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puddy  (D 904)

Oct 23, 2004, 10:01 AM
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Anyone ever jump W/ Doc Anognostus & his bunch @ Dickenson Tx. Sam's place 50 yds away , make 2 jumps and retreat to Sam's A/C for a couple? of beers and back to jumping and so on and so on.
Anybody know the wereabouts of Larry Morris? Clyde wallace? Lou Call? Larry Fojt? Bob Williams? Remember The late wild & crazy Carlos Wallace?
Great times! How did we survive it?


nitrochute  (D License)

Oct 23, 2004, 4:54 PM
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wasnt martha huddleston from there?


AggieDave  (D License)

Oct 23, 2004, 7:05 PM
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I believe Don "Doc" Stewart used to jump there. He jumps at Eagle Flight Skydiving now and is drjump here on DZ.com.


efs4ever  (D 7014)

Nov 1, 2004, 4:00 AM
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Larry Fojt jumps at Skydive Houston.
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wmw999  (D 6296)

Nov 2, 2004, 6:39 AM
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Yes, Don Stewart did jump there sometimes; so did I (but not a lot -- mostly just as a student). The strip is still there, too -- I drove by it earlier this year. Or at least it was in close enough to the same place to fool me.

I remember jumping there with some regularity until at least the very late 70's.

Wendy W.


INSANEDADDY  (D 27625)

Nov 2, 2004, 7:54 AM
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Where was the strip at Wendy?


wmw999  (D 6296)

Nov 2, 2004, 9:19 AM
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Going south on the Gulf Freeway, exit to the right at Vauthier road, turn right (don't remember if it's the first or second one -- I just did it by feel), the airport is on the right eventually.

Wendy W.


INSANEDADDY  (D 27625)

Nov 2, 2004, 9:24 AM
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I have seen the little skydiving symbol on an aviation map. I just never knew exactly where it was. What was it like back in the day? Is it a grass/paved runway? Is it still an operational airport?


puddy  (D 904)

Nov 2, 2004, 1:53 PM
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The Dz was @ 528 & 1-45 . The runway was just a grass strip that ran north & south paralleling I-45 and about 300 yds west of it. The end of the strip was @ the power lines on 528. Sometimes on take off you went over the power lines and sometimes you went under them! Ths place was not an air field by any streach of the imagination. It was nothing more than a cow pasture!


INSANEDADDY  (D 27625)

Nov 2, 2004, 2:25 PM
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I live in League City at 518 and 45 South. I never new there was a DZ at this location. (528 and 45 South) I guess it would have been right behind the big shopping center where Hooters is. This is not the same DZ that Wendy was talking about off Vauthier road down south in Dickinson is it? (Galveston Skydivers) Wendy can you confirm this?


puddy  (D 904)

Nov 3, 2004, 5:22 AM
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Sorry. Did I say 528? It was 518 and there is a big shopping center there now.


INSANEDADDY  (D 27625)

Nov 3, 2004, 5:28 AM
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Do you have any pics of the DZ?


puddy  (D 904)

Nov 3, 2004, 5:35 AM
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Yes I do. Give me a couple of days to dig them up and digitize them and I will post them.


INSANEDADDY  (D 27625)

Nov 3, 2004, 5:40 AM
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Very interesting. What time frame was this about? Late 70's? 80's? What kind of plane did you guys fly? I grew up in this area and never knew about this place. I spent most of my time out at the old Spaceland. Of course I was a wuffo back then.Cool


wmw999  (D 6296)

Nov 3, 2004, 5:42 AM
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I think maybe that Doc flew out of more than one place, then, because where I jumped out of Doc's 180 was definitely off Vauthier Rd. in 1975 and 1976. That was after Spaceland was in League City, though -- it might well be that Doc's place moved around too.

Wendy W.


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puddy  (D 904)

Nov 3, 2004, 5:55 AM
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This was from the early 60's . I moved up north in 68 and don't know how long Doc stayed there.


airtwardo  (D License)

Nov 3, 2004, 6:51 AM
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I've jumped at the airport there a bunch of times..
but recently..not "back in the day!" Wink


drjump  (D 2785)

Nov 3, 2004, 12:38 PM
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I started jumping with the Galveston Skydivers in Sept., 1969 with a little over 125 jumps. The DZ was located on the NW corner of FM 517 and I-45S in Dickenson, TX. Doc A. (D-114) had a Cessna 190, which was down at the time and was renting a C-206. Sam's "motel" was the original roach motel! But the beer was cold. Doc died in July of 1993. Some more of the regulars each weekend were, Dave Boatman D890, Jessie Hall, Bob Vincent (Spiderman), The Bottrell brothers, Robert and Dave, Jack D-537 and Susie Joerns D-860.
Doc moved the DZ to Volks Field, Hitchcock, TX., between I-45 and Hwy 6 in the summer of 1974. I was in one of the first 10 man stars, at the old field, in Oct. 1972 when Boatman would bring a Twin Otter home from work on the weekend. Pick up jumpers at the airport in Clear Lake City and drop them into Dickenson. Shortly after that Dave opened the original "Spaceland" Dz. Later that airport changed names to Houston Gulf.
Talk about wild parties on Saturday night!!!!!
Don Stewart D-2785


puddy  (D 904)

Nov 4, 2004, 4:12 PM
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Don: I left in'68 so I just missed you. The Bottrel brothers were there when i was and Boatman occassionaly. Doc had a 182 until Carlos Wallace got killed and I think got the 190 from his estate. Carlos brought the 190 out a couple of times a month when his little operation had no activity and it was like a cadillac compared to the 182.Yeah, Sam's Beer was cold! Was Larry Morris still there when you were? Any idea where he is if still around? He was older than dirt @ the time. Must have been 40!Pirate


puddy  (D 904)

Nov 4, 2004, 5:26 PM
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Don: You seem to be up to date on Doc ( Gus). How long did Stevie die before Doc? What did Doc die of?
If he died in '95 he must of been about 78 years old. I remember his making 50 jumps in one day on his 50th birthday and that was about'66 or '67. Did he ever loose his love for the ladies? What a guy!!
If a bunch of us got plowed at Sam's he and Stevie would load us up in that red van, take us to their house and put us to bed. When we got up in the morning, we got breakfast and a large glass of warmed red greek wine. A couple of those and you were ready for sunday jumping.


drjump  (D 2785)

Nov 5, 2004, 5:57 AM
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Doc woke up one morning with a cold Stevie beside him! She passed during the night. Several years before he died of cancer. He was buried in Hitchcock just north of the city on Hwy 6. Complete with a demo jump into the cemetery.


drjump  (D 2785)

Nov 5, 2004, 5:59 AM
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I don't remember Larry Morris.


patworks  (D 1813)

Jan 9, 2006, 8:42 PM
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Yo!
Yep! I made several many leabs w/ Doc Agnosits. He was my JM on #2. Carlos Wallace was my friend, too. He was 'safe' skydiving. 800' was minimum opening. In bars, CG was way crazy. Lotsa guns, then.

Galveston Skydivers had the COOLEST patch ever!

BTW, Gus and George Sage stole Ed Fitch's body and burried it at sea. (Ed helped).


patworks  (D 1813)

Jan 9, 2006, 8:46 PM
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I waz there. What ever happened to Tiger?

Remember when Doc got 'spayed' by Ed on their dining room table? Didn't work. Tiger says.

Doc jumped w/ the 502 into Anzione Sp/ Italy. Hence the Wing-skull patch & Black gear.


phossil  (C 9278)

Jan 11, 2006, 3:03 PM
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Hi all, I posted the following in the “Patches from the day” thread but never got a reply, looks like I got my answer here, thanks.

<< I was watching History Channels presentation of “Brothers In Arms” about the 2/502PIR 101ABN and noticed that the insignia of that unit looks almost exactly like the patch the Galveston Skydivers used to wear at Docs old DZ in Dickinson, TX in the early '70s.. It was a round patch with a parachute in the background and a skull with bat like wings. I know that Doc was a veteran of the 101st with 2 combat jumps but he never mentioned the unit.

Does anyone out there know if Doc was in the 2/502 and did the insignia of the old Galveston Skydivers indeed derive from the 2/502 insignia? Does anyone have a picture of the patch? Mine disappeared about 20 years ago.

I used to jump at his DZ in Dickinson before moving over to Spaceland in League City, TX then to the Bear Creek Skydivers in Wieser, TX and finally back down to his new place at Volk field in Hitchcock, TX

BTW – It's neat to see that there are so many old timers still out there, some of whom I remember from my days in the sport. Although I haven't made a jump since 1976, I may try to get back in, who knows? Titusville, FL has a great DZ! >>

Hi Don, you were the one that shortlined the Mk1 PC in my avatar, Look familiar?

Has anyone heard from Joe Stone or Chuck Bowles?Cool


drjump  (D 2785)

Jan 12, 2006, 6:04 AM
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Hi Pat--I can't answer your question about the origin of the Galveston Skydiver's patch, but I'll give Jack Joerns a call for some info. Last I heard (years ago) Joe Stone was selling metal buildings in OK.
I've got one of those old patches sewn on my gear bag and am asked about it all the time. Short lined PCs!!!!!!! Oh what fond memories.--Don Stewart D-2785


phossil  (C 9278)

Jan 12, 2006, 7:41 AM
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Hi Don, with a little more research on the web I found the 502 PIR history web site. If you go there you can find a picture of Sgt. Constantine B. (Gus) Anagnostis and possibly his brother(?) SSgt Demetrius Anagnostis both of Co E, 2nd Battalion, 502 PIR. It also states that he received a battlefield commission to 2nd Lt. There is a picture of the original 502 PIR (Widowmaker) insignia so compare this to the Galveston Skydivers patch on your bag and I think we have our answer.

One time when I was visiting Doc at his home in Hitchcock, after Stevie had died, his lady friend Edith, brought out a set of military jump wings she had had custom made as a birthday present for him. They were sterling silver and had two diamonds in place of the bronze stars normally used to represent combat jumps, very nice. At that time Doc told me he had made the D-Day jump at Normandy, the Operation Market-Garden jump at Eindhoven in Holland, and fought in the Battle of the Bulge at Bastogne in Belgium. Doc Anagnostis was, without a doubt, one of the “Band of Brothers”, a genuine American hero. I consider myself honored to have known him.

If anyone is interested, here is the link:

http://www.ww2-airborne.us/units/502/502.html

Good to hear from you Don and take care -- Pat


markd_nscr986  (C 11969)

Jan 12, 2006, 9:03 AM
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Talk about wild parties on Saturday night!!!!!


I didnt make any of those.......but just down the road from you we were doing sunset loads into the "Branding Iron"Cool......setting off expired JATO's from Jess' twin beechCrazy and taking turns at the Browning machine gun shooting the empty tequila bottles on the runwayCrazyBlush........but compared to some of the goings on at Valley Mills(cattle rustlingCrazy) and Cleveland,I guess we were pretty tame by comparisonAngelicTongue

Doc,

I think I know you from somewhere...........


phossil  (C 9278)

Jan 12, 2006, 9:31 AM
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In response to original post on this thread, yes I did jump at Doc's DZ in Dickinson and yes, I remember Sam's Place. My first jump there was on 08/26/72. It was #23, a DRCP on a 28' 7TU from Doc's C-180 and was signed off by some guy named Don Stewart - D2785.Shocked

Although I was never one of the “heavyweight” jumpers, I still have great memories of all the neat people I met and of course, all the “high energy” action! Or could it be I was 32 instead of 62 years old? Nahh!


JohnRich  (D License)

Jan 12, 2006, 11:52 AM
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Doc Anagnostis

I didn't start jumping Spaceland until 1990, but made a few with Doc.

I remember a photo on the wall of Doc, flanked by two DC-3's in the background. The title was: "Three tough old birds".


drjump  (D 2785)

Jan 12, 2006, 1:01 PM
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John--Iv'e got the photo you spoke of. Edith gave it to me years ago. It looks like it was taken at the old Spaceland airport, and was signed by all of Doc's old jumping friends--Dave Boatman, Roger Pickens, Mike Bate, .. D330, Mike Smith, Laird Cogburn, Mike Turroff, J. Wilkens, Jack Joerns, Bob Cockran, Diane Stenson, Chuck Stenson, Jack A ..D-8539, Frank Wilson, Ron Mills, Lindsey Carlton, Jim Parker, John Hill and a couple of others.---Don Stewart D-2785




bob


drjump  (D 2785)

Jan 12, 2006, 1:08 PM
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Mark--Carl Maroon and I used to run Houston Parachute Service in La Porte, Tx. We started a student DZn in Cleveland with a C-172. Shortly there after Hall brought his DC3 in from Millican and A&M. Ever have any of those wild mushrooms from the woods in Cleveland? Don Stewart Nscr 677


wmw999  (D 6296)

Jan 12, 2006, 1:50 PM
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I'd be thrilled if you could scan that picture in....

Wendy


JohnRich  (D License)

Jan 12, 2006, 3:49 PM
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John--Iv'e got the photo you spoke of. Edith gave it to me years ago. It looks like it was taken at the old Spaceland airport, and was signed by all of Doc's old jumping friends--Dave Boatman, Roger Pickens, Mike Bate, .. D330, Mike Smith, Laird Cogburn, Mike Turroff, J. Wilkens, Jack Joerns, Bob Cockran, Diane Stenson, Chuck Stenson, Jack A ..D-8539, Frank Wilson, Ron Mills, Lindsey Carlton, Jim Parker, John Hill and a couple of others.

Hi Don. Gosh, I actually know almost all of those people.

- Roger Pickens died in a CRW accident around 1995.
- Mike Bate moved to Washington state.
- Mike Smith and Janice Wilkins, married, touring the country in an RV.
- Laird Cogburn: I don't see him much, but run into him at the NASA Ballunar jumps. He may be a Spaceland regular - I don't get down there much.
- Mike Turoff: gone inactive about a year ago.
- Chuck and Diane Stenson: gave up jumping in the late 90's.
- Ron Mills: now has about 8 or 9,000 jumps.
- Lindsey Carlton: don't know what the latest word is on him.
- Jim Parker: which one? Married to "CJ", or "Pecker"?
- John Hill: departed mid 90's for the northeast to marry a sweetheart.


markd_nscr986  (C 11969)

Jan 13, 2006, 6:53 AM
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Ever have any of those wild mushrooms from the woods in Cleveland?

Shocked


I dont know what you're talking aboutBlushAngelic

LaughLaugh

If you go here you might see some guys you recognize Wink
http://www.dropzone.com/...leries/markd_nscr986


patworks  (D 1813)

Jan 13, 2006, 8:45 PM
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Yes. Fact. Gus jumped with the 502.
One of his combat jumps was over Anzione (SP?). Much of the stick landed in the sea and died. Gus landed in the middle of a German Army encampment. Impressed the hell out of him and them, too. Me three.
Pat


drjump  (D 2785)

Mar 9, 2006, 7:41 AM
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Pat--Attached is the patch you spoke of--The one and only--Galveston Sky Divers.
Doc
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fastphil  (D 5801)

Sep 7, 2006, 6:55 PM
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The competetive edge was keen at Doc's DZ in those days. The "Hit and Chug" combined the disciplines of parachute accuracy and beer drinking, and always allowed the finest to rise to the top and be recognized...


drjump  (D 2785)

Sep 15, 2006, 3:06 PM
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YES, BUT A LOT OF COMPETITORS WERE DISQUALIFIED FOR "EXCESSIVE" DROOLING! STEVIE WAS A HARD JUDGE.


fastphil  (D 5801)

Sep 15, 2006, 5:37 PM
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Drooling???, sounds to me like they spilled beer...


kkeenan  (D 22164)

Sep 19, 2006, 11:19 AM
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Yeah, Doc was a real piece of work. I'm sure that was the only DZ where you could get a free chiropractic adjustment after a downwind landing in the peas. He would stretch you out on that old wooden bench and start cracking bones.

Here's my Galveston Skydivers patch.

Kevin
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drjump  (D 2785)

Sep 19, 2006, 2:28 PM
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Yeah, Doc was a real piece of work. I'm sure that was the only DZ where you could get a free chiropractic adjustment after a downwind landing in the peas. He would stretch you out on that old wooden bench and start cracking bones.

He sure would! In between sips of that greek wine that he drank, and a little crown for good measure! But, we earned those free adjustments, we were tying down the C-180, putting the door back on, picking up all the empty cans in the peas, etc., etc.
Gus was my mentor-he taught me how to adjust the spine and get sick people well. He told me to learn the book work from the college to get my license. There will never be another Doc "A". I miss the old fart, hell I'm an old fart now.


punishernyc

Sep 29, 2006, 12:03 PM
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 Just found this site today Doc Aangnostis is my uncle he came from alarge family 7brothers and two sisters.I only spent a small amount of time with him to my disappointment What i can say they were all strong extremely so in character mentalaly and physically .They grew up as farmers work and schoolwas all they did six days aweek.What they didnt have they improvised or did without .The stories they told as they were growing up always were inspiring .They all developed strength and endurance to meet what was expected of them by their parents along with vallues .
Now during WWII Gus and Jimmey (Demetrius)were in the same unit.Jimmy received the Purple heart and Silver Star and hewas just another Anagnostis all the same mold !


tresmoo  (A 49728)

Oct 31, 2006, 5:51 PM
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Did you ever meet a guy named Hop Harbeson by chance??? He mentioned to my boyfriend and I once on our way to Spaceland for our first tandems that he used to jump out at a place near 517.
and he has a patch from Galveston.


Jim_Hooper  (D 4019)

Jul 13, 2007, 8:55 AM
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Could any of the '60 and '70s Texas bunch have a look at my Try Again thread and give me the handles of the unnamed Valley Mills jumpers?
Hoop


drjump  (D 2785)

Jul 13, 2007, 2:27 PM
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Jim--That was 36 years ago!!!!!!!!!! Man, have people changed. I tried, but can't help you with names. But the drop zone (Valley Mills) was along the south side of TX Hwy 36, west of Waco.


drjump  (D 2785)

Jul 14, 2007, 6:13 AM
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Jim--That was 36 years ago!!!!!!!!!! Man, have people changed. I tried, but can't help you with names. But the drop zone (Valley Mills) was along the south side of TX Hwy 6, west of Waco.
Edited 7/14 to correct the highway #.


efs4ever  (D 7014)

Jul 15, 2007, 12:43 PM
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Anyone ever jump W/ Doc Anognostus & his bunch @ Dickenson Tx. Sam's place 50 yds away , make 2 jumps and retreat to Sam's A/C for a couple? of beers and back to jumping and so on and so on.
Anybody know the wereabouts of Larry Morris? Clyde wallace? Lou Call? Larry Fojt? Bob Williams? Remember The late wild & crazy Carlos Wallace?
Great times! How did we survive it?

What about Hugh Lundquist? He was flying or being my JM on some of my first ten jumps.

I uploaded these some time back, but here's a refresher


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fastphil  (D 5801)

Jan 9, 2009, 7:26 AM
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Here's a couple pics from one of Doc's "Hit and Chug" contests. Took a good all around skydive/beer drinker to win one of those. I didn't know Larry Fojt then, but we work at the same company these days. It's a small world.

I just happened to make my 1,000 th during the competition (second pic), so I got a suprize pie following my beer...
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drjump  (D 2785)

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SCOTT MEEKS WITH THE PIE AND DON STEWART, WITH THE BLACK HAT AND STOP WATCH. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THAT WAS A FAST WINNING TIME.


peytonlt1

Oct 13, 2009, 3:19 PM
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I began with the Galveston Skydivers in '64 before they move south to Sam's. Made over 250 jumps with them. Knew Doc and Stevie real well and their newborn son. Knew John Whitworth, the original jump master, Jack Joerns, Gary Jordan and many others over the next 3 years. Recently someone was wanting info on Joerns and his jump into the Andes. Anyone wanting info on him and his jump into the Peruvian jungles can contact me at peytonlt@sbcglobal.net Jack the most amazing man I knew and we were close way back.


drjump  (D 2785)

Oct 14, 2009, 9:05 AM
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Was that the Cut-an-Shoot dz north of Houston? Ed Fitch and Doc A. Sam's place was the original roach motel, but the beer was cold.


kkeenan  (D 22164)

Oct 23, 2009, 7:31 AM
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Hi Don.
This was a great old thread to re-read. My first jump course was from Jesse Hall at Doc's place in the Spring of '71. About 1/2 hour of instruction in the trailer and a bunch of PLFs from the platform, then out to the plane. I always loved that whichever way you took off from that strip, the first thing you flew over was a cemetary. Jesse's favorite joke was, "Ya know how many people are dead down there?..All of 'em!" And people think Fandango was fiction - Ha. I hadn't had a lot to drink before that, but hanging around with Jesse and the Bottrell bros. sure changed that. It seems like you were the most sane person on the DZ back then. I'm still grateful for the rigger training from you and Carl Maroon at the old loft near San Jac Jr. College.

Kevin K.
SCR-3022


drjump  (D 2785)

Oct 23, 2009, 1:54 PM
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Oh, how well I remember Houston Parachute Service in LaPorte, Tx. Many a static line student went thru the first jump ground school there. And on rainy w/e's we used to hold packing classes, poker games, empty beer can target practice. We never seemed to run out of targets. And there seemed like there was always a great looking gal, or two, hanging around.
I haven't done any 'crew' since Carl and I did it on opening with PC's. He never could track. I've got to get with you someday for a few lessons.


wmw999  (D 6296)

Oct 23, 2009, 2:07 PM
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Oh, how well I remember Houston Parachute Service in LaPorte, Tx.
SmileMe too. And fondly.

Wendy P.


SCS292  (No License)

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I got my SCR 1339 and SCS 292 at Doc's on 4-22-72. It was my 43rd jump. Spiderman got his SCR 1338 on the same jump so we had quite a party afterwards. The jumpers in order of entry were Tom Sanders, Sean Ferguson, Dave Boatman, David Bottrell, Robert Bottrell, Spiderman, John Mincher and me. We jumped from a C-182 and a C-180 flying in formation and jumped from 10,500. I was seventh out but John beat me in so I lucked out on the SCS.
Rick Johnson


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drjump  (D 2785)

Mar 28, 2012, 1:26 PM
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8 man round star out of two planes was hard to do! But that was the way to earn your SCR/S number. We were good hard fast flyers in those days! We all knew how to have fun with skydiving. I'm not taking anything away from today's jumper. But, they make it look like work. Seem to take falling out of an airplane seriousy!


SCS292  (No License)

Mar 30, 2012, 10:55 AM
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I'm not sure how round it was but we were all wrist to wrist, the only way an 8-man was done at the time. I guess we did hear of the odd snowflake but I never saw one made or even attempted.

Looking through my logbook I see that Pete Bandy did come back and jump some after his broken leg because I have some notes and a sign-off from some jumps with him at Doc's. One that came back to me as I was reading it was a C-180 load with Dave Boatman flying. The clouds really closed in below us and we spotted an intersection on I-45 or was it just US 75 back then. Dave said he was going back home and what did we want to do? We got out but the clouds were too thick to get any RW done so we just fell till we cleared the clouds and pulled. That is when I found out that rain drops really are pointed on top, ouch. Turns out the Hwy intersection was at Texas City but Steve Hazen's wife, Barbie was really good at finding jumpers off the reservation and by the time we got our chutes wound up she was there with my VW bus. My logbook says "Distance to target - 8 miles" I guess Boatman didn't have a sectional on board and couldn't get a VOR fix. In fact, the 180 may not have been equipped with any nav gear at all.


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drjump  (D 2785)

Mar 30, 2012, 11:33 AM
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Where did Boatman land, Doc's or the original Spaceland? It was I-45. Pete and I jumped into the Chiropractic colloge on Spencer Hwy. in Pasadena. I remember Steve Hazen, and Pete when they jumped with us at a little Cessna DZ in Angleton, TX. Pete is practicing Chiropractic in Austin these days. Still walks with a limp due to that mid-air with an oipening canopy in Valley Mills.


SCS292  (No License)

Mar 30, 2012, 11:47 AM
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Boatman was flying from Doc's that day. (edit - I do remember leaving from Spaceland and jumping into Dickinson one time when it was too muddy to leave from Doc's. Was it this jump? Not sure) I made 15 jumps in Angleton, including my first on 10/3/71. We may have known each other. I was a student of Steve's.

p.s. - check a post on the V-Mills thread about Pete


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drjump  (D 2785)

Mar 30, 2012, 1:01 PM
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 Justed checked my log book--4 jumps that day in Angleton on the last one I JM'd 2 S/L students.


SCS292  (No License)

Mar 30, 2012, 1:47 PM
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Was Angleton also called Rice U DZ? If so, I made my first jump there on 9-26-71 and my second and third at Angleton on 10-3-71. I feel sure I made my first jump there and Steve Hazen put me out on all 5 of my static line jumps. The last two SL w/ DRP were in V-Mills from the twin Beech as was my first free fall. A little different than climbing out on the step with the strut to hang on to.


drjump  (D 2785)

Mar 30, 2012, 1:54 PM
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You are correct- the Rice Univ. SPC. We had been jumping in Conroe but were asked to leave! It seems we had put a large cloth "X", with 30 legs, in the center of the airport for a student target. Airport management could not understand why his resturant buiness was declining over the last couple of weekends. None of the club members were pilots! Little did we know that an "x" ment that the airport was closed to air traffic. The man had no sense of humor.


OldTexan

Apr 1, 2012, 6:57 AM
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Hello Don....I've been wondering if you were alive and kicking. I'm back in La Porte after about 5 years in Tennessee. Whatever happened to Carl? Have you heard of anything from or about Mike Neidigh? What part of the country are you in now?
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drjump  (D 2785)

Apr 2, 2012, 4:34 AM
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Hi John--Good to hear from you after all these years! I'm practicing in Stephenville, Tx., and live in Dublin. Running a small Cessna DZ on the weekends. Carl died in Aug., 1986 from a brain tumor. Mike and Maxine retired from N.C. and moved to Ocala, Fl. last fall. Both are doing well.


SCS292  (No License)

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Didn't we have a pilot in '71 or '72 that just had one eye? He lost the other eye in Viet Nam when the canpoy of his jet was shot out and a piece of it went into his eye. He still managed to land the jet without the eye or a canopy. He was supposed to be the only commercial pilot with just one eye. I was only 21 at the time and kind of gullable but I always thought it was a real story.


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drjump  (D 2785)

Apr 10, 2012, 11:55 AM
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Tim Hinkle, I think.


SCS292  (No License)

Apr 10, 2012, 11:55 AM
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Was it Carl who would stand on the edge of pea gravel in Angleton with a white flag to show a student which way they should have their canopy pointed? Radio contact was way out of the question back then. Reading about these new fangled square things they jump now and all the problems with flying patterns (or not flying patterns) reminds me that we all pointed at the peas and if anybody got there it was a miracle. If we all had gotten there at the same time I guess we might have bumped into someone on our PLF. That 2 mph forward speed on the 28' 7TU made for lots of heel, ass and head landings in the coastal Texas breeze.


SCS292  (No License)

Apr 10, 2012, 11:59 AM
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That sounds right. I believe he was flying the 180 when I got my 8-man. I wish now I had gotten the 2 pilots to sign my log book when I had the other 7 guys sign. They had a big part in it too.


drjump  (D 2785)

Apr 10, 2012, 12:50 PM
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I rember a flight in Dickenson that Tim was flying. Doc A's C-195 had a run-a-way prop! Tim shut the engine off and dead sticked it into Spaceland, for the longer runway, instead of the short dirt strip at the DZ. Doc was made has hell! Chewed Tim out as only Doc could. Told Tim he should have trimmed the plane nose down, pointed towards the gulf and bailed out. Doc wanted to get rid of that 195. The following Sunday we put the tail in the bet of a pickup, hung a 10 day temporary license plate on the prop and towed her down I-45 to the DZ, with a police escort. A couple of weeks later some guy from NM took the wings off, loaded her on a trailer and she was gone to a new home.


SCS292  (No License)

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I was fooling around on Google Earth and found the old drop zone Doc operated and where I jumped in 1972. If you go to the intersection of FM 517 and Hwy 45 and then west a bit just past Dickinson Seafood Company (great place to eat too) you can click on the Imagery Date in the lower left hand corner of the satellite image and it will give you a slider in the top left of the image. Take it all the way back to 1969 and you can see the DZ with the pea gravel target to the west of the runway and the dirt parking area to the east. If you jump to the 1987 photo, the runway is gone but you can still see the pea gravel target. Go to todays view and most of it is covered up by development.


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drjump  (D 2785)

May 21, 2012, 7:38 AM
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Sad but true! Lots of great stories from that DZ. Good jumping, and great friends.


drjump  (D 2785)

May 21, 2012, 8:01 AM
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Galveston Sky Divers story: C-182 ran out of gas on jumprun. The pilot didn't think he could make it to the run way, behind Sam's, so he puts it in a field off of 1-45 north of the DZ behind a furniture store. We all load up, drive over there and push the pland out into the parking lot. Put 5 gallons of gas into the tanks and it starts right up. Dave Boatman had walked off of the parking lot into the field checking for obstacles, ditches, etc. As Dave was climbing into the plane I started to hand him the pilot's rig. He threw it on the ground saying I don't need the added weight and I won't get high enough to use it!
Dave does a great "short" field takeoff, goes over the power lines and I-45 pushes the nose over and lands on Doc A's strip! The engine quits again as he was taxiing to the gas pump. As Dave said All I need is enough gas to get over the freeway". Another plane saved to haul jumpers again.


SCS292  (No License)

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I've been having fun looking back at my logbook for the first time in a lot of years. Were any of you old timers, or as John Mincher more politely calls us "Pioneers of the sport", at Doc's on 3-12-'72? It was my first jump in Dickinson. Until then all my jumps had been at Angleton, V-Mills and a couple in Austin. We had a short spot with a 15 knt SE wind and I held as long as I could before I decided the pond north of the DZ was about to be in my future. I made a quick turn to the north, flew over the pond and a bunch of brush and made a hook turn onto a driveway that went to a little house north of the pond. It would have worked out OK but I didn't see the power lines going to the house along the south side of the drive. I went through the power lines and my PC collapsed on the wires causing them to cross and short out. I hit the driveway a little harder than planned and sprained my ankle (thank God for Frenchies). It was a good thing the wires just supplied the one house and were not any higher above the ground. The wires burned in half and fell in the brush starting a nice little fire. Fortunately my PC wasn't damaged by the wires or the fire but the power to Don Gay Pontiac and to the shopping center across I-45 was knocked out. My friends came and got me and we made a hasty retreat. The police came out to the DZ to find me after the fire was out but some quick thinking skydivers told them that it was some guy from California that nobody knew who was visiting and he was so embarrassed that the last time they saw him he was headed north on I-45 in a green Chevrolet. Thanks to whoever it was who put them off the scent!


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JerryBaumchen  (D 1543)

Jun 27, 2012, 10:42 AM
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Hi 292,

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some quick thinking skydivers told them that it was some guy from California that nobody knew who was visiting and he was so embarrassed that the last time they saw him he was headed north on I-45 in a green Chevrolet.

This is why ya gotta love skydivers.

Tongue

JerryBaumchen


drjump  (D 2785)

Jun 27, 2012, 10:58 AM
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My log book shows -1 s/l and 1 10sec FF student jumpmastered that day. Must not have been me because I spotted better than that!


lufkincy  (D 604)

Oct 11, 2012, 6:44 AM
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I helped pack for Gus that day. In fact, he used a couple of mine. It wasn't long before we started chain linking the lines and stuffing the canopy in the container. No problems other than my purple 7TU's canopy got a few line burns.


lufkincy  (D 604)

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Ed's wife told me that George carried Ed out on his shoulder, took him to the airport, loaded him into Ed's stunt plane after wraping weights around his waist, flew out into the Gulf, flipped the plane and let Ed fall out.


drjump  (D 2785)

Oct 11, 2012, 7:52 AM
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I think the burial plane was a C-206 with Dr. Ed's friends a bottle of wiskey. And, a chase plane for family.


lufkincy  (D 604)

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I made a number of jumps with Gus and then visited Sams. Carlos was killed by a restaurant owner after he tried to rob the restaurant. Fitch died of hepititus. His burial was rather unique. George Sage picked up Ed's body, put it in Ed's aerobatic plane after weighting it down with lead, then dumped the body in Galveston Bay. Ed's wife approved.

I made a lot of jumps with Carlos. We made a record when we were the first to make a baton pass when the jumpers were in different aircraft. He also got cut up on one jump when I opened below him and he came through my canopy. I had waved him away because I was going to pull at 2,000. Carlos preferred to pull between 500 and 1,000.


lufkincy  (D 604)

Jun 12, 2013, 1:55 PM
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Martha did jump there but I don't recall if that was her home DZ.


lufkincy  (D 604)

Jun 12, 2013, 2:40 PM
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I've got a couple of pix I found. One is one I took of Carlos exiting over the Houston Parachute Club's DZ. That DZ now lies under what is the Bush International Airport north of Houston. Our strip can be seen to the right and below Carlos' left arm.

The second pix is one of me with a couple of other HPC jumpers. I'm in the center. Don't recall the names of the other two.
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Pecker13

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I just found this forum by accident. Started readind about my old friend, Doc. I got to Texas from NY on new years day 1979, so I didn't jump with Doc in the "early days" as many talked about, here.
Galveston Skydivers was a nice little comfortable DZ, with minimal rules. Only jumped out of Doc's 180, at first, then he came over to me one day and asked why I didn't fly his airplane. The simple reply was, you didn't ask me. He knew I was a jump pilot, an I knew he had had a lot of trouble with people wrecking his planes, so I just waited. He trusted me and I never broke his plane. When I was flying in the hot summer, I would take a beer with me for refreshment, but the jumpers were not allowed to drink in the plane.
Doc was the greatest guy I ever knew, and the only real war hero I'd met. His attitude of never quitting, always set well with me. He drank that nasty old Ouzo liquor, but I never held it against him. It was obvious why he made it through WW2, with his ATTITUDE, and being a tough guy.
Always the Greek, but never made it to Greece. It makes me sad he missed it. It even took cancer three times to get him.
I'll always remember him.
Pecker


wmw999  (D 6296)

Jun 18, 2013, 5:15 AM
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SmileSmilePECKER!!!SmileSmile

Doc was one of a kind.

Wendy P.


drjump  (D 2785)

Jun 18, 2013, 7:24 AM
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I can't believe you called Ouzo nasty. Doc A was my mentor. A very good Chiropractor, wonderful man, good jumper, and a great pilot (when it came to flying jumpers). He had a little problem with cross country flying.


kkeenan  (D 22164)

Jun 20, 2013, 7:14 AM
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lufkincy wrote:
George Sage picked up Ed's body, put it in Ed's aerobatic plane after weighting it down with lead, then dumped the body in Galveston Bay. Ed's wife approved.

The way I heard it, Dr. Ed was weighted down with some cylinders from an airplane engine he was rebuilding.

Kevin K.


lufkincy  (D 604)

Jun 22, 2013, 5:36 PM
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[/:}The way I heard it, Dr. Ed was weighted down with some cylinders from an airplane engine he was rebuilding. [/:}

That's certainlly possible. But Ed's wife told me George used lead.

cy


patworks  (D 1813)

Jun 23, 2013, 2:57 PM
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Info on Ed Fitch burial at sea.....
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Pat, I sent the following message to Economy. My version differs from yours; I was repeating what Len Potts told me years ago. Different actors, same show.
Norm Heaton

----- Original Message -----
From: Norman Heaton
To: DrEco@aol.com
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: What happen to D-89 - Dr. Edward D. Fitch


Richard:
Dr. Fitch died in 1973 from hepatitis that he contacted from a patient. He was a thorastic (?) surgeon, one of the best known in the Southwest. He was also a director on three Houston area hospitals.
Before his death, while in the hospital, he called in his good friend George Sage and asked him as to how formal burials were made at sea (George was a Master Seaman in the Merchant Marine). George described how, in the old days, they wrapped the body in sail canvas, etc. and dumped the body in the sea.
Another close friend, Len Potts, flew down from his home in NJ, collaborated with Sage and with the cooperation of a doctor, "stole" Dr. Fitch's body from the hospital, took it to Fitch's airport, wrapped the body in canvas, placed it in Fitch's 206 and flew out over the Gulf. WIth George flying, Lenny opened a fifth of Jack Daniels, they toasted Fitch and eased the body out of the plane for his last freefall.
Upon returning to the airport I understand the FAA quizzed Lenny and George about the flight as radar had detected something being dropped from an airplane (probably thinking it was a drug operation). Nothing further came of the incident to my knowledge.
Though not an eye witness to the events described, this is Len Potts' rendition of what happened and I trust him without question. In fact, Len related this story to the USPA Board of Directors in 1973 in California just a few months after Fitch's passing.
Norman Heaton, D-565


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Hello Dr Eco,

We've not met but I've heard of you. In answer to your query, I'm sorry to tell you that Ed is dead and was buried at sea a long time ago. I'm certain folks at USPA know the exact date, I don't remember it. Here is what I do remember today. Doc Fitch had a long illness so it took awhile for him to pass. I think it was liver-hepatitis. Whatever, he knew it was going to be fatal. Doc Anacortes and G. Sage were Ed's very close jumper friends and visited with him in the hospital before the end to settle the details. Ed wanted to be buried at sea and signed his own body-release papers prior to the end to facilitate their plan. Upon his death, Gus and Geo. arrived at the hospital in Georges? station wagon and using that paperwork, checked Dr. Fitch's body out and carted him off. They put him in a U.S. Mail sack with some weights and drove the package to the airport that night. For a burial ship, they used Doc Anagostis' jump-Cessna. After loading Ed up, all three flew out over the Gulf with a bottle of bourbon. They split the bottle 3-ways. In a series of toasts, Gus and George drank their share and poured the rest on Ed and then rolled him out the door. It might have been Scotch. I forget.

Today, we know where Ed and Gus are. However I don't know what happened to George Sage. (I suspect he's gone, too. That was a long time ago). Anybody remember more/different details? Skippy Manino is still around. I don't know what happened to Gus' wife Stevie or their son, Tiger. Amazing people all.

We share the high privilege to having been their friends and jump mates.

Hoping that you are hale and healthy, land soft.

Pat Works


----- Original Message -----

Crazy Works,
It was bourbon. Jack Daniels I believe. I also believe I remember that Ed's wife was in a chase plane to witness the "service".

Is Doc Anagnostis dead? He ought to be I guess but I had not heard. Glad to hear Skippy is still with us. How about Rufus "the round weed roller" Ramsey, Riley Ticer, Richard Lee Borne, Gerald Hammer? Rascals all.

Was in Houston last week and found Hawkeye Hinkle. trh2111@aol.com. He is retired from airline piloting since 1999. Seems to be doing OK.

Don


drjump  (D 2785)

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Doc "A" D-114 died July 29, 1993.


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What was the name of the apartment complex off the Southwest Freeway at Renwick or Rampart where there was always a party and who had the apartment there? If there wasn't a skydiver party going on someone else would be having a party there and you just joined it. Also, there was a singles upscale apartment complex way, way out on Fondren just north of Westheimer that had a big pool and the first hot tubs I ever saw. We did underwater RW in the pool one night. I'm sure no alcohol or other substances were involved but we might have scared a few of the tight assed residents off. It was great fun. I think a skydiver lived there too.


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Nov 17, 2013, 4:23 PM
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Re: [SCS292] Galveston Skydivers [In reply to] Can't Post

Maybe the Martinique off the SW Freeway at Renwick?



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