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RobertMBlevins

Oct 10, 2012, 11:04 PM

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Re: [georger] Geestman vs Blevins ...

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'Sometimes ordinary explanations are the truth?'

Sure. If he HAD any explanations. The crew thought the whole scene was bizarre. He just SITS THERE and says nothing. And he drove all the way down from Port Angeles. Both parties (History Channel and Geestman) already knew he had been caught in a few lies. And about the phone call to his sister. I always point to the only important thing that came out of his appearance: He says Kenny could be the hijacker. But he was WITH Kenny at the time of the hijacking. Why did he say that? If Kenny wasn't the hijacker, he would KNOW that...because he was WITH Kenny. It's a simple point, but I think it's important.

Georger says:

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I agree. It may be important.

"He says Kenny could be the hijacker. But he was
WITH Kenny at the time of the hijacking. Why did he
say that?"

Maybe he said that because it's true?

I see no contradiction. He's saying Kenny could have
been the hijacker, maybe referring to skills and KC's
background (or who knows what). Then he's saying:
'But I was with him' (so he isnt the hijacker)...'

WRONG. At the time Geestman was interviewed, he did not know that Helen Jones and her daughter placed Kenny and Geestman together over the week of the hijacking. And where did you see that Geestman admitted he was with Christiansen? He didn't, even when he was asked. Remember? ('I wasn't an accomplice to Kenny Peter Christiansen or anybody...') I'm currently checking on whether the cast specifically asked him if he was with KC the week of the crime. (See last paragraph for details)

In addition, the Revised Edition of Blast (with the chapter on Jones and her daughter) wasn't released until about three months post-filming. I spoke to Pete Berg about Jones' testimony on the day they were setting up to film Geestman. It was too late to get any of her testimony into the show, although looking back now, I should have insisted on it. But, the main crew was already ready to go at the Bonney Lake Library for my last segment, while a smaller crew over in Puyallup was already making arrangements for Geestman's interview later that day.

As far as the missing Foss Tugs logbook, it wasn't Margie Geestman who discovered it was missing. That was ME. She dragged out this box of logbooks, supposedly to show me how Bernie was double-dipping on payroll or something. I didn't see any evidence of that, although I am not a bookkeeper. What I DID notice was that the '71 log was gone. This seemed awfully coincidental since Bernie G had used Foss as an alibi for his whereabouts the year of the hijacking:

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'I was gone ten or eleven months out of the year with Foss...' (In 1971)


A senior exec at Foss Tugs has said this was not true.

Margie Geestman then volunteered that the logbook was probably taken by Bernie at the same time he took the other items. No, I didn't see a police report. I saw a front door that had been completely kicked off its hinges, and then sort-of repaired. There were now padlocks on that door, as well as one interior door...the one leading to a spare bedroom full of boxes of pics and documents. Maybe thirty boxes in total. She said the only thing missing after the break-in were several photo albums and a bunch of personal docs, some relating to ownership of the property. This happened within six weeks after Kenny died. (Remember: Geestman said on Decoded he visited Kenny while he was in the hospital and dying.) She had guns in plain sight. None were taken in the break-in, she said, and nothing else. She still had some photo albums, but now only had one picture of she and Kenny, which she had put into a special frame on the wall. (The one of Kenny and her standing together shortly before he died) Since the missing photo albums were mostly pics relating to Bernie somehow, it didn't take Margaret long to figure out who did the break-in. When I discovered the missing logbook, this only reinforced her belief that it was Bernie who broke into the house. My theory on it was that after Kenny died, Bernie drove up there in an attempt to take away anything he could find that linked he and Christiansen somehow, and he did a pretty good job on that. There may be a record with the FBI on this break-in. Margaret said that she spoke to a female FBI agent out of Spokane shortly after the break-in, and more than once. Not because of the missing logbook, (she didn't realize it was gone back then) but because of some missing property ownership papers. I have no other details on that.

I didn't 'lead' or 'coerce' the witnesses like some magical, hypnosis-driven, Svengali. Some gave important info before they even knew Kenny was a suspect in the hijacking. That allegation...that I led the witnesses somehow...is completely ridiculous. Don't you think I thought of that at the beginning? I went out of my way whenever possible to obtain info on Kenny and Geestman without tainting it by saying Kenny was a suspect. That would have been plain stupid. And these people were not the first people I've ever interviewed. Leading witnesses is dumb because then whatever you obtain from them in that manner is tainted and useless. So you don't DO that. You ask questions. You take notes and record the answers. Later, you check on those answers. And that's exactly what I did. On another side note, in her last interview, Margie Geestman admitted that Kenny could have been the hijacker, after months of denial. This makes her the SECOND person to say that, not counting the opinion-only of Bernie's sister. And she said that the day before Bernie said the same thing for Decoded.

It's possible that all the witnesses were either 'led' or they are all lying, and that I forged all the docs and pictures, and that they used a phony stand-in for Geestman on the show. It's also possible that when you see Mickey Mouse at Disneyland that it's the same Mickey Mouse you saw on Steamboat Willie. None of you have really been able to dispute the actual evidence against KC with any effectiveness. You like to pick on the occasional detail that has nothing to do with whether he was guilty (see: Scott reference) or just go after the messenger.

Georger says that if anything comes up that absolutely proves KC wasn't the hijacker, then the Decoded show and Blast were a big waste of time. True enough.

But it goes the OTHER way, too. I think that's a possibility some of you fear.

BTW: I am receiving responses now from the three cast members on Decoded about Bernie's interview, via Facebook messaging. I asked them to expand on what happened that day. When they give me permission to publish their responses, I will do so. Not here at Dropzone, but in a Newsvine article. It's more public that way.


(This post was edited by RobertMBlevins on Oct 11, 2012, 3:09 AM)


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