Forums: Skydiving: Gear and Rigging: Re: [Deyan] Icon rigs grounded in Sweden Lifted (See Post #31): Edit Log


p.w.stockwell  (D 8496)

Dec 10, 2012, 12:55 PM

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Re: [Deyan] Icon rigs grounded in Sweden Lifted (See Post #31)

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The previous poster's assumption that Airtec have introduced the ability to set the hard deck so they can blame the jumper is a bit ridiculous. I think its more likely they know some containers take to long to deploy.

Why do you think that it's an assumption?
And I never said that Airtec wants to blame the jumper. What I said that they don't want to be sued when their unit did its job, but someone else's product failed....
For you might be a ridiculous reason, but Airtec had to spend money in the past to defend themselves in the court , so I guess they know better.

And of course they are aware of the problem with some containers. USPA is aware of the problem as well. Even the container manufacturers are aware of the problem with their rigs, but as long as the TSO is valid and people are buying the rigs, there's no reason for change.

Someone might argue that there's no problem at all since it happens once-twice per year over some million jumps all over the world and statistically they will be right. What about that?! Crazy

What you actually said was

"To get themselves off the hook in the courtroom when somebody hit the ground with the free-bag still in the container. They just want to give the responsibility to the jumper . That's all"

You very clearly say they want to give the responsibility to the jumper. You didn't say anything about being sued. Nor did you mention anyone Else's product failing.

I see now maybe what you meant is

"To get themselves of the hook in the courtroom when somebody hit the ground with the free bag in the container because the free-bag stayed in the container even though the AAD had fired at the set altitude."

Its just not what you said.

You are correct that the Manufacturers see no reason to change things. Unless you as customers start asking relevant question. If enough people ask and the answers get circulated people may start to choose equipment based on its performance and reliability. manufacturers would have to fall in line with those that can give the answers or loose their market position. But I am stating the obvious. Ask your container manufacturer what the Hard deck is for your container reserve combination. What is the drag factor for your Reserve pilot chute Etc.

As I said before I don't usually post on forums because its to easy to get suckered into these rather pointless misdirected debates. Use a bit more time tackling the manufacturers


(This post was edited by p.w.stockwell on Dec 10, 2012, 1:07 PM)


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