB's are not maintenance and are not mandatory.
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That isn't an Airworthiness Directive, it is a Special Airworthiness Advisory Bulletin and isn't mandatory. They send out one for the Capewell ripcords too and it specifically states the inspection is only recommended.
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Jan 24, 2005, 10:32 AM
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My friend just talked to mirage, he offered to drop it off at Mirage in Deland. They told him it'd be 2 weeks to get it back in hands. His other option would be to send it to chutingstar and have to pay shipping to get the rig there. His usual rigger is not a master rigger so he cant do the mod, pretty piss poor if you ask me. ...Seems like if you paid that kind of money for a container and offered to drop it off at their main place of business they take care of their customers a tad better than this.
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My friend just talked to mirage, he offered to drop it off at Mirage in Deland. They told him it'd be 2 weeks to get it back in hands. His other option would be to send it to chutingstar and have to pay shipping to get the rig there. His usual rigger is not a master rigger so he cant do the mod, pretty piss poor if you ask me. ...Seems like if you paid that kind of money for a container and offered to drop it off at their main place of business they take care of their customers a tad better than this.
A tad better than what? He can drop off his rig at the manufacturer and they will do the mod and ship it back to him.
Do you expect them (Mirage) to drop everything they are doing to everyone else's rig who has paid that kind of money also and do the mod immediately on your friends rig? If I had rig there getting worked on and then because someone showed up at their front door because they are in Florida and my stuff got put on hold, THEN I would be pissed.
Jan 27, 2005, 8:54 PM
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Hats off to you guy for doing it for free. I just finished my first one and it took 1.5 hrs. I'm sure I'll get quicker but it does take some time to do a nice job.
Jan 27, 2005, 9:41 PM
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Seems like if you paid that kind of money for a container and offered to drop it off at their main place of business they take care of their customers a tad better than this.
Let me point you in the direction of "Slack Valley". I hear they don't mind whining over there.....
Jan 30, 2005, 5:26 AM
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ahh very clever but no, actually I don't jump a mirage and they did man up in and take care of it quicker than the 2 weeks they quoted so i'll delete that last message.
Feb 11, 2005, 8:38 AM
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Hats off to you guy for doing it for free. I just finished my first one and it took 1.5 hrs. I'm sure I'll get quicker but it does take some time to do a nice job.
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Agreed! The first time Mirage update took me 90 minutes. The second took me 30 minutes. All the Mirages coming through my loft in 2005 will get the update for $30. Time spent debating ADs, SBs, SAIBs, etc. will be billed at $45 per hour.
Feb 11, 2005, 10:43 AM
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So, Mr. Rigger, is it true that on March 10th of this year, you did not implement a manufacturer-mandated repair to my client's rig, the lack of which led to his death?
What if we gave riggers a signed notarized waiver (assumption of risk) stating that we were informed of the SB and chose not to have it done?
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Feb 11, 2005, 10:57 AM
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So, Mr. A & P, is it true that on March 10th of this year, you did not implement a manufacturer-mandated repair to my client's airplane, the lack of which led to his death?"
Same thing for aircraft.
"Yes, the deceased, Mr. X, was aware of the SB and did not want to have it done to his aircraft. Since the FAA does not require it to be done, I returned the aircraft to service in accordance with the FAR's"
So, Mr. Rigger, is it true that on March 10th of this year, you did not implement a manufacturer-mandated repair to my client's rig, the lack of which led to his death?
What if we gave riggers a signed notarized waiver (assumption of risk) stating that we were informed of the SB and chose not to have it done?
While that may save him from suits (IANAL), the rigger can still have his ticket revoked or other penalty from the FAA.
Derek, aren't riggers required to follow equipment manufactures guidelines? Pack the reserve flaps in the order the manufacture states, ensure a cypres follows maintenance/battery cycles, etc?
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Feb 11, 2005, 1:27 PM
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Derek, aren't riggers required to follow equipment manufactures guidelines? Pack the reserve flaps in the order the manufacture states, ensure a cypres follows maintenance/battery cycles, etc?
MiragePSB1204.pdf
Mine is affected and I live in a state with no master riggers.
